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10-31-2018 , 07:19 PM
I apparently still suck at this game because I can't make Prince of Timur work.

It's harder than 3 mountains I think... mostly because the "reset point" is so much later. With 3 mountains I know whether I need to reset or not 2 or 3 hours in but Prince of Timur... all my attempts are basically going to the wire. It's just a really tight timer.
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11-01-2018 , 08:02 AM
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I apparently still suck at this game because I can't make Prince of Timur work.

It's harder than 3 mountains I think... mostly because the "reset point" is so much later. With 3 mountains I know whether I need to reset or not 2 or 3 hours in but Prince of Timur... all my attempts are basically going to the wire. It's just a really tight timer.
Yeah it is probably harder than TTM. It really requires good control of AE and OE and bit of luck regarding alliance blobs and who ends up owning Mughals requirement provinces.
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11-01-2018 , 01:05 PM
I think I may have it. Formed the Mughals in 1485 and Vijay/Bah are both imploding. Got a 4/5/6 monarch. I basically gave myself a reset point of form Mughals by 1480. Only kept his run going because I think Vijay/Bah imploding is worth 5 years and i am not really sure if Mughals by 1480 is even possible (I think it is but I've been falling short).
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11-01-2018 , 03:16 PM
I think you can form Mughals by 1470 fairly often. I'm at 1467 bordering the last missing province. Probably not going to continue this game though as I let the Peasant's War disaster tick up to 99.5% and I really don't want to go -3 stab and +20% autonomy all my land. (That's pretty much only thing that happens if you just accept the rebel demands right away.)

(Started Afghanistan, I atm have 3 vassals who I feed a lot of the stuff I take.)
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11-01-2018 , 09:51 PM
Vassalized Vijay that has cores on pretty much the entire southern Indian subcontinent. Now I am 90+% sure I'll be on time. I am going to no dec somebody in Bengal to get a vassal to feed to and let the AE in area wear down while I clean up Vijay lands and west and northern India.

I'm kind of panicking about the Bengal area because Assam is getting its ass kicked by U-tsang, which is actually a real problem because U-tsang now holds lands I need for the achievement... and U-tsang is a Ming tributary. If some random SE Asian country gets into Bengal before I do, I am just ****ed because two wars with Ming would just make the timer almost impossible. **** that mechanic. I should just turn it off if I have to do another run. It should be fine though.
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11-04-2018 , 02:53 AM
Done with time to spare.

The big RNG for me was just Vijay imploding after it got cores on most of India. Without that particular piece of good luck I think it would have been a lot harder to manage AE.
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11-05-2018 , 06:29 PM
congrats!
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11-05-2018 , 07:34 PM
Mughals are so beastly. I've been marching toward Mongolian lands (to assimilate the culture for achievement).

The ability to assimilate all the cultures and lowered creation costs +admin +humanist means I've been just marching left and right with no worries about rebels/income. Only thing that's really annoying is I have to waste a diplomat just to steal maps because I am conquering faster than the map naturally expands without explorers/conquistadors.

PS: my only navy is a stack of 20 cogs and 7 early carracks.

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11-05-2018 , 10:48 PM
Congrats!

I decided I've never formed the Roman Empire, so I thought I'd do that. It's going obscenely well (IMO). (No, it's not Ironman, this is a great practice run though.) In particular, kebab totally removed in 70 years. Also, the 6-5-6 ruler I got in early game (when still in Mamluk government form) is still alive and kicking at the age of 68...

Naturally, I can't do anything the normal way, so I'm unleashing Coptic Mamluks upon the world. I don't have a lot of the super fancy DLCs, so I had to do it the hard way, by spawning Coptic rebels and letting them run wild.

Vassals (clockwise): Byzantium, Iraq, Hejaz, and Fezzan. With a PU on Ethiopia (they had a 68 year old ruler with no heir when I turned Coptic, so, uh, yeah.) Allies are Austria (with its PU on Hungary) and Timurids basically so they don't do anything dumb like get in my way while I wreck Arabia and the Middle East -- this will go away soon. I also have a RM on a Tuscany with a 50 year old with no heir so here's hoping.

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11-06-2018 , 11:48 AM
Got the Mongolian culture assimilation achievement. Knocked Ming out while I was at it since it started melting as soon as our borders touched.

I have to say it's actually a bit therapeutic to play a pure land war based game. Mughals is kind of like Ottomans on steroids in terms of manpower. I only kept a najd vassal basically to get the -AE scholar around. I had fewer rebels to deal with just coring new provinces myself than trying to feed them to vassals.

Mughals is definitely one of the easier countries to race for World Conquest, even easier than the Ottomans potentially. The culture assimilation bonuses are pretty good and just assimilating the cultures means extra income and fewer rebels.

I want an "I am the borg" achievement of some kind where, as Confucian Mughals, I assimilate every culture and harmonize every religion. Should be good for some lawls.
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11-06-2018 , 12:27 PM
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I want an "I am the borg" achievement of some kind where, as Confucian Mughals, I assimilate every culture and harmonize every religion. Should be good for some lawls.
I did that. (Well, I quit at ~1800 since it got too boring, missing some 1000 dev from ~20 minors so it would have taken few hours to finish).

