moronchad, i guess the real question at hand is why does the girl in your avatar have a more toned back than i do?

yeah but i don't care about the slight range reduction, it really doesn't seem to have a negative effect ime...also ACR has my favorite iron sights in the game so i would never put a red dot/holo on it

i have 14 games where i had a k/d greater than 10 and i would say at least 10 of those games i was using a silenced ACR, it may not work for everyone but i it

what do you guys think about the silent sniper setup? I was messing around with it earlier and had a nice round on derail in TDM where I went something like 28-4 but a lot of those kills were from the harrier and pavelow that I had up at the same time.

something like silenced M21 w/ cold blooded and ninja, but i'm not sure on the blue perk. It seems like you might want scavenger because it takes a lot more shots to kill or maybe even bling w/ silencer and thermal, plus I like the akimbo .45's as my secondary on my sniper classes so i can also silence them.

any thoughts?

Check your steam options. When somebody messages me there is a little dinging noise that goes off while I'm in the game. I don't know why this doesn't happen to you...

i was just answering your question dude...

I like WA2000 with cold-blooded and thermal for dueling other thermal snipers. I don't like using coldblooded+silencer since needing to 2-shot sucks.

i use sleight of hand or marathon on M21 ghost sniper class but i'm usually moving around the map...if you're just chilling in one spot maybe scavenger with claymores would be best, bling would be good too guess it just depends on if you're a fan of the thermal (i'm not really but i see a lot of people using it)

yeah I was just thinking it might be good on certain maps such as wasteland and Underpass where cold blooded pro is awesome, plus I'm pretty much done w/ the Intervention, almost to 1k headshots

I silence the ACR and the SCAR because (iirc) when you shoot them and they have a red dot on them it hops up and down WAY to much and screws up my aim. I red dot the FAMAS, M16 and the FAL though (red dot > holo imo).

If you're looking at her back then you're going it wrong.

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I'm messaging you right now.

Time to prestige, wheeeeee

Right before I leave for LAPC for a week too, blast! (shield)

i been pimpin the acog on the acr lately. it's fun.

The UMP is great but not because it should consistently outgun ARs. It's nice because the 35 minimum damage frees up your second perk and you can take a silencer without making it take an extra hit to kill at mid range (it's also the only attachment worth anything, unlike ARs with GL, HBS, FMJ, silencer, HOLO, etc).

I've spent most of my last prestige using various UMP silenced/marathon classes and for a console player that plays almost exlusively on softcore I feel like I'm pretty decent with it, but when I go back to something like a stopping power SCAR without a silencer I'm just utterly amazed at how easy it is to kill people. AR's don't need to be buffed more than they already are, either directly or indirectly.

Also I'll add that the UMP was clearly designed to be sort of an SMG-AR hybrid, just like the F2000 was designed to be an AR-SMG hybrid, the Raffie a machine pistol/handgun hybrid, etc.

Also if anybody wants me to run 3-4-5 (2-3-4) with marathon/hardline I'd be happy to do it full-time.

this is a lie because you havent accepted my last few invites

the smgs all have a slight range reduction with a silencer. the non-fal ars have a pretty massive range reduction.

not trying to talk you out of using it or anything. if it works for you then keep using it.

ok i figured out what i was trying to say

the difference between an expert and a n00b is larger with the ump than any other gun (taking snipers out of the equation ldo)

i think more guns should be like this

I've been running around with the Barrett the past few days on every map/gametype. If people get close to me I just kill them w/ Spas. I doubt I'll be using my TAR much anymore.

i know people say bling is a waste of a perk, but M16+holo/silencer with akimbo silenced glocks is ****ing sweet. rarely run out of ammo with teh 3 round burst and the glocks have a decent amount of ammo and large clips. soh isn't that important with either weapon and losing marathon isn't that big of a deal anyway.

uh, not really. silencer just shortens the distance where you lose the bigger damage. You can get one burst kills with the m16 + silencer + stopping power from any distance. It gets pretty hard at very long range just because it's difficult to get the whole burst in that small of a target, but the silencer makes no difference at that range.

Not a big fan of the silencer on the M16.

I have an m16/thermal class for hardcore.. it's pretty good actually

Very true