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02-18-2017 , 02:01 PM
There are also "secret" rooms present in each play through, kind of like the Eye and Staff in Spelunky, that I would not have figured out without looking up, though I am generally bad at finding secrets in games.
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02-18-2017 , 05:58 PM
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i guess i'm more saying it because that sensation is probably somewhat fleeting. once that feeling subsides somewhat (and don't get me wrong, the first few times are absolutely mindblowing), you may be left thinking 'well this is still definitely cool and pretty fun, but i wish there were more long, quality games around instead of just tech demos'.

given the lack of content, i could only recommend you do it if you intend to use the computer for other stuff as well. i bought my first gaming pc in close to 15 years to coincide with the advent of VR. the most (sustained) fun i've had in the last year was probably DOOM, in 2D. i don't regret shelling out $$$ to get all this stuff (and if you have the money to burn, i doubt you would either), but i can't wholeheartedly recommend that you do it.

regarding changing tech, the vive has some cool new knuckle controllers coming out soon, and a third party wireless solution, but a gen 2 headset with improved visuals is probably at least 18-21 months away.
Makes sense. I am sure I will be getting it soon just a bit worried about buying something and then needing a whole new set-up a few months later. Price really isn't an issue. They should really sell these as bundles to make it easier for consumers who are not as knowledgeable.
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02-18-2017 , 06:14 PM
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Makes sense. I am sure I will be getting it soon just a bit worried about buying something and then needing a whole new set-up a few months later. Price really isn't an issue. They should really sell these as bundles to make it easier for consumers who are not as knowledgeable.
Just thinking about the endless possibilities of VR at this stage of the game, I am convinced VR is the future. To me the really good stuff is at least a couple years away, but if your really into what VR has to offer now and you are realistic about the cost and OK with that, then go for it. It will only get better content wise. I agree with Yeti there is no risk of needing any upgrades in the near future. The only thing that will probably change is the price tag.

I went the bare minimum PC setup, so if I were to get into VR I would probably have to upgrade my video card to a 1070 or 1080. That should be it though, and I only went that route because it is unlikely I will invest in VR right now, but I wanted to keep the option open.

Also, regarding your post, the price and burden on consumers is high because VR is still in the early stages. The market is geared more to early adopter enthusiasts.
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02-18-2017 , 06:18 PM
I agree. Games like Raw Data seem very cool, but overall still gimmicky and likely to get stale quickly. The medium will develop very quickly over the next 2 years, so it's a crapshoot getting into it now.

That said, I am super pumped for the future possibilities. Imagine playing a game like Knights of the Old Republic in VR.
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02-18-2017 , 06:30 PM
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There are also "secret" rooms present in each play through, kind of like the Eye and Staff in Spelunky, that I would not have figured out without looking up, though I am generally bad at finding secrets in games.
Won't look it up before I progress far into the game.

Regarding normal secret rooms it's actually a bit funny that I got hit today and blank activated and opened a passage to a secret room... Not sure if I'd connect these facts but I'm sure it was the first time and found it rather funny.
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02-18-2017 , 06:42 PM
kazor,

oculus do that, but it's just budget PCs.

if you buy top of the range (like something with a titan x, or wait a month or two for 1080ti) then you should be fine to play new stuff in high quality all the way through gen 2, so like 4 years or so.
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02-18-2017 , 06:48 PM
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I agree. Games like Raw Data seem very cool, but overall still gimmicky and likely to get stale quickly. The medium will develop very quickly over the next 2 years, so it's a crapshoot getting into it now.

That said, I am super pumped for the future possibilities. Imagine playing a game like Knights of the Old Republic in VR.
That's been possible for over a year, vorpx lets you do it. Although it needs some individual game configuration.
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02-19-2017 , 04:47 AM
Just came across "Life is Strange - Episode 1" which is available for free on Steam. Reviews are overwhelmingly positive.

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Life is Strange is an award-winning and critically acclaimed episodic adventure game that allows the player to rewind time and affect the past, present and future.
Haven't played it but maybe someone finds the game interesting.
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02-19-2017 , 06:05 AM
sure
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02-19-2017 , 10:55 AM
Glory to Arstotzka!

Sent to the Gulag after just 3 days in my 1st Papers Please try
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02-19-2017 , 11:50 AM
Life is Strange is pretty good, shares DNA with The Walking Dead games but you get time to consider your decisions. Voice acting is top notch, writing is decent, story has a mystery that kept me engaged through the first four acts (haven't finished the last one yet). The main protagonist is an 18-year old girl so it has a somewhat different perspective than most games, even if I doubt any were actual writers on the game. If you like the first episode, you can pick up the rest for $5 or less on sale.
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02-19-2017 , 11:55 AM
I have never played any of the Fallout games and want to give them a try. Should I start at the beginning? Fallout 3? NV? 4? Make my mind up for me plz
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02-19-2017 , 12:06 PM
new vegas imo. you might run into problems trying to play 3 on a win8/10 cuz it isnt optimized.
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02-19-2017 , 01:45 PM
NV is also all jacked up on modern computers, though oddly 1 and 2 run fine for me.

