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11-28-2014 , 03:54 PM
Lol idc if I lose skins on that game. That was hilarious wtf
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11-28-2014 , 04:16 PM
Never occurred to these guys that this might not be well received?

My guess is the fnatic organization is not happy. Now everyone hates them.
Rumor is that a youtuber found this and fnatic asked them to keep it under wraps so they could exploit errr I mean use it.

Not only is there no ledge in hammer there, but you can see through walls(into t spawn):http://i.imgur.com/jrd6fDK.jpg

At the very least they should replay the 2nd half. At worst fnatic should lose enough rounds for a loss or even be DQed.
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11-28-2014 , 04:44 PM
i tried to bet on this navi match on csgo lounge and it told me the queue was full or some nonsense, does that mean they won't accept any more bets?
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11-28-2014 , 04:54 PM
New to cs. Dumb question but during these big tourneys the audience is right by the players and there are huge screens so the audience can see. How can they stop the teams and coaches or whoever are behind them from looking at the screens to see where their opponents are etc?
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11-28-2014 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CheckRaise
i tried to bet on this navi match on csgo lounge and it told me the queue was full or some nonsense, does that mean they won't accept any more bets?
They need bots to hold the items and have a certain number of bots.

Once those bot's inventories are full they can't take any more items. They are always full during events(or even right before any matches really).

You have to donate $2 to get access to donor bots for a month that aren't always full.
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11-28-2014 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by YeahYou
New to cs. Dumb question but during these big tourneys the audience is right by the players and there are huge screens so the audience can see. How can they stop the teams and coaches or whoever are behind them from looking at the screens to see where their opponents are etc?
The big screens are in front of the players/coachs and they basically can't see them. There was some debate that people in the audience could signal to the players what they see (ie: ring twice on a player's cellphone if the terrorists go A, once if they go B), but they made everyone remove their phones before entering the arena this time.

I guess gestures could still be possible though.

Ridiculous exploit by fnatic. Everyone already had their eyes on them for all the cheats accusations, and then they do that. The entire scene is saying it's bad, not cs, not fair etc. Even f0rest (arguably the most experience player still around) said it's ridiculous and they should replay the map.

I'm hoping for a disqualification, but probably won't happen. A rematch would be fine I guess.
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11-28-2014 , 06:14 PM
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11-28-2014 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJacob
They need bots to hold the items and have a certain number of bots.

Once those bot's inventories are full they can't take any more items. They are always full during events(or even right before any matches really).

You have to donate $2 to get access to donor bots for a month that aren't always full.
queue full means theres too many people asking for thebots at same time. if you keep spamming you can get in sometimes. when bots are all full(like during esl) they post bots full in red letters and close the action. but yea donor bots help alot at busy times.
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11-28-2014 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sedeete
The big screens are in front of the players/coachs and they basically can't see them. There was some debate that people in the audience could signal to the players what they see (ie: ring twice on a player's cellphone if the terrorists go A, once if they go B), but they made everyone remove their phones before entering the arena this time.

I guess gestures could still be possible though.

Ridiculous exploit by fnatic. Everyone already had their eyes on them for all the cheats accusations, and then they do that. The entire scene is saying it's bad, not cs, not fair etc. Even f0rest (arguably the most experience player still around) said it's ridiculous and they should replay the map.

I'm hoping for a disqualification, but probably won't happen. A rematch would be fine I guess.
I just saw an overhead view and I see that they can't see the screens. As you said someone in the audience can hold up 1 finger for A or 2 for B etc. I guess they think having a live audience draws more money or whatever so it outweighs this problem.
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11-28-2014 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJacob
They need bots to hold the items and have a certain number of bots.

Once those bot's inventories are full they can't take any more items. They are always full during events(or even right before any matches really).

You have to donate $2 to get access to donor bots for a month that aren't always full.
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queue full means theres too many people asking for thebots at same time. if you keep spamming you can get in sometimes. when bots are all full(like during esl) they post bots full in red letters and close the action. but yea donor bots help alot at busy times.
thanks guys, too bad i didn't get that bet in on Navi
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11-28-2014 , 08:17 PM
from hltv.org forums....

not my words:
First let me say that fnatic should have contacted DH/Valve/whoever to report this because it's clearly giving a tremendous advantage and it just makes the game stupid

Many of you continue saying that what olofm/krimz did was pixel walking, and let me explain why it's not

That screenshot circling around (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3jW0PMCUAEJ5yj.jpg:large) means absolutely nothing. This screenshot only illustrates the internal architecture of the wall, which the players obviously have no knowledge of. When you're playing a map and you see a ledge, you assume that it is a ledge. You don't go into a map editor to confirm that it is indeed a ledge.

