I´m pretty hooked on the abovementioned games, and generally love games with that sort of development element.

The problem with these 2 games, is it requires you to be online 24/7 to play them optimally.

Does anyone know of somewhat similar games, that either can be played against the AI or against other players, but doesnt require you to be online all the time (perhaps by saving up turns or whatever)?

The thing that made me stop playing Ogame wasn't that you necessarily needed to be playing ALL the time (maybe to be top 50 in your universe or something you would, but not to just play and progress obviously), but that you needed to play sporadically. Trying to crash someone's fleet? You'll have to be playing right now obviously to send your fleet out, but you'll also have to be playing in ~40-80 minutes to probe him and make sure nothing changed, and then you'll need to be playing 40-80 minutes after that to make sure you spend your resources and fleetsave. Not to mention picking up the debris field is always a huge pain because of how slow recyclers are. And then remembering to fleetsave at night, timing it so it'll be back by the time you want to use it...I just didn't like my life completely revolving around a game, and the mini-heart attack I would get when I remember halfway through the day that I forgot to fleetsave last night.

I remember a few years ago I found a game that was really similar to Ogame, but I didn't play it much at all, and I can't for the life of me remember what it was called. Doubt that helps you at all, but I know there's definitely at least 1 similar game out there.

Yeah, agree with all you said, about time expenditure. Basically, I need something I can play when it suits me.

Oh and f*** you for getting my hopes up

Stronghold Kingdoms

pretty nice game

I have started playing Infinity Kingdom recently and couldn't think of Travian.

Hilarious bump though.