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I think the fact that he has Negate in the graveyard means Snapcaster is easily the correct choice. Both cards are better than a random card, so we should take something. The only reason to consider taking the Bolt is so that he has to draw an answer to Tarmogoyf within the next two turns or lose his Ajani. But I do not think you care a whole lot about Ajani, particularly given that after you take Snapcaster he won't have any more counterspells. And in case some may have missed it, you are one land away from killing him.

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04-04-2013 , 11:28 AM

#11902

da_fume

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The Tarmogoyf isn't doing anything right now.

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04-04-2013 , 11:43 AM

#11903

Deorum

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If we take Bolt then he has to either draw an answer to Goyf next turn and -2 Ajani at Clique (because if he bricks and -2 Ajani at Clique then Goyf untaps), or take a hit from Clique and draw an answer the next turn. He could, of course, Snap-Path. But then we just win.

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04-04-2013 , 05:09 PM

#11904

llarack

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Originally Posted by Anssi A

Play UW Counterbalance (Miracles) if you want to have fun vs combo decks.

"team America" aka bug delver is great vs combo too.

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04-04-2013 , 05:41 PM

#11905

Anssi A

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Originally Posted by llarack

"team America" aka bug delver is great vs combo too.

Funny. Americans normally call UWR deck team america. I guess 3 colors weren't enough so they ended up taking the rest of them too.

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04-04-2013 , 05:58 PM

#11906

llarack

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Originally Posted by Anssi A

Funny. Americans normally call UWR deck team america. I guess 3 colors weren't enough so they ended up taking the rest of them too.

I didn't invent that name and I also think its a bad name.

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04-04-2013 , 07:23 PM

#11907

Cueballmania

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Does that bug you?

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04-04-2013 , 10:30 PM

#11908

Xhad

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Originally Posted by Anssi A

Funny. Americans normally call UWR deck team america. I guess 3 colors weren't enough so they ended up taking the rest of them too.

I could swear the deck was named by Europeans. Apparently it was some tortured reference to land destruction (= Americans like to bomb everything)

EDIT: Oh, maybe I missed the point; yeah, part of the problem with the first deck to have that name having that name is that any american who doesn't get the reference is going to think 3 colors + "America" = RWU

Last edited by Xhad; 04-04-2013 at 10:32 PM. Reason: No, I don't like the name either

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04-04-2013 , 11:27 PM

#11909

Bakes

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Originally Posted by Cueballmania

Does that bug you?

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04-05-2013 , 12:03 AM

#11910

Deorum

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I refuse to call RWU decks "American"

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04-05-2013 , 08:03 AM

#11911

boltyou

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Originally Posted by Cueballmania

Does that bug you?

Well-played. Well-played indeed.

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04-05-2013 , 10:04 PM

#11912

champstark

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Originally Posted by Deorum

To anybody who plays a bit of RTR Block Constructed: Which decks give the control decks a bit of trouble?

mono red, but it loses to everything else pretty easily

esper is by far the best deck, IMO

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04-06-2013 , 05:41 AM

#11913

Pooh-Bah

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Am I allowed to buy tix through this forum? If yes, anyone wants to sell tix for poker dollars, I think I have an account on most major sites.

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04-06-2013 , 09:32 AM

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Deorum

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Wondering if Jund Midrange would be a solid choice if it ran a bunch of Thundermaws, Olivias, and Deathrite Shamans between the main and the board. Perhaps something like cutting a Thragtusk and Huntmaster from the main for two Thundermaws and running the fourth Olivia and four Deathrite Shamans in the sideboard. These are all difficult cards for Junk Reanimator, and Jund tends to have a great game against the aggro decks. Any thoughts? Anybody with Jund online care to test it out some? I have Junk, and also have Blitz in case you want to see how much that matchup suffers after making such changes.

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04-06-2013 , 11:56 AM

#11915

cwar

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Originally Posted by Deorum

I think you're absolutely right about running the fourth Olivia (3 main, 1 board). Shaman is definitely not main deck worthy and cutting Thrag/Hunt from the is basically insanity. I definitely think it's overstated how bad Jund is against Junk as well.

I'm around for testing although I have a stranger deck at the moment and Blitz we may be able to build it with extra cards or something (I have 4 Liliana at the moment).

