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Old 02-15-2019, 02:56 PM   #22076
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Re: DOTA 2

took me a while to realize lich+razor offlane wasnt just a really bad way to position them on the chessboard
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:03 PM   #22077
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Just had the thought that auto chess with actual chess pieces could be really fun. Not exactly sure how it'd work.

How does positioning with in auto chess? Is the center of the board as important as it is in regular? Guessing not
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Old 02-17-2019, 03:30 AM   #22078
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7.21b just dropped

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XP earned when being denied increased from 25% to 30%
ITEMS


HAND OF MIDAS
Gold bonus reduced from 200 to 180
HEROES


ANTI-MAGE
Base agility increased by 2

BANE
Strength Gain increased from 2.4 to 2.6
Agility Gain increased from 2.4 to 2.6
Intelligence gain reduced from 2.8 to 2.6

CHAOS KNIGHT

CHAOS STRIKE
Chaos Strike lifesteal rescaled from 40/50/60/70% to 25/40/55/70%

CRYSTAL MAIDEN

FREEZING FIELD
Freezing Field armor increased from 10 to 20

DARK SEER
Base armor reduced by 2
Agility gain increased from 1.2 to 1.8

GRIMSTROKE

INK SWELL
Ink Swell stun duration reduced from 1.4/2.2/3.0/3.8 to 1.0/1.9/2.8/3.7

SOULBIND
Soulbind slow reduced from 15/30/45% to 10/20/30%

IO

TETHER
Tether no longer makes you unslowable

SPIRITS
Spirits no longer has a toggle cooldown
Spirits min range increased from 100 to 200
Spirits rotation interval from every 2.4 seconds to 2.7
Spirits no longer does a micro animation interruption when initially casting (already has zero cast point)

OVERCHARGE
Overcharge damage reduction reduced from 15/20/25/30% to 5/10/15/20%

RELOCATE
Relocate manacost increased from 100 to 175
TALENTS
Level 15 Talent changed from Tether Grants Scepter Bonus to +8 Health Regen
Level 20 Talent changed from +16 Health Regen to Tether Grants Scepter Bonus

JUGGERNAUT

OMNISLASH
Omnislash attack rate multiplier reduced from 1.8 to 1.7

KEEPER OF THE LIGHT

WILL-O-WISP
Will-O-Wisp being cast a second time will follow the same tick interval as the first

LESHRAC
Agility gain increased from 1.7 to 2.3

LICH
Movement speed reduced from 305 to 295

SINISTER GAZE
Sinister Gaze duration reduced from 1.6/1.9/2.2/2.5 to 1.3/1.7/2.1/2.5

LIFESTEALER
Strength gain reduced from 3.6 to 3.2

FEAST
Feast reduced from 1.75/2.5/3.25/4% to 1.5/2.25/3/3.75%

LINA
Base intelligence increased by 2

LYCAN
Base armor increased by 1

MAGNUS
Strength gain reduced from 3.7 to 3.5

SKEWER
Skewer slow reduced from 25/30/35/40% to 10/20/30/40%

EMPOWER
Empower manacost increased from 30/50/70/90 to 45/60/75/90

NIGHT STALKER
Strength gain reduced from 3.6 to 3.2

OMNIKNIGHT

HEAVENLY GRACE
Heavenly Grace duration increased from 10 to 12

PHANTOM LANCER

PHANTOM RUSH
Phantom Rush agility bonus increased from 6/14/22/30 to 9/18/27/36

RIKI
Base health regen increased by 1.5

SHADOW FIEND
Base strength increased by 1
Intelligence gain increased from 2.0 to 2.2

SLARK
Base armor increased by 1

SNIPER
Base strength increased by 2
TALENTS
Level 15 Talent changed from +15% Shrapnel Slow to +20%

SPECTRE
Base strength increased by 2
TALENTS
Level 10 Talent increased from +4 All Stats to +5

STORM SPIRIT

STATIC REMNANT
Static Remnant manacost reduced from 100 to 70/80/90/100

ELECTRIC VORTEX
Electric Vortex cooldown reduced from 22/20/18/16 to 16

SVEN

GREAT CLEAVE
Great Cleave reduced from 45/60/75/90% to 30/50/70/90%

WARCRY
Warcry bonus speed reduced from 8/12/16/20% to 5/10/15/20%
Warcry shield base capacity reduced from 80/110/140/170 to 60/90/120/150

