The thing is you cant carry low ranks with tank and support. If you're support and your dps is ass you lose. If youre tank and your healers are ass you lose.

I can win games as DPS with ****ty healers and tanks so I play DPS.

I've went through elo hell twice as a tank main. My win rates and hero rankings are way better on tanks. When i played tanks at silver ive carried countless games. I just run a mix of Rein,Winston, and Zarya and so many games i'll end up with 4 gold medals(not that it matters that much) and im the one making all the big plays such as kill mercy,sym tps, making big offensive engages and defensive disengages etc.

Put me on dps and im not anywhere near as useful. I'm sure their is people out there who are the same as me on support rather then tank. Maybe for the general population they can carry harder playing dps and the ceiling to carry on dps is higher. You still can easily carry low ranks on tanks as long as u switch for the situation. Now if my team doesnt have a support i always switch and try to get someone else to tank but my winrate isnt high when this happens.

Yeah, that's pretty much my problem. Not that I'm awesome or anything, but I enjoy playing support characters (mostly Zen and Lucio, but I'm cool with all of them) and feel like I generally have to rely on my team's DPS to win.

My biggest gripe as support is when nobody protects me and I just get demolished repeatedly on the back line. Not that I expect someone to babysit me, but I hate those games where nobody even bothers to try to keep their healers alive.

I need to get better/feel more confident at DPS to move up the ranks. I also need to figure out Reinhardt. He should be so easy to play, but I just stink with him. The one tank I can play well is Zarya.*

*EDIT: I got a nice compliment the other day from an opponent when I played Zarya. Oasis, the map with the pit in the middle that drops down to a health pack. It was overtime and we were protecting the point. A Reinhardt made a last gasp attempt to stall overtime by dropping down from the top left onto the point. I had my ult, so I shot graviton into the wall at his feet, just as he jumped, keeping him floating in mid-air and not letting him touch the point. I was kind of proud of that one.

team deathmatch is fun as hell lol.

i enjoy so much more than anything else lately.

comp mode is still comp mode, unbalanced and full of idiots who somehow dont know how to play after 6 or 7 ****ing seasons lol. i got my 2000 for gold then quit.

its fuccked how you pretty much have to play DPS to win. bad tank you can still win, bad heals you can still win, bad DPS you lose 100% of the time.

There's free play for Overwatch this weekend September 22-25.

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/21033393#play

New map is cool. The first section is surprisingly wide open for an OW map. The last section in the arena is really interesting too.

First time playing on Junkertown on the PTR, I was defending on the second point. I didn't know where to go and ended up in the spawn for the third point. (I didn't know it at the time, just thought it was weird there were two spawns). Surprisingly, it still acts as a spawn, so you can switch your character.

Does that happen in all the payload maps? I've never tried it on the other maps, because I know where to go and am trying to win.

new meta makes the game a lot more fun to play, but it makes mercy mandatory and whoever has the better mercy is at a pretty decent advantage

mixed feelings

think it'd be a little better if mercy's gun did more damage but her rez had a longer cooldown

I agree. Getting rid of the hide and res was huge for the level of fun, at least for the lower ranks. Mercy is undoubtedly stronger overall though, I think.

command rez is insane.

so much of overwatch is the first fight and how the first frag leads to a stagger/avalanche, so having mercy to snap rez the first death is just so exponentially more important than whatever the other healers can offer. i dont know how you balance it.

Saw a video of a Mercy exploit. On a point where the defender spawn is really close (in this case, Hanamura B), Mercy can rez a teammate, run back to spawn, swap to a different hero, swap back to Mercy, then rez again right away.

Obviously it's very situational, but if two teammates die at about the same time, you can have time to pull it off.

Works for D-va, also - if you get de-meched, you can swap out heroes in spawn and have your mech again. Downside is you lose your ult progress.

