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10-26-2016 , 06:10 PM

#176

Kirbynator

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Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 52,004

slaughterfish in face decks is the dumbest ****ing card in this game

"oh you dont have a pinging card in your first 4? you lose."

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10-26-2016 , 06:35 PM

#177

Mor_Tilt4mePls

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 15,941

just low rolled mentors ring for my level up legendary

tilted

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10-26-2016 , 07:05 PM

#178

jmakin

banned

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 30,120

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

slaughterfish in face decks is the dumbest ****ing card in this game

"oh you dont have a pinging card in your first 4? you lose."

Lol, yea

At least you get a ton of cards

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10-26-2016 , 07:12 PM

#179

donjonnie

McSeafield Survivor

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,902

So I can't soul trap cards I don't have 4+ of?

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10-26-2016 , 07:14 PM

#180

Kirbynator

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you can soul trap anything that isnt a special reward from arena or whatever. like the 3 mana legendary boy

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10-26-2016 , 07:17 PM

#181

donjonnie

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,902

I see. That was the card I wanted to get rid of

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10-26-2016 , 09:08 PM

#182

Falken

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 318

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

where did you see theres hidden mmr in arena?

It was mentioned in one of the developer streams that it takes into account your current record+arena mmr when matching players.

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10-26-2016 , 11:34 PM

#183

Cotton Hill

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Is 50 the max level? As best I can tell the last card upgrade you get from leveling is at 50, so that would make sense.

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10-26-2016 , 11:57 PM

#184

Kirbynator

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10-27-2016 , 04:48 AM

#185

Abysmal

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3,086

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Originally Posted by Falken

It was mentioned in one of the developer streams that it takes into account your current record+arena mmr when matching players.

Will that just mean the level 1-9 thing? That wouldn't be too bad as all the bad players will get to 1 eventually, though I'd prefer no ranking system at all obviously.

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10-27-2016 , 11:51 AM

#186

Falken

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 318

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Originally Posted by Abysmal

Will that just mean the level 1-9 thing? That wouldn't be too bad as all the bad players will get to 1 eventually, though I'd prefer no ranking system at all obviously.

Talked about at 41 minutes in this vod https://www.twitch.tv/direwolfdigital/v/85290636

Unless it is changed since then the level don't matter at all and it's all based on a hidden mmr which means everyone will gravitate towards a 3-3 record no matter how skilled you are. Pretty disappointing as it means arena will be much less effective then in hearthstone to build up a collection. Might even be better off playing solo arena at some point depending on how successful their mmr system is at matching you.

Last edited by Falken; 10-27-2016 at 11:59 AM.

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10-27-2016 , 12:26 PM

#187

Namath12

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need mobile app noooooowwwwwww

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10-27-2016 , 12:27 PM

#188

feedthabeast

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 8,302

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Originally Posted by Falken

I'm sure they'll adjust it when the player base grows. But yeah drafting a bad deck and playing vs people with a high skill level and good deck will suck.... a lot.

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10-27-2016 , 05:18 PM

#189

SJUD

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 176

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Originally Posted by Falken

LOL at thinking the top players gravitate towards 3-3 no matter what. My average this month is probably above 5. Sounds like you 0-3ed a couple times and are upset about it. It's way better than solo arena for building a collection.

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10-27-2016 , 06:36 PM

#190

SJUD

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 176

Finally back in the top 100 after this nice little session. Played against mostly aggro decks which helps.

http://imgur.com/a/WuoBi

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10-27-2016 , 06:44 PM

#191

Kirbynator

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playing control spellsword, get almost only hist grove scout and control mage with bad rng

switch to crusader, get only midrange decks

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10-27-2016 , 08:01 PM

#192

Falken

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 318

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Originally Posted by SJUD

You don't understand what gravitate means do you? It doesn't mean everyone go 3-3 it means somebody who would average 6-7 wins under the arena system hearthstone uses might average around 5 wins in the one legends got. It also mean that if the player base was 10 times bigger you'd probably be pretty close to 3 win average, don't kid yourself.
And yeah I had some pretty bad arena runs lately but not as bad as 0-3 at least. Also fyi my average is still almost 6 wins per run although that counts my early runs where I went 7 wins almost every single time since I had a big edge over other new players.

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10-27-2016 , 09:39 PM

#193

toss

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Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 10,046

Finally hit 7 wins in vs arena on my fifth try. Pretty good feeling after going 0-3 right before hand. My current style is drafting pretty low and aggressive with only a few high cost creatures. Then I go face with almost no regard for the runes. Usually it comes down to a face race.

I'll try valuing the prophecy cards higher though since SJUD says it's good.

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10-27-2016 , 09:41 PM

#194

Kirbynator

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ive been doing the same lately with much better success. Face is often the place because in arena they dont necessarily have the ressources to drain or prophecy back in the game.

also went 0-3 then 7-2 the one after

the variance is pretty insane, quite often the best decks I face is the first arena game I play

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10-27-2016 , 11:23 PM

#195

Falken

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 318

That's pretty much my strategy as well. When drafting I just pick with the intention of beating my opponent in a race. A common mistake I see people make is trade automatically when I'm 3-4 dmg off lethal on board when in reality their best chance to win would be to go for it and set up their own chance for lethal. Isn't always the case of course but sometimes the best play is to just hope they don't draw anything relevant. Think players in general are too afraid their opponent will have the answer they fear.

Last edited by Falken; 10-27-2016 at 11:43 PM.

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10-28-2016 , 12:02 AM

#196

SJUD

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 176

Ya it's pretty hard to play control in arena without constructed level quantities of prophecy taunts. I usually try to play midrangey unless I'm going with a red/X deck.

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10-28-2016 , 01:37 AM

#197

feedthabeast

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 8,302

I run so ****ing bad in arena. Just played against someone with FIVE lightning bolts...including 3 off prophecies, two jarls, and indoril. It's like every other game I face a crazy deck like this and just get stomped. I even played t1 ungolim then proceed to get down to 12 cards without drawing a single assassin.

Next game lose to some guy hitting two of the 7 drop gain 4 health prophecy taunts and end up one off lethal...next game have lethal on board and only lose to ice storm....has it and follows up with more crazy stuff. Solid 1-3 run.

Last edited by feedthabeast; 10-28-2016 at 02:02 AM.