GOD'S STRENGTH
God's Strength cooldown increased from 80 to 100

TEMPLAR ASSASSIN

MELD
Meld debuff now stacks

TIMBERSAW
Base intelligence increased by 2

WHIRLING DEATH
Whirling Death stat loss increased from 12/13/14/15% to 13/14/15/16%

TINY

TREE GRAB
Tree Grab bonus damage reduced from 25/30/35/40% to 10/20/30/40%

TREANT PROTECTOR

LIVING ARMOR
Living Armor damage block increased from 25/50/75/100 to 40/60/80/100

URSA
Base armor reduced by 2

OVERPOWER
Overpower cooldown increased from 10 to 16/14/12/10

VISAGE
Strength reduced from 24 + 3.0 to 22 + 2.8

SUMMON FAMILIARS
Summon Familiars attack damage reduced from 30/45/60 to 20/40/60

WARLOCK
Base intelligence increased by 3

UPHEAVAL
Upheaval manacost reduced from 100/110/120/130 to 70/90/110/130

WEAVER

GEMINATE ATTACK
Geminate attack now deals 10/20/30/40 bonus physical damage on the second hit
First impression: wow CM's ult armor got doubled, she already seemed very strong...

TA's Meld stacking seems super good... especially for taking Rosh

KOTL refresher orb is total **** now? Really needed to be changed tho, had a game today where once KOTL got refresher we basically won completely from that, pretty nuts impact for a support hero. Was like 10 seconds of virtual permastun on 3 heros+ multiple times lol

Lich Ursa Sven Visage all got pretty big nerfs

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Old 02-17-2019, 11:17 PM   #22079
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they uncapped the max mmr in autohess

hyyype leaderboard matters
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Old 02-17-2019, 11:25 PM   #22080
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:29 PM   #22081
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Damn near flawless game to hit Rook 1. Hit level 10 at Round 25 with 50+ gold and didn't take any damage until later.

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Old 02-18-2019, 09:38 PM   #22082
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damn thats a weird lineup lol, frontline of AM 3+tide2+techies 2 is insane :O

*also i just hti #2 worldwide leaderboard! just leaving that out here cause im maybe never getting this close again

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Old 02-18-2019, 10:33 PM   #22083
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Thatís sick. Congrats.

Kinda had to have a weird lineup. Got an early QOP2 and kept getting assasins, so went for 6 syn.
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Old 02-18-2019, 11:06 PM   #22084
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thats awesome kirby, wp
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Old 02-18-2019, 11:44 PM   #22085
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Dota Chess TI1 incoming? I feel like there's 0 chance we don't see a Dota Chess tournament at TI this year.

Pretty hilarious to see Dota 2 on Twitch topped by all the famous Hearthstone streamers lolol. Is that game dead? Seems dead. I feel like actual Dota will eventually be less popular than Auto Chess if this Twitch trend keeps up. It quite possibly could already be the case in NA actually, NA player counts are so low FeelsLowQualityPubMan.

Also wonder if Blizzard is fast working on a Hearthstone Chess with the HOTS engine...

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Old 02-19-2019, 01:37 AM   #22086
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oof, back on the grind, three bottom 3 games in a row. When you literally have to get lucky not to finish deadlast its not a great feeling
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Old 02-20-2019, 01:16 AM   #22087
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damn thats a weird lineup lol, frontline of AM 3+tide2+techies 2 is insane :O

*also i just hti #2 worldwide leaderboard! just leaving that out here cause im maybe never getting this close again

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Quoting bc as I'm catching up and reading this post, I check leaderboard in game and Kirby #ONEEEEEEEEEE111!!!11!!!!

I knew him when
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Old 02-20-2019, 01:23 AM   #22088
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For posterity



(finished 3rd that game and gained some mmr on top)

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Old 02-20-2019, 03:24 AM   #22089
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There should be a version of Dota Chess where 5 players can play one chess board cooperatively together
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:58 AM   #22090
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Being n1 world at anything is pretty sick, for kirby it feels normal

Haven't played auto chess, watched a good 20min total of streams and read this thread and yet have no idea how this game works (nor do I want to learn).
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Old 02-21-2019, 01:16 AM   #22091
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Being n1 world at anything is pretty sick, for kirby it feels normal

Haven't played auto chess, watched a good 20min total of streams and read this thread and yet have no idea how this game works (nor do I want to learn).


