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09-02-2018 , 07:10 PM
Alright boys Portugal run is in the books. AAR below for anyone who's interested. I'm putting it in spoilers so the images don't screw up page loading

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Western Europe/the Motherland. I wasn't a super active player in Euro events directly but was part of a couple of fairly big wars, one of which finally booted Aragon off the peninsula. I was allied with Ottomans who were a big help there, as you can see they wound up with most of what started out as Naples. Castile was my vassal from after our first war, they had only 3 provinces until the war with Aragorn, after which I fed (some) of their cores back to them. Aragon did manage to survive, they hold Palermo there on the map. France eventually got merked after multiple wars that were basically France v. Everyone which I posted about earlier. Denmark also ceased to exist at some point, that's Hamburg there controlling the Jutland there. I also found it interesting that both Poland and Lithuania survived but never formed PLC and weren't even allied the last ~100 years or so.



The Far East & Southeast Asia. I made it a point early on to colonize as much of the Spice Islands as I could (and conquer what couldn't be colonized) and I think I did pretty well here. Castile irritatingly snatched up 3 of my Aussie colonies to keep me from painting the whole thing green (more on this later) and France controlled a couple of the New Guinea provinces I never got around to taking from them, but I mostly dominated the area. I have a foothold there between Champa and (what's left of) Pegu, but both are Ming tributaries ldo so I was never able to put a strong enough force there to challenge more in the mainland (ran out of time). I also managed to get a toehold in southern India there to open up that trade company, plus I own Goa though I'm still not sure how (I guess I got it in a war but I don't remember with whom). Most of the Pacific islands are mine as well by virtue of taking out what was Holland, who previously owned all of the once not snatched up by GB and France. (I only colonized a couple to extend colonization range, my priority colony targets were trade company provinces which I've read is the correct strategy.)



Africa is mostly mine, though Ottomans could have probably had it all. We were allies for a LONG time though so this mostly explains the map. Ethiopia was never a thing. Sweden grabbed Ezorngondo while I wasn't looking so that's why SE Africa isn't painted. I took most of Morocco and fed what I did not keep to my first vassal Tafilalt. Ottomans obv crushed, with no small help from me. We fought two wars against Russia and would have fought a third but I declined the call and Ottomans considered me an enemy from then on. I regret that decision as I could have probably controlled much more of south/southeast Asia if I had had their help but whatever this is how it shook out. Malwi took three (3) wars to conquer, those ****ers are tough, I may try them out after the patch.



North/Central America was a mixed bag. I feel like I got the important parts in terms of trade (all the cocoa belong to me, plus almost all of the West Indies save (again) a few annoying Castile colonies. While I concentrated on Central and South America + Indonesia, France and GB were busy gobbling up USA#1. I managed of course to grab California and (most of) Alaska, while Castile horned in a bit creating "Oregon" and assuring a lack of Portuguese presence in the North. As mentioned before, France formed Floride, then lost it when it failed, so I had United States alongside GB's Thirteen Colonies after that which is hilarious to me. Canada also formed from France's previous holdings. The few provinces Holland had were gobbled up by me and GB, and Holland's final capital was in the West Indies after they were booted from Europe.



South America was my first colonization target outside Africa so of course I control most of it. The only war I fought with GB was here, I wound up with some Peru provinces in the end but GB and her allies were just too scattered to ever fully conquer (though I did hold almost all of their Western Hemisphere provinces toward the end of that war). Castile just kept stealing my real estate though and it was a huge problem in SA. They screwed me up in Brazil and kept me from making a Peru for a long time. They were a valuable vassal to have, and I think it worked out OK, but part of me wishes I'd have just annexed them and painted SA and Iberia green. I missed out on the Unite Home Region mission by not doing this. I think the value of having a strong Euro march sitting in Iberia while I was adventuring in Africa and Indonesia was probably worth most though. It's just so nice to have marches who will go and fight when I just don't feel like micromanaging the game as much.



The final tally. I tried to play as optimally as possible based on what I have read but I'm not sure I really got there. I focused on getting as many provinces in trade companies as I could, but maybe it would have been better to hold fewer but develop them more? idk. I was getting 606.03 from trade at the end, but I've seen that number in the thousands so I clearly didn't do as well as I could have. Also a big lesson was the more spread out you are, the harder that **** is to defend.


I think I'll try a "tall" campaign next. But for now I'm gonna take a break until the new patch is released, I haven't gotten 7 hours of sleep in any night since I got the game.
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09-03-2018 , 07:54 AM
Aprtly if the host has all the expansions everyone automatically gets all the expansions too. Unfortunately this is usually hidden behind a discord wall to prevent nation ruining, but for now I'm putting up with this inconvenience to play all the expansions I guess.
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09-03-2018 , 08:29 AM
We are going to start new multiplayer campaign this Friday or Sunday with all dlc, inc. Dharma. Plan is to play it couple of days per week. We play on EU evenings, exact times depend on how everyone is free, we have pretty much played on all times between 2pm and 2am CEST. Pretty casual games, mainly started to have occasional human vs human wars in later half of 1500s, not that we have any specific rules about it.