My reinhardt's getting much better. It's a really satisfying and badass feeling to spin around and block a junkrat tire.

uh you mean 1hit tire with firestrike imo

Since you now only get 5 seconds to rez a hero, this technique can't be used if they both die at the same time. Because getting back to spawn takes at least 5 seconds (if not more), even on the 2CP maps.

so i got sick of solo'ing into ELO hell (sr 2100ish from 3k peak) and made a new smurf and after grinding through QP and placements I started at ~3050 mostly playing zen.

the difference between 3k and 2k is such a breath of fresh air, i can use the mic and direct good comms and have a much better wr. sub 2500 nobody comms, and if they do its toxic, and theres never a good comp chosen.

really hoping i can hold onto my SR this go round, it's a lot more fun this way.

Heard a lot of complaining about Mercy, but as someone who never plays her, this new version makes the game more fun. She's actually part of the game, not sneaking on the sidelines.

I mostly play DVa and just tried out her rockets and they're a great addition. Makes her more interesting to play for sure.

The new D-va is definitely fun to play, but the thing I don't like is that she's not really a tank anymore.

The experience at low ranks is one of the worst I've ever seen in any game, ever.

i think its dumb af that my season 1 or 2 stats make me stuck at 1.9 and 2k forever.

like he said the games are pure aids at this level. it doesnt matter how good you are, maybe for a select few god tier players its possible to progress solo.

perhaps ill buy a new account its $20 off for a couple more days, even just to prove to myself that i know im not a silver player lol.

I dont get where people get these myths that you cant get through low ranks because your teammates suck in games like this. If you're a 2500 player playing at 2k you're eventually going to make it to 2.5k. Just like you can run hot and get over 2500 if your a 2500 player due to variance with really good teammates or bad enemy teams/getting lucky dcs on enemy etc. This is a poker forum we all should understand variance here.

I've twice now lowered my rating to like 1600 and got back. The first time i came out of placements at 2k played at gold my first season and the next season was in silver. I most likely was placed up my first season due to run good. I eventually got better and got up to like 2200 and went down and was stuck around 1800-2k for awhile. I didnt blame my teammates i just played the game and got better for tons of hours.

2nd time I then got bored of tank main after capping my rating around 2200 for awhile and not getting higher. I switched roles and lowered my rating playing almost all hanzo from 2200-to 1600ish. Then after hanzo main for awhile decided i want to get my rating as high as possible so switched back to tank main where im best. Went to 2750 and im now around 2600 where ive been for weeks.

I never duo que. I dont even play dps at all. I still have went through elo hell twice. If i play games much lower then my level im going to win a higher % because my skill level is higher then everyone else in the game. I'll have runs of variance of losing more then i should or winning but long term im gaining rating for sure.

Yup. I get the complaints on the overwatch forums, but not here.

Variance is a thing. You generally are where your skill dictates should you play enough games.

It likely does result in uneven swings for some players with the performance SR rather than straight +/- for winning, though. i.e. One tricking an off meta hero will juice your SR more than flexing and being a jack of all trades.

If you main tanks or support game is terrific. Playing dps is generally awful.

I've gone from 1590 low in like season 3 to 2435 high that I'm currently at. This season alone i placed just above 2000 and have done nothing but climb.

All solo queue, mostly playing tank. Just a hair under 80% WR on reinhardt specifically

Really clueless teammates can often create more variance/tilt (like really loose aggressive fish in poker), but in general, you'll be able to be very successful in those games in the long run.

I haven't played a ton of this game lately, but when I leveled a second account for season 4, I came out of placements at like 2300 or something, when my other account was ~3500. The players for me up until at least 3k were so bad relative to my skill level that I could/did carry on every hero I played until I got closer to my actual rank. I didn't win every game, but I won a lot of them, and still dominated in games that I lost when I was 1k sr below my actual rank.

Also, swings of 3-400 SR should probably be expected in this game with some frequency. I went from 3300->2900->3700 in a span of < 100 games in season 3 at some point. I don't even think I was tilting/playing super bad in those 400 points of loss, so much as seemingly every game, my team was just badly outmatched. It just happens.