I was the Confucian Mughal Holy Roman Emperor. Started England, became HRE, passed the 5th reform that makes the emperorship heraditory (so you can change religion), gave up my Christian land to vassals (they take no diplo slots anyways), now had muslim-majority so I could force convert myself, formed the Mughals, attacked Korea for some Confucian land, force converted myself again. I think it was around 1570 when I got the Confucian. After I released Deccan (the Mughals mission that gives permanent +10% admin efficiency), my core-creation cost was pretty cheap.

25 mughals + 20 admin + 10 hre + 10 china + 10 china + 10 hindustan culture = 95% CCR, which is the cap. Add 80% admin efficiency and golden age for extra -10% mana costs to that. Everything also cored in 6-9 months (depends if I conquered all the provinces of that culture in the war or not.)

I was initially going for true 1-tag, but gave it up when I found that American cultures don't give any assimilation bonuses :/. (There is also one more culture group that doesn't give bonuses, the random siberians in north east Russia. Unlike American cultures, they are added to the culture list, they just don't give any bonus.)
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11-06-2018 , 02:53 PM
Achievements man, achievements.
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11-11-2018 , 01:45 PM
Anyone want to multiplayer? I scumbagged the rest of the dlc off g2a. Feels bad but saved a lotta money switching to geico.
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11-11-2018 , 02:08 PM
There's something viscerally satisfying about claiming the throne of Austria as the Mamluks.

Sure, it cost me like 350k troops and about 2500 ducats, but what the hell, right?

(This was jumbo already-integrated-Hungary Austria with a few friends.)

Roman Empire plan working as intended, will just need to integrate Iraq, Austria, finish off France and Iberia (Portugal will be easy, Spain not so much but he's got no friends but me) and snipe what's needed from England.

Even got some new world colonies, because why not right?






Dynasty view, for funsies:



Subjects (not pictured: two of the colonies and Muscovy):

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11-12-2018 , 07:36 PM
So nursing a Yemen game to get the achievement to block European powers from coffee provinces.

It's 1590 and I already got all the relevant coffee provinces.

Are there more achievements I could go for as Yemen in the remaining time (110 years)?

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11-13-2018 , 01:56 PM
I don't think there's anything Yemen-specific (in looking at the wiki)... but for coffee-related stuff:

Arabian Coffee: basically, form Arabia and be the leading coffee producer -- and you're in the right culture group to form Arabia as Yemen so this seems a no brainer

and then Sleepless in Seattle: be the leading coffee producer, and have your capital in Salish (which is basically Seattle) would be doable I think.
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11-13-2018 , 02:03 PM
I'm going to do this Rome thing; it's 1705 and I have three provinces of France to take, got the British stuff, so it's just a matter of eating Iberia, and I took a big chunk of them in the first war. Two more wars, maybe three, and I have to integrate Austria starting in 1716 (which, uh, good bye bird mana forever).

Learned a lot from this and will probably try it as an achievement run next (looking forward to loading up Mamluks_backup_backup_backup).
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11-14-2018 , 09:13 AM
Sleepless in Seattle sounds good.

I am also going for the achievement to spread Islam to the Moluccas via trade.
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11-14-2018 , 10:57 AM
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Sleepless in Seattle sounds good.

I am also going for the achievement to spread Islam to the Moluccas via trade.
Might as well go for other Islam achievements if you go for that one. (Third Way or Jihad). Third way is pretty hard, but Ibadi is the best of the Islamic religions except for everyone being heretic. They have best static bonus and they can invite both shia and sunni scholars. Oman's school is also the -10% AE, which makes conquering gameplay much smoother (even though you rarely realize it is thanks to the school). I went for Ibadi in my WC trade run where I got ~1m monthly trade income.
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11-14-2018 , 11:15 AM
I have Third Way and Jihad already. I don't think I can get those as Yemen anyway?
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11-15-2018 , 10:31 PM
Hurray:

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11-16-2018 , 07:09 AM
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Hurray:

Hopefully you are pagan .

(Pagan Egypt ruler is Pharaoh, while pagan Roman ruler is Caesar.)
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11-17-2018 , 11:37 AM
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Hurray:

Very nice! Why the changed tags from Mamluks to Egypt?
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11-17-2018 , 11:43 AM
From sea to shining sea
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I drained Ming's mandate so now Japan is Emperor of China. I've also drained Japan's mandate so lol mandate.

Still irritated that I could never takeon Muscovy or Ottomans without having to fight both simultaneously. The only mission on my trees that I'm not gonna be able to complete is Revenge for Varna.

I was allied with France until refusing to answer CTA from them against Ming and Delhi, because my troops hadn't yet recovered from the previous war. I'm back up to full strength and just Intervened in that war so I'll go out with a bang.

Also lol Kebab you got enough allies br0?

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11-17-2018 , 12:11 PM
Tag change to Egypt really doesn't do much but give a little development and prestige, so I took it.
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