Let me know here or friend me (alkians) on steam if interested.
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09-03-2018 , 08:35 AM
I’m curious at least. Boorish American so wouldn’t be on before like 10-11 PM any weekday evening though.
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09-03-2018 , 12:45 PM
I would like to try multiplayer but I really need to start going to bed before midnight again
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09-03-2018 , 01:05 PM
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09-03-2018 , 08:18 PM
Dharma preview happening here now

https://www.twitch.tv/hashinshin

The elephants look cool
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09-05-2018 , 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
I’m curious at least. Boorish American so wouldn’t be on before like 10-11 PM any weekday evening though.
Yeah, that's probably bit too late for our weekday games since I live in Finland, so I'm even one hour further ahead (starting 11pm/midnight for me). What about your times on weekends?

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I would like to try multiplayer but I really need to start going to bed before midnight again
That should not really be an issue. My studies continue next week, so I'm also more interested to not have games running very late.
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09-05-2018 , 10:02 AM
Unfortunately my weekend times are rather family-dependent and variable; I'd say don't schedule based around me.
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09-05-2018 , 11:03 AM
For anyone who has current saves they wanna keep playing post patch, here's how

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09-05-2018 , 12:15 PM
I guess they deleted the old tweet



bloody hell how hard is it to spell "heartache" correctly
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09-05-2018 , 11:44 PM
If the game is still going will try to hotjoin later USA East time.
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09-06-2018 , 09:27 AM
Does everybody play on the same speed in MP or how does that work?
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09-06-2018 , 09:28 AM
I almost called in sick today but managed to schlep into work anyway
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09-06-2018 , 10:06 AM
Everyone plays at the same speed and when someone pauses it pauses for everyone. If the hosts hits pause the game stays paused, if someone else hits pause anyone can unpause after 30 secs.

Haven't played EU4 multi but in EU3 I believe the common practice was to play at speed 3 and drop to speed 2 during player vs. player wars and try to limit pausing.
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09-06-2018 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Does everybody play on the same speed in MP or how does that work?
Yes, everyone plays the same speed; as I experienced while playing on a potato laptop, if one person lags (sorry again!), the game speed will automatically be slowed down to a speed they can handle.

You can also pause for a short period of time if you need to; I think it's like 30 seconds and then anyone can unpause it.

It was kind of a wakeup call, because I'm super addicted to the space bar to pause, do something, unpause, when really a few days probably don't matter that much most of the time.
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09-06-2018 , 10:11 AM
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I almost called in sick today but managed to schlep into work anyway
you're a trooper
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09-06-2018 , 10:31 AM
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Does everybody play on the same speed in MP or how does that work?
Yes. 3 is the standard. We usually run 1-2 for a while after starting a game/loading old one so that everyone can get back to it and do some micromanaging.

Anyone can pause, but it is frowned upon. Basically don't pause for in-game actions, just for stuff outside game like phone/bathroom etc. because it would get pretty tedious if everyone keeps pausing to micromanage stuff while other people wait.
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09-06-2018 , 11:47 AM
I tend to pause when <whatever's on Adult Swim> comes out of commercial, y'all would hate playing with me
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09-06-2018 , 01:50 PM
Anssi, I think I’ll be around most of the weekend. Let me know details on the multiplayer adventure.
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09-06-2018 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
I almost called in sick today but managed to schlep into work anyway
This pretty much, but ended up getting off early anyway. So, confirmed in.
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09-06-2018 , 06:14 PM
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Anssi, I think I’ll be around most of the weekend. Let me know details on the multiplayer adventure.
Not going to start a game this weekend, one of the guys is busy + most of us want to play single player for a bit first. Probably starting next week's Sunday (or perhaps next week's Saturday afternoon).
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09-06-2018 , 06:53 PM
Ok. Let me know what the schedule is (a PM would be great); if I can make it I will but certainly don’t schedule anything around me.
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09-07-2018 , 10:21 AM
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- Trade Company investments made will be lost on forming another Tag
This seems bad, if you're trying to form another tag would it not be prudent to not invest in trade companies before you get to the new tag?
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09-07-2018 , 01:40 PM
Spend about 10 hours on this. 1 failed run to get the "True Heir of Timur" achievement and currently nursing a Denmark run to get the 10% tea market share.

Big things I've noticed:

Thank god there are more visual cues in status screens alerting us when a province is special in some way (Natural Harbor for example).

Trade company investments pretty meh and European powers are still doing too little in trade company zones relative to EU4 before tributaries. Don't get me wrong, the mechanic itself is rather powerful allowing colonial powers to get a lot more benefits out of their trade company holdings than currently possible but the AI seems pretty bad at taking trade company provinces and using trade company mechanics now. As a player, by the t

Policies end up being another small power creep with the free policies and AI picking stupid stuff (does that surprise anyone?)

Some of the government stuff is insteresting but overall strikes me the same way estates mechanic does: it sounds interesting but mostly doesn't add much to the game.

I am sure better and more hardcore players will find interesting ways to combine government mechanics and policies though.

As far as gameplay goes, I think the impact of this expansion is just behind common sense (good), wealth of nations (good), and mandate of heaven (terribad).

Last edited by grizy; 09-07-2018 at 01:54 PM.
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