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03-29-2015 , 02:35 PM
Well sh*t I have a chalice 3rd floor boss I need to beat after leveling up, a boss by the prison I need to beat after leveling up, and now I have another headstone active to go to an area I am not sure I am supposed to be in yet lol...too much to do and so lost on the order!

On a side note I was close to leveling up and needed to sell an item when I noticed this
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Selling the doll armor gives you like 35k. The doll armor stats are horrible so either that is what it is for or you can upgrade it later making it a mistake to sell it...fk it I used the coin to level up a few times


Up to abut level 47 now and not sure what stats I should be upgrading outside of vitality/endurance....HERE we go!
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03-29-2015 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Xss
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Good call with the headstone, I didn't realize you could use them.

Atm i have 13 insights and haven't done any chalice dungeon and the mobs in the cathedral ward are the same, i'll test a bit to see if it changes.
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Wait so how did you wind up in the prison?
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03-29-2015 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by spimp13
I'm at about a level 37 I think (taking a break now). I bought a sword for 20k and leveled it up a bit.
That's probably the sword that I found (well, "found" the badge that lets you buy it) that I really like.
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03-29-2015 , 05:20 PM
Weird, I thought all the chalice dungeons have 4 layers? Finished 3 on my first one with no where to go. I'm at level 53 now after going deep in the forbidden woods. I had 45 echoes and was a pussy and warped back because I'm at a spot where it is high up lol. I also have 32 insight with like 8 I could gain yikes.
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03-29-2015 , 06:28 PM
Power of the google, 3 layers in the chalice dungeons. I assume each one you create is random and naturally gets harder.

I'm at the forbidden woods now, damn this place is huge and easy to get lost...no clue where to go even though I just found a big time saving shortcut which will help get back to that late area I am lost in.

One thing I have noticed is there isn't anywhere near the same amount of weaons in this game so it is sort of difficult to know which stats to build on for my guy outside of the common sense vitality/endurance. I've been putting some in strength and have skill at 22 but cuting back I think on that since I haven't seen any weapons that require high skill (yet). So far though this has been a very fun game, looking forward to doing chalice dungeon two and going back to fight the prison either regular or optional boss now that I am leveled up a bit more.
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03-29-2015 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
That's probably the sword that I found (well, "found" the badge that lets you buy it) that I really like.
Yeah I have leveled that sword up to the point it needs 3 chunks. It hits fairly hard on its secondary even though it's slow. I like to mix it up between that and my saw weapon I found....still surprised to not finding really anything else outside of a couple of badge weapons.
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03-29-2015 , 07:46 PM
Yeah the forbidden woods is an ******* for sure. After being stuck on that LOL boss fight for a day or so I'm progressing nicely - just took down
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The One Reborn
or whatever. Had a helper but felt this fight was very, very easy.

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Nightmare of Menis or whatever - not so easy on the other hand.
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03-29-2015 , 08:37 PM
Yeah I tried to summon but my bell must have been broke lol. I was lucky though and got it on the 2nd try.
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I made sure to take out the aggressive swordsman first which made it easier and then saved the slow fire thrower for last.

Level 58 now with 37 insight time to try an earlier prison electric boss again now that I have been lifting weights

Just tried and he still messed me up but got him down to half
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03-29-2015 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by spimp13
Is anyone else not very good at the whole stun/major damage move and focusing more on trying to dodge because they take too much damage by miss timing this move? I have a feeling it will become crucial later in the game.
Yeah, it's really powerful and not all that hard to pull off but i'm ~dead if i blow it because the enemies i'd bother to use it on hit so hard.

I failed on a guy with a red-glowing cross/trident and I got "frenzy". Which is apparently a type of poisoning? Not sure but it drained my health and killed me (i'm pretty sure).


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Cleric Beast Slaughtered! Damn I am more pleased with myself than I have any right to be. lol what a game.
woot!
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03-30-2015 , 12:24 AM
Anyone else unlocked the fourth headstone at the Dream yet? Just did that today and explored the area you unlock minimally before being like "I don't think I belong here yet" lol.