1 and 2 are really great on their own merits, start from the beginning.
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02-19-2017 , 02:20 PM
compatibility mode doesn't solve these problems?
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02-19-2017 , 02:47 PM
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I have never played any of the Fallout games and want to give them a try. Should I start at the beginning? Fallout 3? NV? 4? Make my mind up for me plz
1 and 2 are old and it really shows in the UI and gameplay. Writing is apparently excellent but I just couldn't get into them.

Fallout 3 has the best atmoshpere, but the writing is pretty bad. Good choice if you enjoy wandering around just to find random things that don't really have anything to do with plot.

Fallout: New Vegas has the best writing by far out of the 3 new ones. It is almost strictly superior to FO3, so it might be hard to get into FO3 after playing NV.

FO4 is similar to 3, except it has worse setting and more random things to do that will take decent chunk of your free time. I'd recommend waiting until it is <$10.
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02-19-2017 , 03:15 PM
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compatibility mode doesn't solve these problems?
I spent a ton of time ****ing with compat modes and like, rolling back drivers and downloading unofficial patches and ****, and NV still gave me pretty serious issues when I tried to replay it right before 4 came out.

One thing is that NV and 4 improved the FPS mechanics from 3 enough that if you try to play 3 after NV you'll get super upset at some of the stuff that's missing. Go the other direction, if you can't handle the SVGA isometric beauty of 1/2 start with 3. 3 also has probably the best story of the 3 modern games.

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02-19-2017 , 03:48 PM
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kazor,

oculus do that, but it's just budget PCs.

if you buy top of the range (like something with a titan x, or wait a month or two for 1080ti) then you should be fine to play new stuff in high quality all the way through gen 2, so like 4 years or so.
Would oculus give me access to the longbow game on steam? How is oculus vs vive? Not sure if they are even items that can be compared. I did just look at the titan x but it looks like a graphics card that is added to an existing computer. Are there any top-end recommended computers you can just buy without add-ons? Your posts are helpful for someone who is new to this technology and not a gamer. I know eventually all of this will be bundled together into packages at places like bestbuy, microsoft,etc..
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02-19-2017 , 04:06 PM
Renowned Explorers 75% off rn
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02-19-2017 , 04:06 PM
The original Fallout games are the best but definitely clunky and I have a hard time with those isometric games where you have to click on everything and it takes forever to get from point A to point B nowadays. I personally preferred FO3 to NV because I was focused on an objective; with NV I felt like I was just dicking around and doing side quests the whole time.
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02-19-2017 , 04:24 PM
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Renowned Explorers 75% off rn
It's also -75% on GOG, you might get a better deal there for some countries (for example Witcher 3 cost me 30% less than a historical low on a sale). Plus if you want it with a DLC the pack is available for a round 10€
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02-19-2017 , 06:15 PM
it's called the oculus rift, oculus is the company, rift is the product. huge nitpick because a lot of people say 'the oculus' anyway

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Would oculus give me access to the longbow game on steam?
yes. honestly i can't imagine you playing this game for more than another 20 minutes but each to their own

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How is oculus vs vive? Not sure if they are even items that can be compared.
yes they can be compared, they are 90% similar. oculus has much nicer controllers (for now), a more comfortable headset and slightly better visuals. vive has much better tracking, an easier setup and is much better for out of the box walking around. those things can be done on the rift but you'd be screwing around with extensions. vive will be a better choice for you. also, if you have glasses, vive is much better.

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I did just look at the titan x but it looks like a graphics card that is added to an existing computer. Are there any top-end recommended computers you can just buy without add-ons? Your posts are helpful for someone who is new to this technology and not a gamer. I know eventually all of this will be bundled together into packages at places like bestbuy, microsoft,etc..
yes, it's a graphics card. people who are enthusiasts who want top of the range PCs usually design and build them themselves. it's cheaper and you get exactly what you want.

with that said, there will be some US sites, i don't know them (i'm not in the US). you could look at alienware desktops but they'll be overpriced.

to be clear, you don't need a top of the range pc to use VR. but if money is no issue, there's no harm in getting one to future proof yourself and to be able to play everything at ultra settings.

they will never sell bundles at best buy w/ absolute top of the range PCs because the demand is so tiny for a setup that strong.

my advice would be to find a tech savvy friend to help you navigate all of this.
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02-19-2017 , 08:07 PM
I disagree on a ton of that yeti.

Vive controllers feel better for shooting games/etc, more people do find rift more comfortable, but visuals? more artifacts in the rift, less in the vive. Vive has bigger FOV so you can see a wider area, but same resolution so lower dpi ( but less godrays ).

Vive has better tracking, requires less usb 3 ports, fits better on glasses users, etc etc.

my tldr is - if you want seated cockpit sim, then maybe the rift... if you want roomscale get the vive.
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02-19-2017 , 08:57 PM
Only fallout I played was 3 and it was just not a good game in any way. Will never play another FO again, so I'd definitely not start with that.
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02-19-2017 , 09:53 PM
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It's also -75% on GOG, you might get a better deal there for some countries (for example Witcher 3 cost me 30% less than a historical low on a sale). Plus if you want it with a DLC the pack is available for a round 10€

How's the DLC? Love the base game but could see adding a little more content being well worth it.
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