I've thought a lot about this and I think I know the solution.

Blizzard needs to implement a party queue, where there is some sort of match-making process where you end up as a group of 6 and then you queue.

It could be something like you see which of 3 maps it could be, or maybe gametype, and you get in a group of 6 without showing gamertags and everyone chooses the role you want to play. You can skip the lobby/people can vote you out/ something to juggle until you get a competent team comp. Maybe primary and secondary like Tank/Dps, and people can hover and see your time played like they can now. Make it semi anonymous and don't pretend it will be anonymous at all at the highest level but who cares.

If you choose a hero in lobby and then change when the game starts as a troll/thrower, that's trivial to detect and ban accordingly if people report you and there is history. Bans should be WAY more frequent and impactful.

The end result would be a team of 6 vs a team of 6 in every single game.

I think just lumping people into a game the way it is now is incredibly lazy and has resulted in a horrible experience. It needs more work and more sophistication.

well I'm glad I picked up on it because it's definitely a thing right now. People picking widow and the team chat instantly not going WTF BBQ ROFL OMG OMG SWITCH OFF PLZ is refreshing at least. People should play whatever the **** they want unless it's really, really obvious they suck at whatever they picked.

I think maybe she's meta because this is the worst tank meta this game has ever seen and she can counter hanzo pretty hard

brigitte is busted as all ****.

she just cannot die. her damage output is too high. her CC is ridiculous. she can 1v1 any hero in the game. she can function as all 3 roles at once.

She doesn't really do much damage. It's her stuns and self-healing that make her tough.

And she can't be all three roles. She's not a DPS and she's not a front-line tank. She's a support that can serve as an off-tank, but an off-tank that is better suited to be in the mid-back lines, rather than leading the charge.

her damage is ridiculous:

her flail does 35 dmg per .6 seconds. can strike multiple enemies.

70 damage whip. 50 damage shield bash.

2 flails + bash into whip does 190 damage. so the most of the cast is at 10 health in a little over 1.2 seconds.

plus the stun. PLUS THE STUN.

it's absurd. there's basically no reason to play a backline flanker if there's a brigitte. tanks are basically toast once they get stunned.

Problems are a) people don't know how to counter her (hint: shoot shield) and b) she counters some people particularly well and dps players are generally stubborn.

her shield is relatively small area wise, and shes quick as a character, so she can hide behind corners or other barriers if her shield gets low.

if it were shoottheshield 4head level easy, top 500 players wouldn't be getting facerolled. unless you think they overlooked that.

if she's even moderately healed, to take her down takes 250 health + 600 shield + 80 health passive every 6.5 seconds + say 50-200 other healing from a support + any armor she might have from her ult while she's displacing you with her M1, stunning you every 5 seconds, and using a knockback every 4 seconds.

and you have to yanno, land the shots and not miss. her hitbox isn't huge. while she's beating your face in and her team is similarly not standing there with their thumbs up their asses.

its ****ing hard. she's really busted.

Sounds like a job for Bastion!

Blizzard said they wanted ppl to be able to change picks and roles mid game, several times if need be, to counter so there is a close to 0 chance for a class queue system.

I haven't played in a long, long time. Thinking of switching to PC coming from PS4.

Definitely switch to pc from any console.

had a pretty gross long range quad kill the other night with widow. Actually have had a bunch of these lately but this was the only one I saved -



my flick is getting way better. If I go widow in games I usually win now. She's much better on attack for obvious reasons - picks are more devastating to a defending team. But on control maps and a few defense maps I can hang with her. I try to tilt the other team into spending all their time diving on me, which is usually what happens, then I just switch to some dva counter. been getting accused of aimbotting and smurfing a lot lately which makes me happy. I'm soooooo happy to be playing her again.

my scoped accuracy is sitting around 70-80% now and i regularly get 15+ crits a game. I'm out dpsing my soldier in most games now.

My rating is soooo low (sub 1k) now that I always get it will take a long time to find a proper match.

This is what happens when you play during law school finals and your heart isn't in it at all... and you suck to begin with, and you only play Hanzo.

might want to log in before june 11th just for the legendary loot box

Surprised there's no comment here yet. New patch is pretty legit. You can create a group and pick roles. You can then only pick heroes in the role that you chose. There are some downsides to this at times to be limited to your pre-selected comp.

Only played 3 games with the new grouping system (Gold player fwiw).

All 3 games good teamwork communication. I created the groups and had a blast. I think this is pretty good for the game!

I've only played Mystery Heroes, but even in that mode, people have been friendlier because of the rating system. And you can't even use that commendation mechanic in that mode.


And Symmetra looks like fun. I haven't played her yet, but I tested her out in training and throwing turrets is a blast.

You don't have to lock people into their roles when you make a group. You can have people queue up with what they want to play, but still have it as an honor system, so can flex around if needed.

HOLY ****. IT'S HAMMOND.

LFG system is super great and I'm so happy they implemented it.

This next season is going to be the best yet. Just need to tune down grav + dragons (Even tho I play tons of hanzo and zarya).

Now they won't know all I play is hanzo. Yes!

SO AWESOME

Just played with him on the PTR. He's wild. There are definitely going to be some maps he won't be good on, but I can see having a lot of fun swinging like a wrecking ball, beating the crap out of people.

Definitely wanting to give him a try. Calling him hammond rather than wrecking ball ainec.

Love that LFG system. New hero looks like tons of fun. Blizz really killing it.

Agree with the poster who said tune down gravdragon. Its literally the way so many fights in my matches r won nowadays. Not only does it make Hanzo/Zarya auto picks it also forces a Zen pick to have the only support ult to counter it.

this game has jumped the shark. too many characters that use stuns/knockbacks. zarya wombos every game. zzzzzZZZZZZzzzzz.

oh and hamsters.

bye.

I don't get why anyone has a problem with the Zarya/Hanzo ult combo. Zarya's ult doesn't charge that quickly. Both players have to coordinate well (if Hanzo is slow on the ult, it won't work) and by definition, two ults have to be used to get eliminations. The other team has to be bunched up for Zarya's ult to suck them all in, plus D-Va can eat it. Zen can save everyone. Moira and Reaper can phase out of the grav.


I mean, it's a normal combo. That's kind of the point of team-based shooters - to coordinate and use teamwork.