Forbidden Woods:

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seems awful, bad layout, reallllly long, everything looks the same, I honestly don't know why the snake things (not the transforming dudes but the small, slow ones) even exist because they do ~nothing. I almost never ever do this but I wound up kinda sprinting through the last part to get to the boss cause I was so done with it. Then the boss fight seemed really really hard.

On the bright side I did finally kill Vicar Amelia after failing to summon help for 10 minutes. Anyone else feel like Cathedral Ward looks different afterwards? I kinda didn't recognize it or thought it felt funny walking away from the lantern after that. I should look up YouTube videos or something to compare.
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03-30-2015 , 02:50 AM
Agree completely wrt Forbidden Woods. Think I finally got them down but it wasn't very enjoyable.

I've got 3 or 4 areas unlocked on the fourth headstone and they're all pretty rough.

Coop has been working very well today for me it seems. Joined/had people joining with no problem and got invaded 3 times, went 2-1.

I changed the ingame setting under network to "Worldwide" instead of "Local". No clue if that has anything to do with it or not.
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03-30-2015 , 05:16 AM
So, i was trying to do this game spoiler and guide free but i'm stuck at work thinking about the game and couldn't help googling.

Insight (minor/technical spoiler but trying to talk lore):
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More insight makes the game harder. More insight means enemies have more moves, hit harder, and have equipment upgrades. Maybe I shouldn't have used all those madman's knowledges instantly...

How does this make sense from a lore perspective? Here's what the game says: The Insight stat represents the depth of inhuman knowledge. Needed to ring special bell, but induces frenzy.

And madman's knowledge: Skull of a madman touched by the wisdom of the Great Ones.

Use to gain Insight.

Making contact with eldritch wisdom is a blessing, for even if it drives one mad, it allows one to serve a grander purpose, for posterity


So the more insight we have, the more insane we're going? Are we becoming "less human" and that's why enemies fight us more desperately? So far I've only noticed that the masked dudes in the Cathedral Ward as being tougher. Most noticeably their lanterns now fire annoying and deadly homing magic at me (i have 26 insight and just beat the blood-starved beast). These dudes seems to be agents of the Church, which combats the beast plague. Maybe their weapons only track beasts and previously I only counted as human but now I've edged closer to a beast on the human/beat scale so the weapons track me?

I'm playing offline but apparently co-oping decreases your insight. Maybe connecting with another human being makes you more human and less insane? Like what happens with sailors who are out at sea for a long time?
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03-30-2015 , 10:16 AM
Father Gascoigne - PREY SLAUGHTERED!

Took me a good few tries, probably 10-12... The successful run was a little bit cheesey, which didn't make me particularly happy but I'll take it lol! Many of the attempts I did several perfect pistol-stun / eviscerates, which wreck him hard - but he managed to get the best of me due to my failing one or two. My slightly cheese run I didn't stun him at all.

cheese:

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I kept him target locked most of the time, and always made sure there were a clump of tombstones between us so he can't advance straight at me. he'll spam his weapon at the tombstones (which can hit you if you're not careful!), when he does move in and spam axe myself. When he transforms, spam molotovs and finish him quick since he's very dangerous in his beast form


Due to power of the playstation share button I have nice videos of both my boss battles so far, might upload them and link here if anyone would view them.

I also got 7 blood shards and maxed out my blood vial storage killing the enemies along the way to him so many times, so that's pretty nice
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03-30-2015 , 10:53 AM
Using the environment properly is not cheese imo.
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03-30-2015 , 12:55 PM
Ok...so last night I had a first for a death. Did anyone have this happen to them?

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Got to an area by the cathedral just outside the boss fight area where I tried to go through a door and a spirit hand picked me up and killed me in mid air lol. Maybe I am not ready for that area yet (even though I just got an item that seems like it might be required for there so I may go back and try again.


