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03-13-2012 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Lahey
If you feel like you just can't beat this game, I would grind out a lightning claymore +5. Just spam it two handed and it will rip through bosses.
This right here I think is my least favorite part about the game. It seems like the most powerful weapon is the easiest to get and doesn't require stat scaling. Why build a str, dex, int, or faith char w/ a str, dex, int, and/or faith scaled weapon, when you can make a lightning weapon for more dmg and put all your points into vit/end?

(note: Beat the game with a str-based char, now doing int. Doing these because they're fun and I'm wishing these better lightning weapons didn't exist.)
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03-13-2012 , 11:35 PM
Oh hey guys here's a tip for beating Seath.

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It's a lot easier if you break the thing at the back of the room so you can damage him.


He was a breeze after that. Going to Demon's Ruins now. Been a while so I don't remember the world layout entirely - what is the quickest way to get there/which bonfire should I warp to?
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03-14-2012 , 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dibbs
It just amazes me you can beat bosses like Quelaag where unstoppable aoe attacks will rip through someone with light armor and it's not like you're gonna be doing crit attacks on her.
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Queelags AOE is easily predictable and she has a long recovery time after her lava spitting attack. This is the time where you can melee her for most damage.


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AOE attacks in general in this game drive me nuts, playing my knight again and take on Nito and his AOE is like 95% unavoidable in the area without the big skeletons, it says online you just have to be a few yards back but I could be so far away and it still binks me with my shield up.

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You are doing it wrong if you try to fight Nito in the back where the big skellies are. At the beginning wait for the 4 little skellies to rush you and kill them with a divine weapon so they wont be revived by Nito, then wait for Nito to come. His AOE is also super easy predictable as it takes very very long.

Last edited by toberg13; 03-14-2012 at 06:32 AM.
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03-14-2012 , 08:42 AM
A big mistake a lot of people make during boss fights is staying locked on the entire time. This will really limit your movement and make it very difficult to maneuver yourself behind the boss. Being not locked on and fully sprinting around bosses is a big part of my strategy. If you're locked on and just strafing or rolling to the side, most bosses will be able to keep up with you and it's hard to get shots in on them. For a lot of boss fights I think it's best to not lock on at all.
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03-14-2012 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mongo13clikke
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You are doing it wrong if you try to fight Nito in the back where the big skellies are. At the beginning wait for the 4 little skellies to rush you and kill them with a divine weapon so they wont be revived by Nito, then wait for Nito to come. His AOE is also super easy predictable as it takes very very long.
Yea kept him in the front, and I'd spriiiint to get away from the thing down the right hallway to avoid big skellies but would get nailed most of the time so said **** it threw on stone armor and just blocked it and hacked away.

I'm a fish point #327- Wasted twinkling titanite getting a silver knight spear to +2 because it sounded important for the tomb and especially Nito, it killed those three skellies well enough but blech what a waste. Oh yea apparently I wasted twinkling twitanite on getting the sword of atorias up to +1 for the same reason before I figured out I wasn't faithful enough to use the thing.
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03-15-2012 , 05:39 AM
decided i reget selling this game too much gonna buy a second hand copy today

last time i played it i had a pyromancer, and once i upgraded my pyromancy so much i was kind of a tank.

i'm thinking a light character this time though. i needed to wear that ring to make my character lighter through the last playthrough and even then he was a bit slow.

i also used the drake sword. is the game really possible without during early stages? lmao. what's a sword you can get early and upgrade steadily throughout with a light-ish character maybe a thief or something?

anyway i'm just rambling now, any thoughts?
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03-15-2012 , 07:54 AM
You can kill the merchant in the Parish and he drops the Uchigatana. I'm a big fan of weapons tha do bleeding damage.
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03-15-2012 , 09:02 AM
So I 'finished' Skyrim last week, and what with seeing this thread bumped, I decided to pop Dark Souls back in after a 3 month break. Holy balls this game is good. Easily my best game of 2011. Yes, I thought Skyrim was the immortal nuts for the first week, but the shine quickly wore off.

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Originally Posted by LOL POT-ODDS
decided i reget selling this game too much gonna buy a second hand copy today

last time i played it i had a pyromancer, and once i upgraded my pyromancy so much i was kind of a tank.

i'm thinking a light character this time though. i needed to wear that ring to make my character lighter through the last playthrough and even then he was a bit slow.

i also used the drake sword. is the game really possible without during early stages? lmao. what's a sword you can get early and upgrade steadily throughout with a light-ish character maybe a thief or something?

anyway i'm just rambling now, any thoughts?
I'm now doing 2 new simultaneous playthroughs, a Sorcerer and a Pyromancer. My first guy was a high dex/archer build, and I used spears and the Uchi almost exclusively. Now I'm forcing myself not to use anything I used on my first character. So no Drake Sword and no Master key, and no dex weapons.

I'm about level 25 and have beaten Capra, Gargoyles, Butterfly and Gaping Dragon with both characters. Pyro has the weapon he starts with, the hand axe, upgraded to +5, and I'm using a +5 Warpick with the Sorcerer. Obviously it's been harder than with the Drake Sword, but it's far from impossible.

As Jim Lahey says, Merchant in Undead Burg drops the Uchi when killed (make sure you buy the Residence Key from him first) and there's an Iaito in Blightown. However as long as you're cautious and not a complete spaz, any weapon will suffice to get you through the early stages.

