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11-17-2013 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by starvingwriter82
Am I the only one thinking that red probably shouldn't be in this deck?

I mean yeah, OMG OMG Stormbreath Dragon, but beyond that most of the red is mediocre. You're finding a way to run Dragon Mantle, Coordinated Assault, AND Titans Strength in a slow deck with only one bestow creature and only 12 creatures you ever want in the red zone offensively.

Seems to me that choosing either white or green to compliment the blue will result in a much more robust deck. Overall it looks to me like the deck ends up with a pretty low overall power level and a huge lack of synergy for the sake of one bomb.
I was thinking RW(splash U). You get the priest. the hoplites that 1WR rare guy. Heroic.dek Thassa is the bomb, not the dragon. the 6 drop hexproof giant and the chimera's seem pretty clunky
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11-17-2013 , 09:10 PM
Dragon is much stronger than Thassa, the gods aren't that good. They aren't bombs more like top uncommon level, its really hard to make them creatures

the removal in the set sucks and dragon kills very fast, and a ton of the removal doesn't work once you untap anyway
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11-17-2013 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Anssi A
Just won MOCS Unfortunately had to play vs Ben in top4.

Sick brag gj
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11-18-2013 , 01:04 AM
Thassa you scry before you draw (so much card advantage), and you can make anything unblockable is what makes it a bomb. and it's an indestructible 3drop. the fact that it can become a 5/5 makes it more than insane

it's much easier to get rid of a 5 drop dragon than a 3 drop indestructible enchantment. But ya, the other gods aren't as great (they cost one more and do less with no devotion)

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11-18-2013 , 01:12 PM
pretty cool post on the history of magic online. despite what it says im pretty sure wizards has been screwing the pooch on modo for the past 10 years. if blizzard can handle 60 man raids in wow, modo should be a piece of cake.

http://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/20...we-learned-16/

Last edited by cakewalk; 11-18-2013 at 01:18 PM.
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11-18-2013 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cakewalk
pretty cool post on the history of magic online. despite what it says im pretty sure wizards has been screwing the pooch on modo for the past 10 years. if blizzard can handle 60 man raids in wow, modo should be a piece of cake.

http://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/20...we-learned-16/
Despite what Wizards says*
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11-18-2013 , 10:30 PM
More historical context:

http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/m...n_MODO_20.html

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Oh yes - now I remember. Let's talk about the 1800 room. I don't want to hit a sore spot here, but perhaps it might have been a good idea to verify that the much vaunted"9-5" queues were actually paying out 9-5 in prizes before allowing people to join them. It's only been fixed just now, a good week after the update. Of course, a couple of days after the update went live,"Hall of Champions" icons were still floating around seemingly at random throughout the Casual Play area, and a successful connection to the server required an unholy pact with Yogg-Soggoth the Star-Eater, Goat With A Thousand Young. Maybe I was unrealistic in hoping for things like"queues that work," considering the 2.0 patch team was spending the first few days shirking blame and trying to prevent rampant"Clan" icons from obscuring the whole Sanctioned Events room.
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11-19-2013 , 06:16 AM
I have never used online magic except workstation .Is the game as expensive as it is offline or the card values or going down? Thank you
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11-19-2013 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
I have never used online magic except workstation .Is the game as expensive as it is offline or the card values or going down? Thank you
Singles are a lot cheaper, drafting bit cheaper.
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11-19-2013 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Anssi A
Singles are a lot cheaper, drafting bit cheaper.
This. Basically every set has a couple mythics that still carry significant price tags, and the price on everything else drops like a rock compared to "real world" prices.
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11-19-2013 , 08:29 AM
is there any trustfull site to see the prices?
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11-19-2013 , 08:41 AM
Supernovabots.com or mtgotraders.com gives you a fair idea for the buyer sell price. Most player will sell/buy cards a tix or two below/above their prices. It really depends, but the markets are pretty much established by the larger shops in my experience. it's been a little while since I really looked at it though.
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11-20-2013 , 10:52 PM
I feel like I have hit a wall with improving my drafting skills. I can't read signals (whatever that really means), I have ended up in the same colors as the person to my right in 3 of the last 4 drafts, and lately I hate all of my drafts/decks. Thanks to ridiculous amounts of lucky topdecking and manascrewed opponents, I've still managed to win most of my matches, but I know I'm drafting and playing terribly. I lost one match to someone with a beautifully synergistic deck with multiple Commune with the Gods and a bunch of cards that I consider mediocre, like Fleshmad Steed. Seeing decks like that make me wonder what I'm missing.

