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12-01-2023 , 07:09 AM
Larian has taken an unusual approach to its new Honour Mode difficulty in BG3 Patch 5. It buffs bosses by giving them new abilities and fixes a lot of exploits. The problem is that it's coupled with Ironman, although if you die the game reverts to Tactician difficulty. You can't play with the enhanced bosses and fixes without Ironman, which is quite irritating.

I think the root of the problem is that these 'exploits' are so commonplace that players have been taking advantage of them without necessarily meaning to. They've practically become features rather than bugs. Fixing them has a very significant impact on the game's difficulty and wrecks a lot of builds. I guess Larian was worried about the backlash they'd get if they broadly imposed the fixes, so have decided to lock them behind this new hardest difficulty. I'm hoping that they'll give the option to enable Honour mode difficulty options without Ironman. Or that some modder will fix it.
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12-01-2023 , 10:56 AM
I finished BG3 on Sunday with 145.9 hours put into it. Then yesterday they release a patch that has MORE CONTENT! Am I ever going to be able to stop with this one?
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12-01-2023 , 04:11 PM
Rockstar announced a new trailer 9am EST on 12/5

The tweet didn't specify, but everyone assumes it's for GTA6
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12-02-2023 , 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
Rockstar announced a new trailer 9am EST on 12/5

The tweet didn't specify, but everyone assumes it's for GTA6
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12-02-2023 , 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkJr
I finished BG3 on Sunday with 145.9 hours put into it. Then yesterday they release a patch that has MORE CONTENT! Am I ever going to be able to stop with this one?
I decided within about 15 minutes of starting that I'd be replaying this at least once.
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12-02-2023 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rooksx
Larian has taken an unusual approach to its new Honour Mode difficulty in BG3 Patch 5. It buffs bosses by giving them new abilities and fixes a lot of exploits. The problem is that it's coupled with Ironman, although if you die the game reverts to Tactician difficulty. You can't play with the enhanced bosses and fixes without Ironman, which is quite irritating.

I think the root of the problem is that these 'exploits' are so commonplace that players have been taking advantage of them without necessarily meaning to. They've practically become features rather than bugs. Fixing them has a very significant impact on the game's difficulty and wrecks a lot of builds. I guess Larian was worried about the backlash they'd get if they broadly imposed the fixes, so have decided to lock them behind this new hardest difficulty. I'm hoping that they'll give the option to enable Honour mode difficulty options without Ironman. Or that some modder will fix it.
I haven't played BG3 yet, but I did play Divinity: Original Sin 2 on tactician mode (not all the way through, but made it like 2/3 ways of the game) and I'd say that it would be borderline impossible without the exploits, the health/armor and damage of enemies was scaled through the roof there.

I've heard that BG3 is significantly easier, though, so it might be fun to actually play "fair"
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12-02-2023 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Tutejszy
I haven't played BG3 yet, but I did play Divinity: Original Sin 2 on tactician mode (not all the way through, but made it like 2/3 ways of the game) and I'd say that it would be borderline impossible without the exploits, the health/armor and damage of enemies was scaled through the roof there.



I've heard that BG3 is significantly easier, though, so it might be fun to actually play "fair"
It isn't long before BG3 becomes too easy on Tactician, mainly because enemies can't withstand the amount of damage your party can pump out. A mod to double enemy health (plus some AI mods) do help make the combat more fun.

Apparently if you die on Honour Mode, the game maintains the difficulty while allowing multiple saves. You just can't get the special achievement. However you can't switch an existing save to Honour or Custom, you have to start a new game. Fortunately the community has already made mods that apply the Honour mode changes to the base difficulties, and that allow multiple saves on Honour mode.
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12-02-2023 , 12:14 PM
yeah with mods and stuff game may have infinite playability

dunno what combat stuff people consider exploits, the only specific one i've done i'd call that is putting down some explosive barrels but only did that in goblin camp once

i do sorta win all fights without being very creative
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12-02-2023 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
yeah with mods and stuff game may have infinite playability

dunno what combat stuff people consider exploits, the only specific one i've done i'd call that is putting down some explosive barrels but only did that in goblin camp once

i do sorta win all fights without being very creative
The big ones:

Haste doubles your actions, which can allow you to attack four times (with extra attack) or cast two spells in a turn. That's wrong and has been fixed.

Pact of blade Warlock gets an extra attack with their pact weapon at level 5 which stacks with extra attack from other classes. This meant a Warlock multiclass could attack three times in a turn, six using haste. Obviously a popular build choice, now fixed so the extra attacks don't stack.

The largest fix is to do with damage riders acting as damage sources. You've probably benefited from this without being aware of it. Details here: https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Damage_mechani...20the%20damage.

This has a big effect on damage. I stumbled into an example of this one. Used Eldritch Blast + Hex + Phalur Aluve Shriek effect to accidentally obliterate a powerful enemy. The EB triggered Hex which triggered Shriek thunder damage which somehow triggered Agonising Blast damage which triggered Hex which triggered Shriek. Absurd damage. Stared at my combat log for a while after using it trying to understand what the hell happened.

The overall point is that you didn't have to be particularly creative to inflict mega damage due to mistakes Larian made implementing various things. They were so commonplace.
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12-04-2023 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mashxx
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It's legit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdBZY2fkU-0
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