And if you are wanting a nimble character, google 'dark wood grain ring'. Best ring in the game imo.
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03-15-2012 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Baintz
And if you are wanting a nimble character, google 'dark wood grain ring'. Best ring in the game imo.
Be aware that this ring does not make you move faster or roll faster. Many say it does but it just changes animations for running and rolling, the flip time is exactly as long as the normal rolling time, also the different running animation is just a gimmick...
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03-15-2012 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mongo13clikke
Be aware that this ring does not make you move faster or roll faster. Many say it does but it just changes animations for running and rolling, the flip time is exactly as long as the normal rolling time, also the different running animation is just a gimmick...
This is incorrect. There are three levels of speed in the game depending on your equip load. Above 50% you are slow and cannot roll. Below 50% equip load you move faster and can roll. Below 25% equip load you move and roll even faster. The ring has zero effect on anything if your equip load is above 50%, but if it is below 50%, it lets you move as if your equip load is under 25%.
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03-15-2012 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Lahey
This is incorrect. There are three levels of speed in the game depending on your equip load. Above 50% you are slow and cannot roll. Below 50% equip load you move faster and can roll. Below 25% equip load you move and roll even faster. The ring has zero effect on anything if your equip load is above 50%, but if it is below 50%, it lets you move as if your equip load is under 25%.
I know, my bad I assumed these facts are known, I just wanted to say the ring does not make you somehow magically faster than anything else than the standard movement speeds that themeselve rely on the equip load.
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03-15-2012 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LOL POT-ODDS
i also used the drake sword. is the game really possible without during early stages? lmao. what's a sword you can get early and upgrade steadily throughout with a light-ish character maybe a thief or something?

anyway i'm just rambling now, any thoughts?
I've used the claymore a couple of times now. I really like it. The swing has good reach and the heavy attack is a thrust, good for corridors. Upgraded to +5 lightning, it's pretty bad-ass.

It's on a body on the bridge with the dragon.
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03-15-2012 , 12:32 PM
How do you take a normal weapon to a lightning weapon? The only lightning weapon I have in the spear I found in Sen's Fortress (I think) that came that way.
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03-15-2012 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
How do you take a normal weapon to a lightning weapon? The only lightning weapon I have in the spear I found in Sen's Fortress (I think) that came that way.
Make it +10 and go to anor londo giant blacksmith. Does not requite any ember.
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03-15-2012 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fiskebent
I've used the claymore a couple of times now. I really like it. The swing has good reach and the heavy attack is a thrust, good for corridors. Upgraded to +5 lightning, it's pretty bad-ass.

It's on a body on the bridge with the dragon.
Claymore has probably one of the best movesets in the game for pvp, most people cant handle a twohanded rolling R2 attack.
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03-15-2012 , 04:56 PM
went with a Bandit strength build instead lulz

got the Zweihander and been tearing through the first few bosses. Got it to +5 pretty quick now i'm easily one shotting most enemies.

gonna add lightning to it when i can.

I heard that the latest patch made lightning less powerful tho? can any1 confirm this pls
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03-16-2012 , 04:14 AM
Got only slightly nerfed, from Eurogamer, look under Upgrade Changes:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...released-notes
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03-16-2012 , 08:43 AM
Anyone tried the GreatAxe?

I've got enough strength to use it (32) But I was wondering how it will fare with upgrading and acension when compared to my Zweihander +5

Ty
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03-16-2012 , 05:24 PM
If you're going heavy dex or str you want to use a weapon that gets the S modifier and upgrade to +15. Otherwise a lightning/fire or chaos is best if you're going to have like 20 humanity levels. People just go lightning, because it's the easiest to get early.
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03-16-2012 , 08:20 PM
getting raped in new londo by the ghosts, so so tilting.

managed to kill a few, got some more transient curses and reached the merchant on the roof but i keep trying to just speed through everywhere...

only doing it to try and get the very large ember. please tell me i'm in the right place? lol
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03-20-2012 , 10:20 AM
Damn you guys had me terrified of Crystal Cave. Don't get me wrong I died a few times but thought it was going to be moving invisible platforms and guys sniping at you all the while. Didn't fall off the invisible platforms once, Sens was way harder imo.

Beat four kings and Seath, gotta kill Gywn, I don't want it to be over
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03-20-2012 , 10:38 AM
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Damn you guys had me terrified of Crystal Cave. Don't get me wrong I died a few times but thought it was going to be moving invisible platforms and guys sniping at you all the while. Didn't fall off the invisible platforms once, Sens was way harder imo.

Beat four kings and Seath, gotta kill Gywn, I don't want it to be over
NG+ is your friend

that's the great thing about this game, there's so many different things that can happen on each playthrough
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03-20-2012 , 12:32 PM
So I played through once with a strength-based character. Final weapon was/is a +14 great club, damage in the mid 600's. I can't seem to come up with any weapons that would substantially increase damage from this. Aside from minor stuff like switching to a demon greataxe (just slightly better) and getting the titanite slab, it seems like I've pretty much maxed out on damage. Is NG+ then just not that much harder? What's the point if I can't improve the character any more really?
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03-20-2012 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by saw7988
So I played through once with a strength-based character. Final weapon was/is a +14 great club, damage in the mid 600's. I can't seem to come up with any weapons that would substantially increase damage from this. Aside from minor stuff like switching to a demon greataxe (just slightly better) and getting the titanite slab, it seems like I've pretty much maxed out on damage. Is NG+ then just not that much harder? What's the point if I can't improve the character any more really?
you could try pyromancy or magic or maybe pour some souls into dexterity and try using bows?

also i think the enemies get tougher on NG+ though i can't confirm.

i'm using a strength build atm too. currently upgrading demon greataxe though i do have a soft spot for my lightning zweihander (its a beast)

edit: as i'm sure you know, some weapons scale with strength so if you up your strength to level 99 (i think thats the highest) then those weapons will improve too

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03-20-2012 , 03:08 PM
Lightning zweihander must mow people down. Wishing I had that instead of a lightning claymore for gwyn as the reach feels lacking for him.

Supposedly most enemies HP is doubled in NG+ and is more difficult in general not sure how wiki is gauging that though.
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