I don't have an answer for your question, I just wanted to agree with the bold part. I pretty much refuse to do it, at my own cost. I used to do it for resplendent chests and whatnot before the patch.

just tanked siegebreaker melee with my DH new build.
easy mode.

Seems odd since it takes like a minute to kill the butcher.

yeah and butcher drops so many items that you will probably average 1.5 rares from him. the time it takes to run to two blue packs and kill them should be significantly less than killing butcher unless its hardcore and not worth the risk.

I'd say elite packs are riskier than butcher, so it's not really an issue for HC players.

I have no idea what I'm looking at. Those pictures are way too small.

ya srry just pics of DH melee.
pretty funny so far.
need a little more dps but I just started the build so lot of room to improve.

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this song just came out, catchy stuff imo! even though i hate gangkiz

I just had the weirdest thing happen to me. Doing an Act 1 Butcher run through the Crypts (Cemetary of Forsaken) and came upon this:



I've never seen that layout before. It's actually a configuration of a random crypt that spawns in the Fields of Misery, which I've found when I farmed Resplendent Chests.

Anyone ever have this happen to them?

Once you have your skills selected for the run go into options and deselect elective mode. It'll lock your skills bar and that won't happen again.

Ruined many a good runs for me, it happens a lot to frenzy barbs because its actually optimal to hold down the left mouse button which often times will drag and drop a skill.

Thanks Xled

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I dislike how Blizzard decided to implement a system where swapping gear is optimal, and how you're screwing your teammates if you refuse to do so. Even with building (almost) my whole main set with MF, I'm still farming sub-optimally (and lowering group MF by a few %) because I'm too lazy to swap on slightly higher MF pieces on elite/boss kills. They really need to get rid of the average MF system.

Easy solution. If you swap gear you lose your NV stacks.

It does seem odd to have unique loot but also weigh group magic find in the equation. Trying to figure out why the contradiction but maybe they just felt it would create a more fun group dynamic or something.

Wish they would do that but I do swap gear by accident sometimes.

No, they don't. They need to get rid of MF gear swapping for killing blow. Removing NV stacks for changing gear is one good way to do it. It'd also be so easy to add a 2-5 minute delay before MF on gear activates, but since MF gear doesn't work on chests anymore that wouldn't even be necessary.

They really should add a "lock equipment" button... and obv also a quick skill lock button so you don't have to toggle elective mode on/off.

I don't understand why so adamantly against MF switching. For one thing once your main character is well geared, piecing together a good magic set is another thing to do that's fun. There's more skill involved in not dying to AoE during the switch than the fight itself.

A problem with that is it would suck when you do actually find a piece of gear and want to use it. Imagine you find a killer new weapon halfway through a run and you can't equip it because it would make you lose neph valor. i think a gear cool down like you have on changing skill would be reasonable though.

I'm not so adamant against the switching part, though I do find it pretty ridiculous and if given the choice, I would have it removed. I dislike that it adversely affects others in the same party. Why should my refusal to switch screw everyone else out of 10% MF on boss kills? If I am willing to sacrifice a few % for the convenience of not having to switch, my party has to eat 3/4 of that And likewise, I dislike that other people's dual sets screws me out of MF on clearing trash. If they only want high MF on elites/bosses, they're welcome to do that. But I like still rares dropping on trash and having an average of like 60 MF doesn't really help. There are other reasons why I think the averaging system is a terrible idea (public games, playing with non-farming friends, etc), but they're not really pertinent to the discussion of gear swapping.

How much does MF affect drops? Any data on it? Seems awfully cumbersome to do so everytime you kill a pack, in D2 people just swapped weapons because there was a hotkey -- dont know anyone that actually swapped whole sets of eq; but that's probably due to the average MF being much higher and monsters were easy enough to kill with good MF gear already.

it is literally too hot where I live now to play diablo 3. like my computer is okay for a few minutes but can't cool efficiently so it starts to visibly slow down after like 5 minutes.

I've now officially crossed the line of Diablo 3 Hardcore degenerate.

My power goes out a ton during the summer due to brown outs and random power issues. Power going out + hardcore is not a good idea. It's pretty much guaranteed death.

I caved in and bought a UPS (I used work as an excuse too of course). If anyone is curious about UPSs, drop a question. I researched them pretty heavily.