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02-11-2009 , 01:26 PM
ok, so this guy was weirdly aggro, limped alot but was just ******ed in some spots (3bet shoved at 10/20 to 3x's, and hands like this):


Poker Stars $220+$10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 36060
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Hero (BB): t1490 M = 49.67
BTN/SB: t1510 M = 50.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 7 7
BTN/SB raises to t80, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t160) J 6 T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t1430 all in, Hero folds




so now, seeing these next 3 hands later on, all within 15-20 hands of each other, whats your dec. in all of them?



Hand 1

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Hero (BTN/SB): t1460 M = 48.67
BB: t1540 M = 51.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with K 7
Hero raises to t40, BB calls t20

Flop: (t80) K 5 A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB calls t60

Turn: (t200) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t200) K (2 players)
BB bets t400, Hero ????





hand 2






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Hero (BTN/SB): t1495 M = 33.22
BB: t1505 M = 33.44

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with 3 K
Hero raises to t90, BB calls t60

Flop: (t180) 4 6 K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t120, BB calls t120

Turn: (t420) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t420) 4 (2 players)
BB bets t420, Hero ????






hand 3




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Hero (BB): t925 M = 20.56
BTN/SB: t2075 M = 46.11

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with A T
BTN/SB calls t15, Hero raises to t100, BTN/SB calls t70

Flop: (t200) 7 9 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t1975 all in, Hero ????
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02-11-2009 , 01:53 PM
hand 1:

lol sick, i call...

hand 2:

bet turn 285, as played, call River

hand 3:

mehh, i fold.
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02-11-2009 , 01:54 PM
1.) Call
2.) Call
3.) Fold
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02-11-2009 , 01:58 PM
1/ I can see him do this as a bluf with some busted gutshot on the flop or turning his 5 into a bluf. I'm not laying this down against weird aggro guy this early.

2/ Call.
3/ Timing tell might do some good here. I'm calling if he snapshoved. He could have some lucky hit with the 9, but also any draws which the 10 gives us a blocker with, or just total air.

I might do things differently depending on the information we gain after some calls but without too many reads his big/huge bets on these paired boards kinda suck but i still call.
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02-11-2009 , 02:05 PM
I'm calling all 3 as you played them.

I'm betting the turn on hand 2 and calling if he c/r all-in.
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02-11-2009 , 02:26 PM
Call the first two obviously. Prolly call the 3rd one too but have to be there and see his speed
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02-11-2009 , 02:29 PM
flip coin
fold
call
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02-11-2009 , 02:33 PM
1 - call and feeling horrible about it
2 - fold
3 - fold
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02-11-2009 , 03:18 PM
Call/Call/Fold. I feel like for #3 to be even close he has to have shown up with some really random **** in the first two.
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02-11-2009 , 03:21 PM
Agree with nemo. But I know I would call 1.
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02-11-2009 , 03:38 PM
i think i call/fold/fold

but results of hand 1 would be helpful in hand 2
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02-11-2009 , 03:41 PM
hand #1 insta call. i probably check that flop though, hoping to get some more chips from the spewtard.

hand #2 i call again(maybe i am a station hahaha). but i don't 3x preflop a hand like this against an opponent like this. i limp or minraise.

hand #3 i actually think preflop is really bad against this kind of villain. i know it's totally fine to play this way against a normal opponent, but not this guy. he is going to call you pre and you are going to get into a weird spot post flop. as played i probably call, but it's close. i think call or fold is fine here really. but preflop i probably shove or make a pot committing raise. i even prefer checking to raising to 100.
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02-11-2009 , 03:43 PM
Yikes I disagree with everyone!

Hand 1: Fold
Hand 2: Bet turn zomg. Fold river.
Hand 3: *generally* Call we have a T blocker with our A. However, my actual play would depend on if I called or folded the first 2 hands since it changes the leveling battle. If you went fold, call(was no good), I'd fold. If you went fold/fold, I'd call. if you went fold, call(was good), I'd call.
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02-11-2009 , 03:46 PM
Lol I'm pretty sure not calling hand 1 is really bad. Hand 2 I can see why ppl say fold but I still think call.
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02-11-2009 , 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by skates
Yikes I disagree with everyone!

Hand 1: Fold
.
you really fold a fullhouse when you are getting 2 to 3 on your money from a guy who is shoving and overbetting pots like crazy? sure, the guy is totally repping an ace, but there are only two of them in the fricking deck.
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02-11-2009 , 03:55 PM
there is too little info to tell for first 2, last one is a fold

betting K7o against this player on the first hand and then folding when you improve is probably going to be a leak
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02-11-2009 , 04:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by skates
Yikes I disagree with everyone!

Hand 1: Fold
Hand 2: Bet turn zomg. Fold river.
Hand 3: *generally* Call we have a T blocker with our A. However, my actual play would depend on if I called or folded the first 2 hands since it changes the leveling battle. If you went fold, call(was no good), I'd fold. If you went fold/fold, I'd call. if you went fold, call(was good), I'd call.
meh,

I folded hand 1
called hand 2 (he showed up w/ Q4hh)
and called hand 3, he showed up w/ A9o

so I guess im an epic/fail in the leveling war =/
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02-11-2009 , 04:35 PM
I call the first one, not crazy about it.

I call the second one, and I think it's way easier than hand 1.

I think the third one is really close, but I tend to fold.

Why did you minraise K7 (at 10/20) and 3x K3 (at 15/30), just wondering?
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02-11-2009 , 04:39 PM
game-flow kinda, he was 3bet shoving a few times at 10/20 and then stopped all together, so I started 3xing again
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02-11-2009 , 06:06 PM
i like how you played every hand and i would fold hand 1, call hand 2 and get really annoyed at hand 3 bc you feel like hes shoving his entire range, but every time you call, he has the "nuts"
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02-11-2009 , 06:07 PM
actually, i think i would check hand 1 on the flop bc you want this guy to spew to you on later streets. And even tho most people don't check back AKx flops with air, he is obv ******ed so it doesn't matter.
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02-11-2009 , 06:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PrimordialAA
meh,

I folded hand 1
called hand 2 (he showed up w/ Q4hh)
and called hand 3, he showed up w/ A9o

so I guess im an epic/fail in the leveling war =/
So what you're saying is... I made the right play in every hand?

Nah, tough spots for sure.
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02-11-2009 , 06:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by filthyvermin
you really fold a fullhouse when you are getting 2 to 3 on your money from a guy who is shoving and overbetting pots like crazy? sure, the guy is totally repping an ace, but there are only two of them in the fricking deck.
Yea, I mean, people just don't overbet bluff here that often. It's a great line with Kx because Hero basically never has an ace, but really, people don't do that.

Also vs. this villain I might let my cbet % drop a ton and just fire a million turns. Also, I might bet turn sometimes in Hand 1. Most people will flat turn with Ax because we're polarized and they just want us to bluff as often as we can on river, so we save ourselves from a tough spot on the river while still getting the value from 5x or PPs.
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02-11-2009 , 07:34 PM
I agree with skates assessment, in this thread.

I will also agree that pf in hand 3 seems bad. Maybe I missed something, but it seems this guy is making big mistakes overbetting the pot. If we raise preflop here, especially OOP, we make that tendency of his be less of an error.
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02-11-2009 , 09:38 PM
i like turn check on hand 2 but other than that i agree with skates (omg)
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