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Pretty hot take considering the absolutely unprecedented number of paper products WoTC has been producing for the last 2 years or so, to the point where the playerbase is clamoring that it's too much and they can't keep up with all the new releases.

jvs

That's part of my point. However, Arena and esports will sink paper in the long run!!!

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02-24-2020 , 02:47 PM

#14453

killer_kill

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I doubt paper will sink. LGS here still has massive launch for new sets.

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02-24-2020 , 04:28 PM

#14454

Willd

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To quote from Hasbro's CEO talking about their end of year results:

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Magic: The Gathering revenues increased more than 30% in the year, behind double-digit growth in tabletop play and a strong first year for Magic: The Gathering Arena.

Given that the trend in tabletop play is actually upwards at the moment, despite Arena being the main area of investment, I don't see any convincing argument that the physical game is going away in any foreseeable time-frame.

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02-26-2020 , 10:15 AM

#14455

dkgojackets

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Ignoring all the other random speculation, the value in a Black Lotus isn't because people are playing tournaments with it.

I do want big tournaments played on arena though. Watching coverage of paper play is awful.

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02-26-2020 , 12:29 PM

#14456

weeeez

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I didn't realise there was no paper magic at worlds.
I read an article where they said it's crazy there was no mention at all of the tabletop game during the event, which is their main event.
Agree with value of cards being independant of tourneys.

I was wondering, people qualified to worlds via tabletop tourneys right?
Did wizard give arena accounts to tabletop players with full collection?

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03-01-2020 , 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by weeeez

I didn't realise there was no paper magic at worlds.

I read an article where they said it's crazy there was no mention at all of the tabletop game during the event, which is their main event.

Agree with value of cards being independant of tourneys.

I was wondering, people qualified to worlds via tabletop tourneys right?

Did wizard give arena accounts to tabletop players with full collection?

Yes to your questions. Actually more fair then making people bring cards. Bunch of people got ****ed in the legacy part of the team pt

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03-08-2020 , 08:49 AM

#14458

Jion_Wansu

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How so, can't they just scan their cards into Arena or something (you would think)? This is to the Legacy people getting fvcked!

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Originally Posted by dkgojackets

Wonder when WSOP will go to computer based around a table without a dealer. It will be more fair because you just click buttons. If you screw up your clicks then that's on you!!!

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03-09-2020 , 08:08 AM

#14459

dkgojackets

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How many people regularly play paper legacy? Like 1000?

If the main event was constantly decided by the dealer awarding pots to the wrong person or people "accidentally" ending up with three hole cards then I'd recommend going computer-based too.

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03-09-2020 , 11:49 AM

#14460

Krayz

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Yeah, sorry wasn't clear. The Legacy players were messed up because they had to make sure they had all the cards (and the best deck was discovered very late). This can be up to $5k. If a team didn't have the ability to get the cards for the deck they wanted, they were screwed. There were some cool people who offered to lend cards pro bono, but it still was a major issue. Having fully stocked online accounts is so, so much better than making people pay for cards.

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03-10-2020 , 10:11 AM

#14461

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#fight4legacy

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03-19-2020 , 06:27 AM

#14462

Jion_Wansu

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Now with COVID-19. How is this going to affect and effect the paper cards???

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03-22-2020 , 10:55 PM

#14463

bluesbassman

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Originally Posted by Relevant-Info-Only

Other suggestions fur current standard decks? I play hushbringer combo for the moment and it does not work as well as expected

MTG Arena standard, at least Bo1, is totally broken right now. At least 80% of the decks are mono-red, and it has a 90% win rate against non mirror decks, most of those being a turn 3-4 kill. So you are forced to play that deck to compete. Part of the problem is the non-random shuffler, which gives a *huge* advantage to that deck.

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03-22-2020 , 11:26 PM

#14464

Jion_Wansu

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Originally Posted by bluesbassman

It's like the same problems that chess.com has. In other words it's harder to beat players on chess.com than in live in-person chess games just like Magic: The Gathering

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03-23-2020 , 11:51 AM

#14465

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Wat?

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03-24-2020 , 02:34 AM

#14466

Jion_Wansu

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ATTENTION: Our warehouse is temporarily closed due to COVID-19. Any orders placed now will NOT ship until we re-open. We are still accepting Buylists at this time. Thank you.

https://store.channelfireball.com/landing

I'm sure other M:TG places will follow suit. Bye bye paper cards for now!!!

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03-24-2020 , 05:47 AM

#14467

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Im streaming the Powerfest qualifiers in 10 minutes. Twitch name = my location under my avatar if someone wants to rail and hang around

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03-24-2020 , 07:27 AM

#14468

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0-2 bye ^^

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03-25-2020 , 09:50 AM

#14469

dkgojackets

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Originally Posted by bluesbassman

Bo1 is just stupid since the game isn't designed to be played that way.

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03-26-2020 , 03:09 AM

#14470

Jion_Wansu

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Not true. I remember playing best of 1 in 1996 before online of anything pretty much existed!!!

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03-26-2020 , 06:50 AM

#14471

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Originally Posted by bluesbassman

Mono red is not very good in BO3 so decklists people are using are not built to beat monoR but Temur, Simic Walkers deck and RB sacrifice

People are bad so they play 2 games with a deck not built to beat monoR, they lose to MonoR and then play MonoR because everybody is doing it

Also MonoR is the fastest deck people in the internets are not very patient so they just pick the fastest deck to get as much win they can ina limited time. This was the same problem with Face huntard in HS

BO1 is not broken, BO1 players are endlessely trolling themselves in that meta. There's no fix to that problem except erasing the whole humanity but that seems like an overreaction

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03-28-2020 , 05:07 AM

#14472

Jion_Wansu

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Rudy from his YouTube channel Alpha something stated that at least 50% of local gaming stores will go out of business because of COVID-19!!!

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03-28-2020 , 08:16 PM

#14473

Krayz

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That Rudy guy is really all the worst parts of the internet rolled up into one tidy package

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03-29-2020 , 02:03 PM

#14474

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When the meta was all frenzy red a year ago it was very easy to farm mmr with lifegain esper. Not saying thats the solution right now, but just play the meta and wins will follow imo.