Pixel walking is standing or walking on something which clearly SHOULDN'T BE STOOD OR WALKED ON IN OUR PHYSICAL WORLD (i.e a vertical wall)

What's important is that what krimz stood on LOOKS LIKE A LEDGE. Had krimz stood on something which had the appearance of a vertical wall, then this would indeed be pixel walking

Essentially if you're saying that this is exploiting via pixel walking, you're saying that players shouldn't treat objects in the game as what they appear to be.

The true issue is that Valve didn't put the correct texture on that wall. They should have put the texture of a vertical wall and not a ledge, since that's obviously what their architecture of the wall implies.

Examples of pixel walking:
http://i.imgur.com/FW1DdII.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3jk_6lCAAAANLS.jpg:large
(notice these players are standing on an object which OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SOMETHING WHICH YOU CAN STAND ON, A VERTICAL WALL)

Not an example of pixel walking:
http://i.gyazo.com/65847484d68234594c30d845eb034f3..
(notice krimz is standing on a texture which clearly APPEARS TO BE A LEDGE)

Basically, it doesn't matter if technically there is no ledge there. From the player's perspective, there is a ledge there, and they are only trusting that Valve put the correct texture on that wall. All krimz did was trust that this object which clearly appears to be a ledge, is actually a ledge, and that sounds reasonable to me.

If you agree that what olof/krimz did was pixel walking, then you inherently also agree that for each object players stand on, they are responsible for confirming that the architecture which is presented in game is its true internal architecture.
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11-28-2014 , 08:30 PM
Well that's immediately wrong just because that thing NiP is standing on is a slanted wall. Didn't bother to read the rest. The amount of misinformation presented as fact on reddit and such is ridiculous on almost everything in this game.

Last edited by Krayz; 11-28-2014 at 08:42 PM.
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11-28-2014 , 09:05 PM
Placed some bets on NiP for tomorrow's game. Fak it.
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11-28-2014 , 09:19 PM
same. parlaying that navi win onto navi again, think they got a decent shot vs either team
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11-28-2014 , 09:20 PM
BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE

Admins decision : 12-3 restart. @FNATIC are filling a complain against us now. So the final decision isn't final. Good night. Rip CS:GO.
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11-28-2014 , 10:00 PM
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BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE

Admins decision : 12-3 restart. @FNATIC are filling a complain against us now. So the final decision isn't final. Good night. Rip CS:GO.
Not so fast. Fnatic has filed a complaint of their own against a boost ldlc used.


@DreamHack: Final decision. LDLC vs Fnatic last map Overpass will be replayed due to texture transparency and immortal bug used by both teams."

Last edited by LetMeLive; 11-28-2014 at 10:16 PM.
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11-28-2014 , 10:22 PM
lmao must be nice to cheat and get a bad first half erased
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11-28-2014 , 10:31 PM
Semmler ‏@OnFireSemmler
Overpass will be played out between @FNATIC and @TeamLDLCCSGO after the first semi tmrw afternoon.
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11-28-2014 , 10:41 PM
Fnatic will just stoop to anything to win.

Replaying from 12-3 is more than generous for them IMO. They already get to replay pistol.

Shox is saying he doesn't even want to play now and I don't blame him. Its close to 4am and they are still awake and having to deal with this.

Hopefully they let them play this after the first semifinal.
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11-28-2014 , 11:36 PM
hopefully csgolounge has no shame and relists the game for maximal ldlc fanboy butthurt.
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11-29-2014 , 05:55 AM
Truly disgusting decision. I mean, replaying from 13-3 would have been SOMEWHAT acceptable but replaying the entire map is ridic. Fnatic having the guts to counter-complaint on the LDLC boost which is nowhere near the exploit they were using is saying a lot about the mentality of this team.

I think right now the entire scene hates them. I haven't seen a single positive tweet towards them (I follow both fnatic & LDLC team members pretty much equally), all the other pros (nip, c9, etc.) are disgusted for LDLC.

I'm still hoping for a last minute change of mind, or a boycott of some sort by the players, but I don't think it's going to happen.

I'm going to watch the game, hopefully the entire room will boo fnatic as they walk onto the stage and cheer for every single kill from LDLC. Let's go boys.
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11-29-2014 , 09:05 AM
15-15

R U NOT ENTERTAINED?
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11-29-2014 , 09:21 AM
POLSKA! double OT :P
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11-29-2014 , 09:34 AM
DreamHack @DreamHack · 4m 4 minutes ago

Fnatic has given an official forfeit in the match against LDLC. LDLC is playing the semi final against Na’Vi at 16:30 CET


I guess community pressure....

GG
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11-29-2014 , 09:50 AM
Hacknatic has been irrefutably exposed.
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