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Old 04-30-2013, 03:44 PM   #326
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:54 PM   #327
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Queen sounding good btw!! GTA have a great habit of amazing soundtracks!!
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:58 PM   #328
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I wish they would announce it for PC already, along with someone competent to port it.
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:59 PM   #329
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WOW!!

All three of those were great. I'm thinking this might be a top 3'er of all time for me.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:25 AM   #330
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Awful. Especially the middle-aged guy. Jesus Christ Rockstar, just make a third-rate Sopranos clone mini-series for Netflix and get it out of your system. Then, either stay in Hollywood or come back to games with the acceptance that they aren't movies.

Really looking forward to more "Kill this guy! [......No we're just kidding, he was actually immortal for the last two minutes - but now you can kill him as long as you do it in exactly the way we want you to!]"
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^ lol at this post
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:41 AM   #332
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It will not feel old. I gave it another play through a couple months ago and I enjoyed it just as much as the firs time. Play it.
Followed this advice and it is pretty fun, sound track is goat

but there is this one mission with an rc helicopter that is ****ing hard
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:32 AM   #333
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but there is this one mission with an rc helicopter that is ****ing hard
that mission drove me insane on the original xbox
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Old 05-01-2013, 05:29 PM   #334
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^ lol at this post
Other than the word "awful", which parts of the post do you disagree with and why?
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Awful. Especially the middle-aged guy. Jesus Christ Rockstar, just make a third-rate Sopranos clone mini-series for Netflix and get it out of your system. Then, either stay in Hollywood or come back to games with the acceptance that they aren't movies.
This is wrong

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Old 05-01-2013, 10:19 PM   #336
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This is wrong
"Third-rate Sopranos clone" seems very accurate from that trailer and from crap in the other trailer like "we're 'bouncing' now?"* Are you going to argue that the cut-scenes will actually be good? Rockstar's cut-scenes haven't been good since PS2. When they were good, they were good because they were short and fun and often had recognizable cameos. With their more recent Great Gatsby-esque exploration of the "corruption of the American Dream" it has just been laughable attempts at emotion and "meaning".

I guess I should take comfort in the fact that RDR's authored narrative was also terrible (you wouldn't know this from reading mainstream critics, but that's because they're on approximately a high school level of film and book appreciation), but the rest of the game was still awesome enough that it's in my top 2.


*Note that I do not actually want Rockstar to make non-game content for Netflix, although if it helped them get over their pathetic longing to be Hollywood then I guess I'd be okay with it.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:24 PM   #337
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well obviously the guy is entitled to his opinion. whether people think it's right or wrong is irrelevant, that's why it's an opinion. i disagree with baltimore, but that's my opinion too.

as to the mechanics of the game (the "immortal dude who can't get killed until a cutscene/scripted event") -

a) tbh there aren't really that many missions which use this mechanic. obviously there are enough (just thinking about gta iv i can think of a couple off the top of my head), but it's definitely not like every 2nd mission uses this mechanic. i'd say at absolute tops maybe like 10-15% of missions.

b) find me a game that doesn't use some sort of semi-unrealistic mechanic. pretty much every game has them. just played through all 3 bioshocks, and they have them. just played through fallout 3, and it definitely has them too. WoW is built almost entirely around those sort of things. so to dislike GTA games based on this i think is kinda narrow-minded (and prob a bit biased)
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"Third-rate Sopranos clone" seems very accurate from that trailer and from crap in the other trailer like "we're 'bouncing' now?"* Are you going to argue that the cut-scenes will actually be good? Rockstar's cut-scenes haven't been good since PS2. When they were good, they were good because they were short and fun and often had recognizable cameos. With their more recent Great Gatsby-esque exploration of the "corruption of the American Dream" it has just been laughable attempts at emotion and "meaning".

I guess I should take comfort in the fact that RDR's authored narrative was also terrible (you wouldn't know this from reading mainstream critics, but that's because they're on approximately a high school level of film and book appreciation), but the rest of the game was still awesome enough that it's in my top 2.