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Old 02-24-2019, 02:39 PM   #22092
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Gotta say it's pretty cool to see Team Secret win, despite the PuppEEy drama. MidOne is such a baller, and Puppey is a really good captain at working with his teammate's strengths.

1. Nisha - Polish
2. MidOne - Malaysian
3. Zai - Swedish
4. YapzOr - Jordan
5. Puppey - Estonia

True International Squad
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Old 02-25-2019, 06:51 AM   #22093
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I dont really follow Dota competetive scene, but I went to ESL Katowice with some friends (Im from Poland), it was quite interesting. One thing that was pretty surprising was how little people were actually there, granted the venue was huge, but it was mb 1/3 or even 1/4 full on Saturday evening. Also, it kinda sucked that you couldnt buy alcohol anywhere, I cant imagine that the Dota main audience is a lot of kids.

Other than that, pretty fun experience, though me and my friends were drinking hard, so I dont really remember much abot the actual games
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:37 PM   #22094
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Dead game. Nah it is probably just nowhere near as popular as CSGO in Poland.
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Old 02-25-2019, 02:53 PM   #22095
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I dont really follow Dota competetive scene, but I went to ESL Katowice with some friends (Im from Poland), it was quite interesting. One thing that was pretty surprising was how little people were actually there, granted the venue was huge, but it was mb 1/3 or even 1/4 full on Saturday evening. Also, it kinda sucked that you couldnt buy alcohol anywhere, I cant imagine that the Dota main audience is a lot of kids.

Other than that, pretty fun experience, though me and my friends were drinking hard, so I dont really remember much abot the actual games
i went to a small dota event last year and they had 3 separate drink stations - 'merican beer, craft beer, and a redbull sponsored w hard alcohol.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:21 PM   #22096
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Dota balance seems at a weird place right now. I do like this patch a lot, however XP gain seems to far outpace gold gain now. I know gold got nerfed a ton lately but I feel like XP needs to be tuned down as well to stay balanced.

Actually surprised that Alchemist isn't 1st pick with how hard it is to get a ton of gold now. Thinking the new best LD build is double quelling blade and use melee form on the hero, +48 creep dmg for 400 gold, allows to farm very fast. Midas idk if it's good or not right now, it just feels like a huge investment when gold is so hard to come by, and yea obv it will give gold but it takes a while.
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Old 03-02-2019, 06:37 AM   #22097
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Dota balance seems at a weird place right now. I do like this patch a lot, however XP gain seems to far outpace gold gain now. I know gold got nerfed a ton lately but I feel like XP needs to be tuned down as well to stay balanced.

Actually surprised that Alchemist isn't 1st pick with how hard it is to get a ton of gold now. Thinking the new best LD build is double quelling blade and use melee form on the hero, +48 creep dmg for 400 gold, allows to farm very fast. Midas idk if it's good or not right now, it just feels like a huge investment when gold is so hard to come by, and yea obv it will give gold but it takes a while.
Alch is basically the counter to late game carries that need a lot of farm. Most people pick heroes that need just 1 or 2 items to be strong. Alch also struggles a lot in lane, and with the current meta you can't really spare a support to help him at all. And there's also a lot of fighting and snowballing in this meta, not really alchs cup of tea, that dude wanna farm unhindered for like 10-15 mins and then win.

Iyam Alch prefers slower meta because he is incredibly fast, when the meta is fast the disparity between Alch and the other heroes is smaller. Even if he has way more items fighting against heroes like OD and Ursa early is really rough on Alch, as opposed to like invoker/spectre.
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Old 03-02-2019, 06:27 PM   #22098
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Kirb did you play in the DAC invitational yesterday? Looked like most of your crew played.
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Old 03-02-2019, 06:34 PM   #22099
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no was a streamer invitational


... also just won a game in queens lobby that didnt count

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Old 03-03-2019, 03:39 PM   #22100
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7.21c released

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GENERAL

XP earned when being denied increased from 30% to 35%
ITEMS


DRUM OF ENDURANCE
Recipe cost increased from 500 to 600

HAND OF MIDAS
Gold bonus reduced from 180 to 160
HEROES


ABADDON

MIST COIL
Mist Coil damage/heal increased from 100/150/200/250 to 120/165/210/255

ALCHEMIST

ACID SPRAY
Acid Spray radius increased from 400/475/550/625 to 475/525/575/625

ANCIENT APPARITION
Intelligence gain increased from 3 to 3.4

ICE BLAST
Ice Blast duration increased from 9/10/11 to 10/11/12

BOUNTY HUNTER
Agility gain reduced from 3.1 to 2.6

BROODMOTHER
Agility gain increased from 2.5 to 2.8
TALENTS
Level 15 Talent increased from +15 Agility to +20