It was a very successful session yesterday and just the overall weekend. I don't have the 4th headstone started yet so I am wondering if I am doing areas out of order which is possible. I was able to go back and kill the prison boss area, as well as the forbidden woods boss. I am now ready for Byrgenwerth I think unless I missed areas within the other three headstones which is possible (including the one in the spoiler area). I'm at level 57 now with like 32ish insight and 8 more I could use but I hesitate.

I also have had 2 instances where doing the summon bell brought no one so I "think" they need to be in your friends list for it to work? If so add me spimp13 and I will also help if I can for a boss fight.
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03-30-2015 , 01:33 PM
I tried it twice as well but nothing happened.
Don't think they need to be on your friends list but not sure about that.
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03-30-2015 , 02:29 PM
Insight spoiler

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This video shows a couple of enemies at different levels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cKEM7NuyQw



So basically since I like challenge in games I am not going to remove insight most likely as it will make the game easier. I may not add much more insight unless I feel it is too easy as I don't want to miss out on things like the 2nd link.
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03-30-2015 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by spimp13
Ok...so last night I had a first for a death. Did anyone have this happen to them?

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Got to an area by the cathedral just outside the boss fight area where I tried to go through a door and a spirit hand picked me up and killed me in mid air lol. Maybe I am not ready for that area yet (even though I just got an item that seems like it might be required for there so I may go back and try again.


It was a very successful session yesterday and just the overall weekend. I don't have the 4th headstone started yet so I am wondering if I am doing areas out of order which is possible. I was able to go back and kill the prison boss area, as well as the forbidden woods boss. I am now ready for Byrgenwerth I think unless I missed areas within the other three headstones which is possible (including the one in the spoiler area). I'm at level 57 now with like 32ish insight and 8 more I could use but I hesitate.

I also have had 2 instances where doing the summon bell brought no one so I "think" they need to be in your friends list for it to work? If so add me spimp13 and I will also help if I can for a boss fight.
I'm level 19 and just got to this spot.
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It's right after you open the chest and get the set with the top hat? It didn't kill me though, but dropped my health down to a sliver.
Don't have any headstones activated and only killed the Cleric Beast and the giant pussy with the gun in the graveyard.
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03-30-2015 , 08:15 PM
Either I'm a bit under leveled for byrgenwerth or its because my insight is 39 but getting hit pretty hard here. How again can you deduct the insight? I thought it was the back bath in the hunter dream but all they do is ask if I want to give them a hat to wear lol. On a side note I must have found the right item to make my spoiler above not kill me this time. Now I'm in some lecture area. Fml I am doing these in the wrong order haha. Byrgenwerth must be for a bit later.

Last edited by spimp13; 03-30-2015 at 08:22 PM.
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03-30-2015 , 08:21 PM
So what is the verdict on this game for someone who normally is not into the rpg-ish mostly 1 player fantasy games. The reviews seems pretty incredible but is this game that good that anyone will like it?
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03-31-2015 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by WichitaDM
So what is the verdict on this game for someone who normally is not into the rpg-ish mostly 1 player fantasy games. The reviews seems pretty incredible but is this game that good that anyone will like it?
Do you like difficult games? Have you played any of the previous games (Dark Souls 1, 2, or Demons Souls)? I would maybe rent one of those first to try it out, specifically Dark Souls 1. This game is different in regards to there are pretty much very few shields, so unlike the previous games which had a lot more block/attack or dodge/attack in battles...this is more dodge/attack or stun/attack (visceral). Also so far I haven't seen any spells, and I "think" that instead you can get these attributes put on your actual weapon that you attack with. Maybe someone with that sort of build can clarify.

I have 2 areas I could be working on and no idea which order they should be in
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Either the nightmare section as I just unlocked that stone or byrgenwerth. Is there an order these are supposed to be played? I am trying to do them in the correct order but it appears I am all over the place on the story and not doing them in the correct order (or recommended order I should say)
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03-31-2015 , 11:13 AM
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Do you like difficult games? Have you played any of the previous games (Dark Souls 1, 2, or Demons Souls)? I would maybe rent one of those first to try it out, specifically Dark Souls 1. This game is different in regards to there are pretty much very few shields, so unlike the previous games which had a lot more block/attack or dodge/attack in battles...this is more dodge/attack or stun/attack (visceral). Also so far I haven't seen any spells, and I "think" that instead you can get these attributes put on your actual weapon that you attack with. Maybe someone with that sort of build can clarify.

