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12-12-2018 , 04:08 PM
Daer, how much would it cost me to get you to print me a copy?

This discussion got me thinking that I want some ancient maps. Since I am of Chinese descent I wanted to find high res images of ancient Chinese maps (apparently Chinese people weren't into making maps or aren't into scanning them into high res images).

I found this

https://www.geographicus.com/P/Antiq...tong-qing-1811

I have no idea if the site is legit. But it's asking for $425,000.00 for an 1811 Qing Chinese "Blue Map of China" (really of everything China's found).

There is an "ADD TO CART" red button. I'd appreciate it if one of you adds this map to your collection and then get an insanely high resolution scan of it. I'm sure displate.com will print a really nice copy for me on metal.

Last edited by grizy; 12-12-2018 at 04:14 PM.
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12-12-2018 , 04:54 PM
Some historical maps of China here: https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/ser...ll/where/China

Also on a whim this afternoon I'm printing a 27.5" x 27.5" picture of the Zelda: Link to the Past overworld.
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12-22-2018 , 11:06 PM
So I’m like 3 years into “improved” Castile run, allied with Aragon & France and at war with Portugal & England and Aragon just got a PU with Navarra and doesn’t have one with Naples anymore (and didn’t diplo annex Naples either. Wtf would that happen? That bigly ****s me it seems.
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12-22-2018 , 11:37 PM
Assuming there wasn't a War for Independence, Naples could have been overrun by rebels or the Aragon monarch could have died while Naples had a negative opinion of them. Check if Aragon has a Restoration of Union CB on Naples. Or if they didn't go to war yet Aragon and Naples have a peace treaty then Aragon could have released them voluntarily but I'm not sure that is even something the AI will do.
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12-23-2018 , 02:56 AM
The AI does do that if the vassal + supporters is much more powerful than the overlords coalition or if the overlord‘s war exhaustion is very high.
I‘be seen it happen with Sweden a lot. Naples seems to be too weak, especially if Aragon is allied to Castille and three years seems to be to short for Aragon to become extremely war exhausted.
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12-23-2018 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
So I’m like 3 years into “improved” Castile run, allied with Aragon & France and at war with Portugal & England and Aragon just got a PU with Navarra and doesn’t have one with Naples anymore (and didn’t diplo annex Naples either. Wtf would that happen? That bigly ****s me it seems.
If junior partner's pretender rebels enforce demands, the PU ends as the pretender becomes a ruler.
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01-04-2019 , 11:09 AM
Yeah colonization is noticeably slower since the xpac. It's just so ****ing stupid, I have no idea why they did that. But ENVOY TRAVEL TIME BONUSES so, yay? I've had much better results mostly just taking the lands of indigenous peoples in NA/CA and focusing colonists on Africa and Spice Islands.

I'm in a good spot either way as I vassalized Portugal early on and got lucky and inherited France, so GB is my only real competition for CN lands now. I'm about to declare on them tonight as they're getting too big for their britches. I would have done that sooner but I stupidly let myself get caught up in the religious wars by inadvertently joining the Catholic League (it was seriously a misclick) and somehow Ottomans were also part of that for some reason, on the Protestant side. Ottos have pushed deep into eastern Europe and Austria is on life support, that'll be a problem.

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04-08-2019 , 12:04 PM
Quarterly check-in!

Anyone still playing? If so, have you tried this mod which apparently lets you start in BC?

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04-08-2019 , 12:25 PM
Still playing, I don't really do mods except for visual mods.
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04-08-2019 , 12:29 PM
I’m not playing everyday anymore but I still always have a game going. Currently doing the Brandenburg—>Prussia—>Germany run which has been fun.

Seems like every game I see something new. In this run I have both Great Britain AND England co-existing as totally separate tags. England consists of two provinces in northern France plus colonies in Africa. Not sure how it happened but I think after some war with Austria, France was forced to give up those provinces and for some weird reason they went to Olde England instead of GB, which existed at the time. Very strange
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04-08-2019 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
I’m not playing everyday anymore but I still always have a game going. Currently doing the Brandenburg—>Prussia—>Germany run which has been fun.

Seems like every game I see something new. In this run I have both Great Britain AND England co-existing as totally separate tags. England consists of two provinces in northern France plus colonies in Africa. Not sure how it happened but I think after some war with Austria, France was forced to give up those provinces and for some weird reason they went to Olde England instead of GB, which existed at the time. Very strange
Could be that Scotland formed the GB, not England.
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04-08-2019 , 02:38 PM
Funny, randomly played for the first time in like 6 months to pound out a few achievements, did the Mamluks one (Levant turnaround), felt nice dunking the Ottomans, but getting 100% army professionalism was painfully slow.

Doing a burgundy run now, need to vassalize Austria and France for the achievement. About 50 years in now, got a good start by allying France to dunk England and steal Calais and the coast and giving France nothing, then immediately killing Provence once it got excommunicated by the pope and vassalizing Lorraine and taking Barois. In hindsight it might have been better to try to rush mil 4 and then backstab France while they are busy with England to try to cripple them ASAP.
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04-08-2019 , 08:19 PM
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Could be that Scotland formed the GB, not England.
I think what actually happened was GB won it from Burgundy in a war, then English separatists spawned and for whatever reason GB couldn't be arsed to send troops to defend it so they took Vlaanderin and Calais.

just seems weird to have both tags in game each doing their own thing, England is a colonial power and is guaranteed by France and they're not even allied to GB!



