Shieeeet! 5 hours doesn't sound like much but it's getting purchased anyway cheers.

I'd say 5 hrs is a conservative estimate, and if you have more than one character you'll get more than your money's worth.

I've beat it with my original character, and still have Manus and Kalameet to beat on my SL1 character and my no shield character.

Also, the Oolacile township still seems very busy for co-op and invasions (on PS3 anyway), never have to wait more than a minute after putting my sign down.

Planning a Moonlight Greatsword wielding sorcerer build for my next playthough. Intend to equip a shield no heaver than 3lbs and a catalyst ldo. Again trying to decide what ring/armour combination to go with.

My current character is a light-armoured backstabber with a Pyromancy Glove +15. One problem I've had is that I'm interrupted easily when casting spells. I've been killed several times through stunlocking while casting or even in melee combat. I'm using the FAP ring so have the capacity to equip some poise-boosting armour while remaining <25%.

My sorcerer would be attacking from range so is the interrupt issue less of a problem? Or should I try too boost its poise? Calcs show that if I want to stay under 25%, it's impossible to have a meaningful amount of poise without putting a lot of points into endurance or using FAP/Havel's ring. But there are soome good rings for Sorcerers that I wouldn't like to give up. So an alternative would be to equip armour that puts me in 25-50% load but then swap rings cheerfully.

You really don't need rings for sorcery imo, some of the spells are so overpowered already its insane...

Take off the FAP ring, put a few levels into End and Vit, slap on havels ring and equip yourself a couple of heavy armor pieces along with your regular armor imo

Increasing your dex would help with casting time too but the boost is negligible unless ur already going for a dex-int type thing...

That or consider some faster sorceries? Which ones are you using?

I haven't started playing the sorcerer yet. My interrupt problems and concern about poise are based on my experience of playing a thief-like character who also uses pyro.

Interesting that you advocate havels over FAP and also recommend wearing some heavier armor for a sorcerer. I'm guessing you want to wear some poise-boosting pieces while staying under 25% load? I've realized that FAP isn't really enough to stay under 25% while having a meaningful amount of poise unless you put over 30 points into endurance.

5 hours is a conservative estimate if you don't include the 1001 times you'll die against the bosses.

I managed to accidentally attack the guy at the church, lol me, luckily I'm close to the end of NG+.

The bosses in NG+ have been a lot easier than I expected, but I've also been able to take advantage of pursuers and dark bead, which came from the DLC. Also, knowing what to do in each area obviously makes NG+ so much easier.

Personally I think it's a lot more interesting to start a fresh NG run with a completely different build. In NG+ you're basically going to be playing the same way as you were before.

You don't really have to. Dark Souls is sort of weird in that the build doesn't determine the way you play as much as the equipment you use, so basically if you're running a quality build (str 27/28 dex 40) you have the access to most of the weapons in game, so there's nothing to stop you from going ninjaflip/spear on the first approach and medium roll/zweihander on the second go. Add 30 faith into the mix or even 16 int (shame you can't get both and go for 40 end 50 vit with SL <120) and you've got some nice weapon buffs and utility spells. I strongly recommend this approach for your first character, because you get to try out most of the stuff the game has to offer.

Running a completely different build makes sense if you really know what you're doing and want to make a very specialized character, as in pure 50 INT caster or something like that.

The problem with NG+ for me is the fact that it's actually significantly easier than NG, because with 50 vit the enemies still don't kill you in one hit meaning you can estus and have infinite HP as long as the flask isn't empty and you do way more damage to them. Basically, you need to receive roughly the same punishment to actually go out, but you kill everything at least 2-3 times quicker and it gets absolutely ridiculous with +15 sunlight blade buffed high-dps weapons like balder side sword or even falchion.

Eh, I'd say a lot of the fun comes from experimenting with something new. If you've played a str build in your first playthrough, it's interesting to do something radically different like playing a sorcerer and seeing how it develops and how your playstyle changes. It's harder to make the transition in NG+ as you will have few points in INT and probably haven't bought many spells.

Yeah, but casters are an exception to the rule - you need 50 int to have a nice pure caster, but then again I think playing that kind of character gets old pretty quick. Str/Dex/Int and Str/Dex/Fai offer the most versatility and you really can switch some stuff up on the fly, especially if you farm twinkling titanite to get some easy upgrades going on. I guess my point was you could incorporate completely different playstyles into a single build, sorry if I failed to communicate that well enough.