I have 2 areas I could be working on and no idea which order they should be in
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Either the nightmare section as I just unlocked that stone or byrgenwerth. Is there an order these are supposed to be played? I am trying to do them in the correct order but it appears I am all over the place on the story and not doing them in the correct order (or recommended order I should say)
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I think Byrgenwyrth should be first. I did that long before the nightmare part, anyway.
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03-31-2015 , 11:27 AM
I haven't completed the game yey because I've gotten sidetracked on chalice dungeons. This will probably make me OP for the endgame, but they're too much fun. It looks like there is quite a bit of depth there. I haven't done that many but I ran into

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the giant boss that you fight in the first dungeon. He was a regular enemy, he had a cannon, and he was in a massive poison swamp.


At first, a lot of the rooms seemed pretty samey, but I'm starting to see an expanded variety. There are a lot of new enemies, too. Supposedly there are NPCs and items that you can take to the main story and use to interact with NPCs as well.

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So what is the verdict on this game for someone who normally is not into the rpg-ish mostly 1 player fantasy games. The reviews seems pretty incredible but is this game that good that anyone will like it?
Have you played the Souls games or how much do you know about them? That's basically what this is. They're kind of their own thing and I don't know what advice to give if you're not familiar with them other than to say that you should at least give it a try. If you like it, you're going to REALLY like it and it offers endless amounts of gameplay.
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03-31-2015 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WichitaDM
So what is the verdict on this game for someone who normally is not into the rpg-ish mostly 1 player fantasy games. The reviews seems pretty incredible but is this game that good that anyone will like it?
I'm gonna guess you have not played any *Souls, I have not either. This game is very very good! It is however not at all handholding. It's tough to say the game isn't of the standard "power fantasy" trope, since it kinda is - the difference being you aren't just given power and set free to lay waste to mobs, you must learn to battle and therefore the victory is so much sweeter.

It reminds me of old-skool Tomb Raider 1 on the PS1. It reminds me of Zelda on the SNES. Both amazing games imo. You are given amazingly designed, intricate levels - but no map, no directional checkpoint markers - you must explore and find your own way. The story is told by encounters with people along the way, and most power-ups are found items so far. That said, I am still very early on after several days.

There is an RPG element, but while it is extensive and appears deep, it is very much background - I see no reason you couldn't play the whole thing so far without any grinding or levelling. I haven't really grinded, although I do make sure to go retrieve my XP if I die and spend it, try never to waste.

It also reminds me of Assassin’s Creed, Watch_Dogs, GTA and other such modern third person AAA extravaganzas - except it kinda makes them look like weak pretenders in the gameplay dept.
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03-31-2015 , 01:30 PM
oh. my. god. just watched the opening cinematic - not the one when you start new game, but the one if you leave it sat at the login screen for a few minutes (I was just finishing for the night, left it sat there after "exit game" listening to the music lol). So awesome! I think the first part of it is E3 trailer 2014? Anyhow, well worth a watch if you didn't see it before. Top quality CGI work

Explored a good deal of Cathedral Ward now (should we be spoilering location names?). Found a ton of blood shards, so upgraded my Cane to +2 and have that as my secondary to Axe +2 - it makes a huge difference on the cane. Didn't much like it before, now it's a crowd control beast (but still not quite up there with spin 2 win axe move). Amazing on crows! Feels like in cane mode it can get in a lot more R1 hits before I run out of stamina compared to axe. Bought a Kirkhammer, didn't really use it much yet. Also bought a blunderbuss (started with pistol). I think the blunderbuss has a far larger timing window for stagger? seems a hell of a lot easier (and obv useless at range).
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