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04-08-2019 , 08:45 PM
I play multiplayer once or twice a week and usually regret it.
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04-12-2019 , 06:34 PM
FYI: Seeing some Imperator Rome youtube videos out there. The map looks awesome.
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04-18-2019 , 09:08 PM
It does look awesome but the gameplay looks a lot like "EU4 in Roman Times"

lmk if you try it out and find it worth the 40 bones
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10-17-2019 , 05:32 PM
DLC are on sale. What's a reasonable few I should get (have none)?
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10-17-2019 , 08:56 PM
Art of War, Rights of Man, and Common Sense are generally considered the most important. After that probably Dharma. And any of the region-centric ones if you like playing there; Rule Britannia for England (also an excellent tutorial), Third Rome for the Russian countries, Res Publica for the lowlands.

Or just buy them all.
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10-18-2019 , 12:19 AM
My vote is play vanilla with no expansions or buy them all. The game is pretty good but quite hard without any expansions, which have all added more clicks and ultimately made the gameplay easier for achievement runs and similar. The good news is if you want to play multis you don't have to buy the dlc if the host has everything but the bad news is multi support is pretty poor and the community can be quite toxic. If you only buy a few expansions, I have heard the game can be buggy, and it will be difficult to discern what is going on because you will be missing a lot of buttons but have like half of them. It will be difficult to figure out if you are not looking in the right place or if it is something behind DLC. If I had to just buy a few DLC, I'd get the one that allows you to Dev (common sense) and the one that lets you drill armies (cradle of civilization).

If you opt for buy them all... Wait for the big sale or.. while I'd generally recommend against the key scammer websites but I make an exception for EU4. Mix and match whatever is the cheapest. Once you get caught up its not so bad but its really dumb that a new player has to spend $100+ to buy all the expansions. Don't buy any bundles that contain army skins (unit pack, content pack, monuments, portraits) in my opinion, they will bleed you enough without them. They are wildly overpriced and only make an ok deal look like 75% off when you are really paying 50% off for the expansion and getting 'free' nearly-meaningless army skin. Honestly, I would suggest against buying the expansions at 50% unless you wanted to buy them anyway, they will sell many of them for 75% and you can probably get them cheaper on the scammer key sites (g2a etc).

Really wish they would put the nation missions, skins, etc in the DLC but have all the mechanics part of the vanilla game as the game is updated. Seems there would be less bugs too but they so greedy.

Last edited by Regret$; 10-18-2019 at 12:38 AM. Reason: //wall of text
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10-18-2019 , 02:12 AM
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My vote is play vanilla with no expansions or buy them all. The game is pretty good but quite hard without any expansions, which have all added more clicks and ultimately made the gameplay easier for achievement runs and similar. The good news is if you want to play multis you don't have to buy the dlc if the host has everything but the bad news is multi support is pretty poor and the community can be quite toxic. If you only buy a few expansions, I have heard the game can be buggy, and it will be difficult to discern what is going on because you will be missing a lot of buttons but have like half of them. It will be difficult to figure out if you are not looking in the right place or if it is something behind DLC. If I had to just buy a few DLC, I'd get the one that allows you to Dev (common sense) and the one that lets you drill armies (cradle of civilization).

If you opt for buy them all... Wait for the big sale or.. while I'd generally recommend against the key scammer websites but I make an exception for EU4. Mix and match whatever is the cheapest. Once you get caught up its not so bad but its really dumb that a new player has to spend $100+ to buy all the expansions. Don't buy any bundles that contain army skins (unit pack, content pack, monuments, portraits) in my opinion, they will bleed you enough without them. They are wildly overpriced and only make an ok deal look like 75% off when you are really paying 50% off for the expansion and getting 'free' nearly-meaningless army skin. Honestly, I would suggest against buying the expansions at 50% unless you wanted to buy them anyway, they will sell many of them for 75% and you can probably get them cheaper on the scammer key sites (g2a etc).

Really wish they would put the nation missions, skins, etc in the DLC but have all the mechanics part of the vanilla game as the game is updated. Seems there would be less bugs too but they so greedy.
FWIW Paradox doesn't do 75% sales any more except for base games.
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10-18-2019 , 11:54 AM
So I went Common Sense, Art of War, Rights of Man and Rule Britannia for the dlc but I don't have the 3rd military estate showing anymore. Is that correct/normal?
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10-18-2019 , 02:59 PM
I accidentally maximized the EU4 window on my monitor, which I usually use for document and email viewing, that's oriented in portrait mode.

I don't think I'll play EU4 in landscape mode again.
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10-18-2019 , 03:36 PM
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So I went Common Sense, Art of War, Rights of Man and Rule Britannia for the dlc but I don't have the 3rd military estate showing anymore. Is that correct/normal?
England/Britain has Parliament, so they don't have Nobility estate. You'll have nobility estate with all other nations. I'd really recommend you to get Dharma too, the government reforms are fun and it has bunch of other stuff too.

(If you plan on colonizing, El Dorado is IMO must too.)
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10-19-2019 , 07:02 PM
Ok I'll get those two as well then and prob be the extent of what I grab for a while. Thanks everyone.
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10-21-2019 , 06:44 PM
Gonna have to get a +1 diplo relation advisor to fix this AE my gf is gonna have for me spending this money on eu4, jk.
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