*Note that I do not actually want Rockstar to make non-game content for Netflix, although if it helped them get over their pathetic longing to be Hollywood then I guess I'd be okay with it.
You used "Great Gatsby-esque" in a discussion about GTA missions/cut scenes. I'm fairly confident you're just messing with me. So well done /hattip
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:17 PM   #339
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From gtav.net (prob a bit easier to read on there then the copy paste job i did)

Features

You can buy property; houses, garages and businesses can all be purchased for extra revenue sources.
You can customise yourself with haircuts, new clothes, and tattoos
Pay N Sprays can also mod cars with paint jobs, new wheels, window tints, grilles, spoilers. Upgrades to suspension, engine and brakes can also be made.
Weapons can also be customised with laser sights, scopes, silencers, and high capacity magazines
You can pick up hitchikers, do stunt jumps and flying challenges, take part in yoga, golf, tennis or bike races.
iFruit, the game's new phone, can be used to snap pictures and upload them to Rockstar's Social Club
The phone also has apps. In addition to the camera there is internet, contacts, social media, a calendar, and a replay missions app. There are three more Rockstar hasn't yet revealed.
A combat roll has been introduced for moving between cover

Skill Categories:

Each character is rated in a series of skill categories: Stamina, Shooting, Strength, Stealth, Flying, Driving, Mechanic, Lung Capacity.
Each character has a 'Special': Franklin is an adrenalin junkie and can slow down time while driving; Trevor has a frenzy mode, where he does double damage, takes half damage, and has a unique melee attack; Michael has his own version of bullet time
Specials are governed by a meter, it drains after use and recharges slowly
Other skill categories are shared and can be improved by completing missions, side missions, activities and more
Trevor will always be the best pilot, Franklin will always be the best driver but each can improve their proficiency a little
One of the skill categories is stealth, suggesting players will be able to take different approaches to missions

General

The character selection wheel is split into four triangles: Franklin, Trevor, Michael, andyour multiplayer character
Some boats will include gear such as wetsuit, flippers and tanks for diving
An underwater ecosystem exits, "the sea is teaming with fish and sharks"
Treasures can be found underwater, but NPCs will be looking for them too
GTAV rewards exploration, there's no signposting underwater, so you'll have to find the treasure the hard way
Dives won't offer massive payoffs, but will "help grease the wheels"
Pressing Down on the d-pad will drop the play in and out of multiplayer.
There are subtle differences in the way each character moves to reflect their personalities; Michael is slower and deliberate.
Rockstar says there will be five times as many pedestrians in GTAV as there were in Grand Theft Auto IV
There's a "crazy level of detail": Tourist buses can be boarded for a tour of celebrity homes, film posters are plastered on the walls, men in comedy costumes try to corner you outside the Cathay Theatre, including the Superman-like Impotent Rage and Master Chief riff, Space Ranger.
Michael's obsession with classic films translates into in-game set pieces based on real world movies. In the demo the three characters mount a heist very similar to the one from Heat.
'Mini heists' are used to teach the player about preparation. Players must secure vehicles, outfits, masks, the getaway vehicle.
These build up to a bigger heist where the execution must be flawless. They'll require the right crew and players will have to decide on the cheap option, which results in less skilled people, or paying more for skilled crew members that will take a larger cut.
You can switch between Franklin, Trevor and Michael during a cutscene, manually, or automatically when the AI takes control for you
Each character has a job to do, how much you switch yourself in or let the computer do, is entirely up to you
If you die the game reloads to the last checkpoint, even if two other characters are alive
Although it's up to the player when they switch, dialogue will suggest ideal moments. For example, when Michael and Franklin are being overwhelmed by snipers, Michael might ask for Trevor's help.
There is a wider field of vision, and players can run-and-gun
There are some restrictions to character switching, such as how you can't abandon a character while you have a Wanted Level. Lose the heat first! The character selection meter will let you know when you can swap out.
A deer and a wildcat was spotted in the mountains.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:39 PM   #340
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The more I see and read about this game, the more that there is no way it's wont be the best game ever made!
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:56 PM   #341
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I read this article and am back to being somewhat excited:

http://kotaku.com/ive-seen-grand-the...diff-487200782

...but I still think the trailers were bad.

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b) find me a game that doesn't use some sort of semi-unrealistic mechanic. pretty much every game has them. just played through all 3 bioshocks, and they have them. just played through fallout 3, and it definitely has them too. WoW is built almost entirely around those sort of things. so to dislike GTA games based on this i think is kinda narrow-minded (and prob a bit biased)
I don't dislike GTA games, I am critical specifically of GTA4. What I'm critical of is the Uncharted style of play, where in those games they're basically directing you through action scenes like it's a movie. Things happen "spontaneously" such as a handhold breaking while you're climbing, but it's all scripted. In the PS2 GTAs, I remember very little of this. Missions could unfold in crazy emergent ways - as an example, your car nearly explodes with you in it, but you jump out at the last moment and the car takes out all of your enemies. The developers' intention may have been for you to get out of the car and shoot them, but the game is flexible enough to allow other things to happen (freedom).

