You can stop enemies from spawning by walking over the spiked button for free on the Lost.

Oh. LOL me again then . Thanks for the info.

http://www.destructoid.com/an-expans...s-325301.phtml

Lua support. GG

Today's daily was rather annoying, I thought that just completing it would yield a nice place. Possibly made a mistake somewhere, like not getting a devil deal on 2nd or 3rd (?) floord.

just somehow got continuum when starting a run with judas, anyone had this? i finished the run and started another and didnt have them

You probably picked up Eden's Blessing on the run before that, it gives you an extra item at the start of the next run.

Now that Lost is an actual playable character and Keeper is the annoying one, it's still nowhere as bad as vanilla lost, kinda miss those 50 hours or whatever of Lost grind. I feel like Afterbirth RPG will be rather easy, only need Mega Satan on the Lost (and already had two nice runs for that so definitely quite easy) and fully do the Keeper.

What an unusual daily, I struggled hard first couple floors with no bombs and keys and low damage and I went for the shovel leaving myself with one heart. Then I found black market but couldn't take anything. Then I found Lazarus Rag's and killed myself. In W1 in the boss challenge room there was teleport to Devil and there you could find Judas' Shadow and Spirit of the Night and obviously took both - so now I was a flying slow Black Judas.

Oh, and in the end died to Satan on the last phase, sigh.

Also, I took Eden's Blessing hoping it will help me on the daily tomorrow, but I'm afraid to play a normal non-daily game now so that I don't burn it. Will it be used on my next general run or my next daily run in this case?

Interesting, I found neither Lazarus' Rags nor Eden's Blessing, did beat Satan though.

The game might hate me, trying for Lost Mega Satan and I get a start with 9 lives. The only damage items I pick up all run are Meat and Daddy Long Legs. I still make it to the chest with a Jera rune (thanks Trinity Shield) and from my 8 chests I get Sagittarius as my best item, no fricking damage again. Obviously didn't beat Mega Satan...

Yeah keeper needs some love, it's just not fun

Just started Keeper runs last night and he's been treating me pretty good. Cheesed Ultra Greed fight with Gnawed Leaf + Headless Baby (lol), and then held r for a bit tonight until I got Holy Mantle in first item room, went on to get swallowed penny in a pot, and then on caves 1 got a perthro card to reroll Shoop Da Whoop from an Envy fight into Tech X (pretty sure this is the best item in the game) and item room had 20/20. Missed boss rush by ~30 sec, but easily got to and beat Hush and while clearing The Chest after beating Blue Baby, luckboxed a Get Out of Jail Free Card...gg Mega Satan.

Still need Mega Satan Lost run, Sheol/Lamb/Boss Rush with Keeper, and Brains challenge (f that thing).

Tech X is one of my favorite items to pick up. I just wish they would fix some of the synergies with it.

finally beat you

Me? played the daily too agressively, used binky on the first floor to play the sacrifice room like 8 times then on caves 1 I went to the boss end and decided to do it with one heart because I had high damage - turned out it was the fallen, got to phase 2 in like 3 seconds but then got hit twice on the next one by spit and brimstone so it was gg. Would have been a nice score if the strategy worked out.

edit: dat Derwipok though... 48th atm.

yeah but i got steven and black lotus in back to back runs yesterday so =p. all that's left now is getting bandage girl and the related item, then i'll buy afterbirth!

i'm just stubborn, tbh.

just item touches to go.

Nice

Noice, got Keeper Boss Rush the other day (with pretty much just Pony and Tech X), but choked on the Dark Room Tech X carries so hard.

They need to make The Keeper starts with 3 coins so this way we can actually take 2-hearts devil deal. IMO 2 coins just isn't enough to make this char viable with all the bull**** that can happen in a run. Yeah they wanted to make a challenging character, but he's just gonna be a Lost 1.0 at this point... get all achievements and never play him again.

I love this xpac but the new chars have been underwhelming so far. The Keeper is not consistent enough, Lilith is a really cool concept but she's annoying as **** to play. Atleast they made The Lost somewhat viable

Yeah keeper is a stupid character, doesn't unlock anything so pointless unless you want to 100% at least the lost had real unlocks instead of trolls

I actually disagree. The Keeper is nowhere as bad as vanilla Lost, it takes way less time to unlock everything. Especially if you beat Isaac with him, then you get a Wooden Nickel and it's a piece a cake from then. Beating Satan unlocks Store Key - another advantage although less vital. It just requires a special strategy. But yes, I agree it's painful that you're losing a coin counts as red heart dmg, changing that would make the Keeper way easier.

And Lilith is really strong, it's easy to get used to her playstyle, just a matter of approach.

I think as a bull**** character it's bull**** enough but not ******ed.

I got a super ******ed build as the keeper that included basically every bomb synergy in the game that let me beat the cathedral. I should have beat Mega Satan as well but I had curse of the unknown and tried to get rid of it using forget me not, which locked the door back up.

Keeper with Wooden Nickel is easier than the Lost imo. Beat Greed mode yesterday with quad shot + tech + a couple weak dmg ups.

Got 1001% last night. Keeper took me about 10x less time/effort than Rebirth Lost. Still annoying as f though and will never play that char again outside of random select. Afterbirth Lost is a reasonable char now though at least so there aren't multiple unplayables.

Yeah if they fix keeper and let you random eden if you have tokens you could have good true random streaks as a goal