I would practice some online, but this MTGO disaster is making me anxious about putting any more money into it.
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11-21-2013 , 12:53 AM
You are going to brick a reasonable% of drafts sometimes they aren't in color and just open something bomby that you move into

You can fp a card, have them take some bomb while still passing a 2nd pick level card and you get cut while picking enough to stay with the color

Sometimes you aren't cut but packs 3-7 are just color dead etc
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11-21-2013 , 05:09 AM
Congrats Anssi.
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11-21-2013 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Focusing
I feel like I have hit a wall with improving my drafting skills. I can't read signals (whatever that really means), I have ended up in the same colors as the person to my right in 3 of the last 4 drafts, and lately I hate all of my drafts/decks. Thanks to ridiculous amounts of lucky topdecking and manascrewed opponents, I've still managed to win most of my matches, but I know I'm drafting and playing terribly. I lost one match to someone with a beautifully synergistic deck with multiple Commune with the Gods and a bunch of cards that I consider mediocre, like Fleshmad Steed. Seeing decks like that make me wonder what I'm missing.

I would practice some online, but this MTGO disaster is making me anxious about putting any more money into it.
Yeah seeing some of the synergies people come up with in the 84s is half the reason I play this game. I'm still convinced there's a draft deck for the X/3 RU flyer in the set, somewhere. The black steeds are actually pretty great in this set because bears.dec wins a good chunk of games.

Seeing humans, satyrs, RU scry, minotaurs, all be viable is awesome.
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11-21-2013 , 05:21 PM
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Yeah seeing some of the synergies people come up with in the 84s is half the reason I play this game. I'm still convinced there's a draft deck for the X/3 RU flyer in the set, somewhere. The black steeds are actually pretty great in this set because bears.dec wins a good chunk of games.

Seeing humans, satyrs, RU scry, minotaurs, all be viable is awesome.
Spellheart Chimera definitely looks like he's waiting for someone to utilize him in the right way. Fast 1-3 drop decks run much better than I would expect since I tend to play slower decks. But I feel like when I try running faster decks, one or two big creatures on my opponent's side grab control of the entire board and I feel stuck. Then again, I think properly constructing and running bears.dec is somehow a weakness of mine. I benefited a lot from M14's slower pace.

Do any of you have methods for paying attention to your curve while drafting paper Magic? I keep forgetting my picks when I draft live, and I end up with random issues like no 4-drop creatures or a generally bad curve.
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11-22-2013 , 11:42 PM
The main issue with Spellheart Chimera is just what you have to put into him to get something good out of it. For example, you have to burn through three instants or sorceries to get a 3/3 flier, and if you did the same thing with, say, a Wingsteed Rider as the target, you'd have a 5/5.

The Chimera is one of those cards that I feel like is in the wrong set. Somewhere else he'd be really unique and stand out and encourage a unique drafting technique, but in Theros a potential Chimera based deck is for the most part going to be trying to do all the same stuff other decks are doing.

In isolation he looks fine and asks to be built around, in Theros, he just looks like a bad bestow variant.
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11-22-2013 , 11:45 PM
hey, is anyone going to the scg providence tomorrow?

im going and hoping i can borrow a full deck, please, please please??
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11-24-2013 , 08:14 PM
Wheee.. Shipped seattle PTQ.
Going to Valencia for Born of the gods
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11-24-2013 , 11:03 PM
nai han
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11-24-2013 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Heisenb0rg
Wheee.. Shipped seattle PTQ.
Going to Valencia for Born of the gods
You can party with Anssi and ProfessorBen.
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11-25-2013 , 04:10 AM
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Wheee.. Shipped seattle PTQ.
Going to Valencia for Born of the gods
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11-25-2013 , 02:26 PM
I've been playing quite bit of Standard Magic for most of this year. I recently downloaded MTGO so that I could play in daily events. However the next day Wizards made the announcement that they would be cancelled until further notice.

Are there still worthwhile tournaments (competitive) that I can play in or is it all gone? I don't want to buy a deck to discover I can only play bums.
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11-25-2013 , 02:37 PM
The constructed queues are plenty competitive, but they aren't +EV like the Daily Events are.
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