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04-06-2013 , 12:05 PM

#11916

Cadaz

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Huntmaster is just bad right now so i'd cut that tbh. It doesn't kill anything when it flips unless against aggro where it's a bit too slow and small to be that great anyway and other good decks just eot instant and make you look silly if you try to flip it.

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04-06-2013 , 12:07 PM

#11917

Anssi A

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As a Junk player only card I don't want to see is Olivia. I think the matchup is bad enough for Jund I wouldn't want to play the deck atm. Jund doesn't even have any really good match-ups.

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04-06-2013 , 12:40 PM

#11918

Deorum

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Originally Posted by Anssi A

As a Junk player only card I don't want to see is Olivia. I think the matchup is bad enough for Jund I wouldn't want to play the deck atm. Jund doesn't even have any really good match-ups.

Yeah, Olivia is public enemy #1. You don't hate Deathrite Shaman though? Man that guy's annoying. I agree Jund in general isn't good right now and is bad against Junk. I was mostly thinking of stuff I don't particularly like to see across from me while I'm playing Junk and those three cards came to mind, then I realized they all fit into Jund. Maybe it's not enough though.

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04-06-2013 , 01:36 PM

#11919

cwar

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Here's my latest brew, has an EXCELLENT Reanimator matchup, 4x Liliana 4x Sorin with tons of blocking has been the core of the deck.

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04-06-2013 , 06:41 PM

#11920

cwar

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Originally Posted by cwar

Here's my latest brew, has an EXCELLENT Reanimator matchup, 4x Liliana 4x Sorin with tons of blocking has been the core of the deck.

Did some more testing and made some sweet tech changes:
-4 resto
-4 cartel
+3 gloom surgeon
+4 sublime archangel (so good in this deck)

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04-06-2013 , 06:56 PM

#11921

Trikkur

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Originally Posted by cwar

Did some more testing and made some sweet tech changes:
-4 resto
-4 cartel
+3 gloom surgeon
+4 sublime archangel (so good in this deck)

You cut the cards I liked for ones ... not so much. These changes are going to kill your reanimator match imo. Aristocrat and Angel are both key to not get blown out by Angel of Serenity.

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04-06-2013 , 09:34 PM

#11922

cwar

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Originally Posted by Trikkur

You cut the cards I liked for ones ... not so much. These changes are going to kill your reanimator match imo. Aristocrat and Angel are both key to not get blown out by Angel of Serenity.

Sublime Archangel actually helps in the Reanimator matchup significantly more than Resto, it has the tools to push through as a deck in general and that's actually a very effective plan against Reanimator. Turn 3 Lingering Souls / Nighthawk into Sublime Archangel is one of the best starts you can have against a lot of builds of that deck.

I'm 5-1 against Reanimator so far so it's seeming like a good matchup anyways and Gloom+Sublime are better in other matchups.

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04-07-2013 , 07:08 AM

#11923

Deorum

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Just had an opponent turn 4 Master Biomancer, turn 5 Wolfir Silverheart and pair, turn 6 Fungal Sprouting.

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04-07-2013 , 08:09 AM

#11924

speaksinlyrics

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Originally Posted by Deorum

To anybody who plays a bit of RTR Block Constructed: Which decks give the control decks a bit of trouble?

May I suggest BWR?

Here's a list I like:

4 Obzedat, Ghost Council
3 Vizkopa Confessor

4 Cremate
4 Devour Flesh
4 Dreadbore
4 Mizzium Mortars
1 Ultimate Price
3 Grisly Salvage
2 Assemble the Legion
1 Aurelia's Fury
4 Rakdos' Return

4 Blood Crypt
3 Rakdos Guildgate
4 Godless Shrine
4 Orzhov Guildgate
2 Sacred Foundry
3 Mountain
3 Plains
3 Swamp

SB:

2 Keening Apparition
2 Boros Reckoner

4 Mugging
3 Underworld Connections
4 Slaughter Games

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04-07-2013 , 08:14 AM

#11925

Fabian

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Think I'll play the PTQ in 2 hours. Haven't really played Standard (or Magic in general) in a long time, except for a daily a few days ago which I 4-0ed with Esper.

Anything I should be particularly aware of when it comes to Standard right now? I probably know the basics but not the finer points about recent stuff.

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