CHEN

DIVINE FAVOR
Divine Favor bonus damage reduced from 12/24/36/48 to 8/16/24/32
Divine Favor non-hero damage multiplier increased from 2x to 3x

DEATH PROPHET

SILENCE
Silence cast point reduced from 0.5 to 0.4

CRYPT SWARM
Crypt Swarm manacost reduced from 105/120/140/165 to 85/110/135/160
TALENTS
Level 15 Talent increased from +150 Cast Range to +175

ELDER TITAN

ASTRAL SPIRIT
Astral Spirit bonus damage from creeps reduced from 6/9/12/15 to 3/7/11/15

ENCHANTRESS

IMPETUS
Impetus damage increased from 16/20/24% to 16/22/28%

JUGGERNAUT

HEALING WARD
Healing Ward movement speed reduced from 400 to 350

KUNKKA

TIDEBRINGER
Tidebringer no longer provides a bonus on denies

LIFESTEALER
Strength gain reduced from 3.2 to 2.9

LINA
TALENTS
Level 20 Talent increased from +25/2% Fiery Soul Per Stack to +30/2%
Level 20 Talent increased from +12% Spell Amplification to +14%

LUNA

ECLIPSE
Eclipse max beams increased from 5/8/11 to 6/9/12

LYCAN
Strength gain reduced from 3.8 to 3.4

MEDUSA
Intelligence gain increased from 2.1 to 2.6

MEEPO
Agility increased from 23 + 1.6 to 24 + 1.8
Strength gain increased from 1.6 to 1.8

MIRANA
Intelligence increased from 17 + 1.7 to 19 + 1.9

MONKEY KING

MISCHIEF
Mischief now makes you immune to damage briefly, rather than invulnerable

MORPHLING
Strength gain increased from 2.6 to 3.0

NATURE'S PROPHET

NATURE'S CALL
Nature's Call treant damage reduced from 36 to 27/30/33/36

PANGOLIER

LUCKY SHOT
Lucky Shot no longer triggers off of Pangolier illusions
Lucky Shot slow reduced from 40% to 35%

PHANTOM ASSASSIN
Agility gain reduced from 3.7 to 3.4

PHANTOM LANCER

PHANTOM RUSH
Phantom Rush bonus agility increased from 9/18/27/36 to 11/22/33/44

QUEEN OF PAIN
Base intelligence increased by 3 (base damage unchanged)

SONIC WAVE
Sonic Wave damage increased from 320/410/500 to 340/430/520

RIKI
Base movement speed increased by 5

SAND KING
Base intelligence increased by 3

SHADOW FIEND
Base strength increased by 2

SHADOW SHAMAN

SHACKLES
Shackles cooldown increased from 10 to 16/14/12/10

SNIPER

HEADSHOT
Headshot damage increased from 20/50/80/110 to 30/60/90/120

SHRAPNEL
Shrapnel charge replenish rate improved from 55 to 50

SPIRIT BREAKER
Base health regen increased by 0.75

STORM SPIRIT

ELECTRIC VORTEX
Electric Vortex no longer slows your hero

SVEN
Strength gain reduced from 3.5 to 3.2

TECHIES

REMOTE MINES
Remote Mines cooldown reduced from 10 to 8

TEMPLAR ASSASSIN
Agility gain increased from 2.6 to 2.8

REFRACTION
Refraction bonus damage increased from 20/40/60/80 to 25/50/75/100

TIDEHUNTER
Strength gain reduced from 3.8 to 3.5

TROLL WARLORD
TALENTS
Level 20 talent reduced from +50 damage to +40

URSA
Movement speed reduced by 5

VIPER
Agility gain reduced from 3.3 to 2.8

NETHERTOXIN
Nethertoxin aoe damage no longer stacks with itself
Nethertoxin manacost increased from 75 to 70/80/90/100

POISON ATTACK
Poison Attack slow reduced from 25/30/35/40% to 10/20/30/40%

WINDRANGER

SHACKLESHOT
Shackleshot cooldown reduced from 18/16/14/12 to 16/14/12/10

FOCUS FIRE
Focus Fire attack speed increased from 400 to 425
I wonder if Hand of Midas is now best used on the small creeps now that it only gives 160 gold. Hmmm
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