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02-16-2024 , 05:05 PM
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Yatahay Network - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 146.44 BB
Hero (BB): 143.76 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 130.56 BB
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 94.36 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J T

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2.48 BB, Hero calls 1.48 BB

Flop: (4.96 BB, 2 players) 5 A K
SB bets 1.24 BB, Hero calls 1.24 BB

Turn: (7.44 BB, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets 3.72 BB, SB calls 3.72 BB

River: (14.88 BB, 2 players) 2
SB checks

Villian 32/24/7 - seems decent enough - only 100 hands and not too many other notes
Doesn't seem like the best river to bluff but meh. Would rather have a club river
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02-16-2024 , 05:18 PM
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I would mostly check turn, bluffing is ok too. Don't like this size, size up we are attacking some decent SDV hands when we decide to bluff, aloso don't make much sense to bet this size when we should bet polar.

River whatever, if he doesn't pay attention OB could work.
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02-16-2024 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
I would mostly check turn, bluffing is ok too. Don't like this size, size up we are attacking some decent SDV hands when we decide to bluff, aloso don't make much sense to bet this size when we should bet polar.

River whatever, if he doesn't pay attention OB could work.
I just gave up - he ended up having KQ - i mean i was mostly attacking a hand like a pocket pair - wouldn't expect a K or A to fold ever

half pot turn is pretty weak - i think an over bet would be better. I doubt he folds an A - but a K might fold.

I think this river is too lousy to bluff - so I was fine with giving up.
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02-16-2024 , 11:35 PM
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He should be betting large on this flop, so he's making a passive mistake we could in theory jump on there with a cheeky raise, masquerading as a clueless fish

AP the solver does likes an OB on the river. Can't see Kx calling down if we unleash. In fact it fires 80% of range. cool
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02-17-2024 , 12:46 AM
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No one is betting 1/3 on the flop and xc a weak turn bet with anything good here on this board, so you can probably bet as big as you want with almost anything.
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02-17-2024 , 02:40 AM
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Would villain call with like, A3 on the river to an overbet? I assume he calls down up to pot maybe not vs 150%. I would think a fair amount of weak Ax would be in villain's range by the river.

Solver likes bluffing this hand on river as played, but it is almost never going half pot on the turn, so our river range is probably full of trash that should rarely if ever half on the turn (not that it necessarily matters unless we were villain contemplating calling rivers). Heuristically, I probably would give up with the club. In practice, maybe overbet is the way to go. Realistically, you probably won't get punished for overbluffing.
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02-17-2024 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mlark
Would villain call with like, A3 on the river to an overbet? I assume he calls down up to pot maybe not vs 150%. I would think a fair amount of weak Ax would be in villain's range by the river.

Solver likes bluffing this hand on river as played, but it is almost never going half pot on the turn, so our river range is probably full of trash that should rarely if ever half on the turn (not that it necessarily matters unless we were villain contemplating calling rivers). Heuristically, I probably would give up with the club. In practice, maybe overbet is the way to go. Realistically, you probably won't get punished for overbluffing.
ya I looked it up and saw that, it likes bluffing with a club in the hand.
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04-17-2024 , 10:27 AM
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SB has a weak hand here once he calls the turn I agree. Is he planning on folding the river with it though? Not to any small bet no.
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