GTA4 moved away from that and more towards Uncharted. Things had to unfold in a certain way. From what I had heard of GTA5, it seemed like it was going to go even further in that direction, which sucks. Newer information may contradict that, but I still don't trust Rockstar. They're too enamored with what they perceive as their brilliant filmmaking ability. They want to strictly control how things play out, which goes against the entire spirit of the series.

The narratives and situations that are created specifically through your play-style and random happenings are generally better and more memorable than any cheesy crap the gaming companies can script for you.

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You used "Great Gatsby-esque" in a discussion about GTA missions/cut scenes. I'm fairly confident you're just messing with me. So well done /hattip
You can't have it both ways. Rockstar has pretensions of telling meaningful, emotional, serious stories (with silliness and comedy thrown in). A big slice of the rest of the gaming community also has these pretensions (Bioshock: Infinite etc.). Look at the end of GTA4. Somebody close to you dies ("emotional"), and the game eventually ends with a battle underneath the Statue of Liberty with some epigraph about the American Dream or whatever. They are trying SO embarrassingly hard to be meaningful and literary, and would be thrilled with a comparison to The Great Gatsby (which, according to my 11th grade English class, was about "the corruption of the American Dream").

So it it mindless fun that shouldn't be compared to Great Gatsby, or are we actually trying to be Art here? Which is it?
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You can't have it both ways. Rockstar has pretensions of telling meaningful, emotional, serious stories (with silliness and comedy thrown in). A big slice of the rest of the gaming community also has these pretensions (Bioshock: Infinite etc.). Look at the end of GTA4. Somebody close to you dies ("emotional"), and the game eventually ends with a battle underneath the Statue of Liberty with some epigraph about the American Dream or whatever. They are trying SO embarrassingly hard to be meaningful and literary, and would be thrilled with a comparison to The Great Gatsby (which, according to my 11th grade English class, was about "the corruption of the American Dream").

So it it mindless fun that shouldn't be compared to Great Gatsby, or are we actually trying to be Art here? Which is it?
I don't disagree with this but I think using GTA4 as the baseline for anything is pretty bad, mostly because it wasn't a very good game for a lot of reasons.

GTA games never tried to tell a "meaningful" story, just an interesting one. "Hey, you're a low level guy, work your way up". Simple enough and with enough dark/silly humor to make it great. GTA4 just went full on dark and gritty. No thanks.
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Video explaining the 3 characters and how they'll be used.




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This game will never leave my console!
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Also confirmed they are bringing car customization back like in San Andreas!
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LOL what a crazy and unique approach, Rockstar
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LOL what a crazy and unique approach, Rockstar
Its GTA, what do you want them to be doing in the game besides stealing? Setting up fraudulent hedge funds?
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Its GTA, what do you want them to be doing in the game besides stealing? Setting up fraudulent hedge funds?
That would be interesting actually. GTA VI, Wall Street.
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Who cares if they're gonna rip off Hollywood anyway, thought that was the point of setting it in LA tbh. They've done some great parodies of films down the years, the bike chase from T2, pretty much the whole of Scarface etc. Bring it on I say
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Its GTA, what do you want them to be doing in the game besides stealing? Setting up fraudulent hedge funds?
They did the Heat bank heist gone wrong shootout in Vice City AND 4. It was the big tentpole action setpiece of 4! The immediately previous game! Maybe Rockstar could invest in a Netflix subscription and see some more movies? (from clips in trailers and description in articles it looks like they are actually doing the opening robbery with the truck and the hockey masks) In GTA 6 will there be a minigame where you get to steal a TV from your ex-wife's house?


I'm kind of being glib, obviously that **** in the preview about how the game is focused on heists and you actually have some agency in how to plan the big heists sounds AWESOME if they pull it off. SA and 4 really did not allow you nearly as much freedom in completing missions, if you failed you generally just had to try again and do it better(and figure out if it was one of those stupid invincible bad guy chases) instead of trying a different approach.

But otherwise, like Baltimore Jones notes, jesus Rockstar if you're gonna try to be serious please hire a writer who knows how to do that. The dialogue in the rich dude trailer was cringeworthy. That huge list of features includes a LOT of **** that Saint's Row did 7 years ago that SHOULD'VE already been in GTA, mixed with **** that already was in GTA but got taken out in 4 to make room for ****ing darts and fake TV shows.

I think a lot of you guys are forgetting how INSANE the hype was around 4 and how ****ing disappointing that game was. Rockstar is great at making games, but they are goddamn WORLD CLASS at manipulating the gaming press.

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