What I really hate about this game though is the number of titanite slabs you can get on a single playthrough without farming New Londo - I mean I know you could still get +14 crystal weapons and constantly downgrade them to +10 to repair them and get the same damage, but it's still a lot of effort and you're still limited to like 3 +15 normal weapons per run. Sort of sucks when you want to try different weapon movesets and whatnot.

As far as experiments go, I recommend running a 66 str build for anyone who hasn't tried playing a strength character yet. Basically, if you 2h your weapon you get maximum scaling as the game counts your str as 99, I guess you could even add great magic weapon with oolacile catalyst for more oomph. Scoring a hornet's ring riposte on a black phantom with this build is absolutely hilarious.

I want to start a new char, but I did have a lot of fun playing through NG+, even though it was a lot easier.

I haven't done much pvp yet though, and I want to do some on this char before I start a new one. I know that people can invade you if they are 10 levels above or infinitely below, but how does it determine who they match you up with? Should I expect to get invaded less now that I'm level 146? All the bosses are dead except for Gwyn and Manus, so I can only get invaded in the DLC (which seems like invade city) or, I guess, the forest or dark Anor Londo? I also would have to finish the game to get more Red Eye Orbs (only have 12).

Artdogg - if you want to PvP on this char, I'd advise running in the human form and invading as a Darkmoon Blade as they have no SL restrictions and can invade both up and down the SL ladder. Darkwraiths typically shouldn't go above SL120-125 because it's the unofficial level cap for PvP characters. If you go above that, the number of people you can fight against decreases dramatically and basically best you can hope for is getting invaded in a high-traffic area. Many people choose not to advance past SL 100-110 to get the most action.

The best places to invade/get invaded are the Anor Londo cathedral, Darkroot forest and the area below the Moonlight Butterfly tower, Kiln and Oolacile Township. Sen's Fortress is also awesome to invade in if you know your way around the map, but you probably want a separate SL40-45 character for that.

For those that has beat the game and looking for a new challenge i recommend this.



I also recommend this from the same tuber.

vageta's vids are the nuts.

also, i'm doing a lot of duels in oolacile township SL 125, find my summon sign or do some invasions and you'll probably find me.

i'm a grim reaper lookin bro with a gargoyle helm

heh, haven't done any duels yet, but I did do a lot of invasions/got invaded at the township a few nights ago

funny thing is, when I use a red eye orb it actually induced someone to invade me 90% of the time (instead of me invading someone else), probably the same effect as the eye of death?

I will try the other pvp spots as well. Unfortunately my character was a pure caster for a while, which, at least for me, sucked for pvp, and I didn't get the Moonlight Greatsword until I was over lvl 130.

So I've been playing Demon's Souls cause I just couldn't help myself. Before talking about the game too much, I'm just wondering if the game starts over like Dark Souls after you finish 5-3 (assuming 1 through 5-2 is complete). Is there more and does it start you from the beginning immediately after you beat it like Dark Souls?

No the last boss is in 1-4. You'll then have to do something in the Nexus before it throws you into NG+, at the start of 1-1 (you don't play the tutorial again).

There is 1 more area after you have beaten all bosses(level as much as you can before fighting the last boss if you plan on playing ng+) and yes when you beat the game you start over.

You dont have to do 1-4 last.

Thanks guys, good to know. When I first started Demons I wasn't planning on doing NG+, but this one has hooked me almost as much as Dark Souls, will post a comparison soon, interested in seeing how you guys compare the two.

sputnik - when you say level up as much as you can, do you mean use all your souls since you can't level up for a bit in NG+, or level up because enemies are much harder in NG+, and they don't give triple the souls like in Dark?

Btw, the monk fight might be the most epic thing in gaming history. Funny thing is I didn't know I was fighting a PC for the first fights until I got (and beat) the NPC. First fight was an epic battle, both of us used a bunch of healing/mana items (I was like wtf, a boss that heals with no pattern to it, and regens too). Second fight I died before getting there (lol me). Third fight he owned me, dodged my magic and just stood there until I was dumb enough to go up and melee. Fourth I finally got the NPC, who was all up in my grill but didn't hit me much.

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Can anyone help me cut off Kalameet's tail?

I'm SL50.

He's giving me hell... Ty

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Finally cut off the tail!

The obsidian greatsword absolutely wrecks at low levels, awesome sword.