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11-07-2010 , 03:03 PM
A stranger is being shown around a village that he has just become part of. He is shown a well and his guide says "On any day except Wednesday, you can shout any question down that well, and you'll be told the answer" .

The stranger shouts down several questions, and all are answered. The stranger is impressed, and after thinking a minute he shouts down: "Why not on Wednesday?" and the voice from in the well shouts back "Because on Wednesday, it’s your day in the well".


I used to be a fairly active poster here over three years ago, and then I kinda just stopped. I'm having trouble with my sleep schedule at the moment, so I have the whole night ahead of me with not that much to do beyond studying and reading a book, so fire away!

Quick cliffnotes on me for those of you who don't know me very well:

I started playing poker when I was 18 with a free $50 I got from a Party affiliate that was handing out free moneys at the time. I played 6-max NLHE all the way from 0.01/0.02 to 10/20, after which I become almost exclusively a heads-up specialist. Mind you, this was a while back when playing heads-up was still considered cool! I have played up to 100/200, though I'm down a lot life time at that stupid game. At present moment I play mostly 10/20 and 25/50. I have played poker for five and a half years, though the past few years I've struggled to put in much volume.

I'm living in Bangkok, Thailand, and have been for close to 2.5 years now. I don't have any plans of leaving here anytime soon, but then again you never know what the future brings with it.
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11-07-2010 , 03:04 PM
whats ur sn?
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11-07-2010 , 03:07 PM
I only really play on the European sites for tax reasons. I won't divuldge any of my screen names, and besides there really wouldn't be a one screen name that a lot of people would reckognize as I've played on many networks and changed my screennames often, which is the standard in the Euroworld.
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11-07-2010 , 03:11 PM
Do you think Raveneye was a good player in ET?
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11-07-2010 , 03:11 PM
I am not amused, I thought this was Blotkis' well.
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11-07-2010 , 03:15 PM
Lifetime graph or as close as you can get to it?

Top 5 hu players you have played?

What bankroll rules did you use from getting to 1/2 to 100/200.

Biggest shot you ever taken? What % of your bankroll was it?
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11-07-2010 , 03:17 PM
blotkis is not concerned
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11-07-2010 , 03:19 PM
1) Do you coach, what is your hourly rate?

2) If I open the button in 6 max to 3x, how do you break down how often the SB and BB need to defend to make me indifferent to open raising in the first place?
i.e if they both fold approx 80% we are indifferent to raising ignoring the equity we have when called but does the BB need to defend more than the SB etc and how much more?
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11-07-2010 , 03:20 PM
What do you think of free markets?

Why did you go to Thailand? How easy was it getting in? How is it?
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11-07-2010 , 03:28 PM
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Do you think Raveneye was a good player in ET?
Oh yeah something I forgot to mention on the OP is that before poker I used to play multiplayer computer games competitively. Yeah he was obviously good, though I have the impression that I had already quit the game before he started making more name for himself.

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Lifetime graph or as close as you can get to it?

Top 5 hu players you have played?

What bankroll rules did you use from getting to 1/2 to 100/200.

Biggest shot you ever taken? What % of your bankroll was it?
#1 Sorry this is impossible. My hands are spread between many computers and I've lost a big chunk of my life time hands due to hard drive failure :/.

#2 Blom would be clearly the number one. I feel like listing players by their screen names on the euro networks is kinda futile as people change them all the time, and this they don't really even stick to my head that well. I remember RoySpern being good from the old iPoker days, and going even more back Snake8484 was really solid.

#3 I've always been really conservative with my bankroll. Up to 1/2 I would play with 20-30 buy-ins, and then from 5/10 up I always had more than 50 buy-ins. I'm not sure what my biggest shot percentage wise has been. I do remember calculating that I once lost 7% of my net worth in a day playing 50/100, and then there was one day where I dropped 100k on one of the first times I was shotting at 100/200, which was prolly even bigger percentage wise.
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11-07-2010 , 03:34 PM
1) "aha-moments" in your pokercareer?

2) biggest strenght/weakness u see in yourself?

3) best advice you could give to msnl players trying to get into hsnl? (this may be vague; not restricted to HU, just curious)
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11-07-2010 , 03:39 PM
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1) Do you coach, what is your hourly rate?
Not really. ezdonkey recently made a good post about coaching that has been my view for a long time. I have given one off lessons every now and then, usually to someone I've known personally, or through a friend. The last time I did coach was when I was proposed $800 by a friend of a friend, and the coaching format was very convenient for me.

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2) If I open the button in 6 max to 3x, how do you break down how often the SB and BB need to defend to make me indifferent to open raising in the first place?
i.e if they both fold approx 80% we are indifferent to raising ignoring the equity we have when called but does the BB need to defend more than the SB etc and how much more?
I wouldn't know, sorry. I never tried applying this type of reasoning to 6 max, as by the time I got enough into it, and this was a while back, I was already playing 95% heads-up.
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11-07-2010 , 03:40 PM
Why do you think you are winning at HU. What is it that you do so much better then your opponents?

At what point in your career did you stop counting your money and start weighing them?

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11-07-2010 , 03:48 PM
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What do you think of free markets?
There was a time, right before the global financial crisis blew up, when I was interested in economics and I was doing a lot of reading on the subject. I think the free'er (sp?) the markets, the more productive the society is going to be, but I don't necessarily agree that society would be best off with this idea taken to the extreme. For one thing, people don't really care that much about absolute wealth as much as they care about relative wealth, and free markets tend to make the differences in wealth more extreme obviously.

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Why did you go to Thailand? How easy was it getting in? How is it?
I had a friend traveling here (also a poker player), so as I was bored in Finland, never having really travelled by myself, the obvious choice was to join him and see the world. Then I met more and more people here, and now the majority of my friends live here, so I'm pretty well set. Thailand is kinda nice in the way that it's pretty exotic to us westerners, but yet it's really easy to access due to the huge influence that tourism has on the countries economy, for both good and bad.
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11-07-2010 , 04:04 PM
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The last time I did coach was when I was proposed $800 by a friend of a friend, and the coaching format was very convenient for me.
This was me wheeeeeeeeee

I'm still experimenting with a totally new style that I learned from a double lesson (will be back in contact soon kotkis)! I still dont know how much of a theoretical approach I can take onboard, but am trying.

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11-07-2010 , 04:12 PM
Stuff you do when in a bad stretch of variance to work on your game/keep from going insane?

If you don't have to deal with that, then what should players be doing to improve that you don't think they do enough of?

We miss u on chat, come chat more???????
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11-07-2010 , 04:25 PM
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1) "aha-moments" in your pokercareer?
Hmm.... I don't remember having any aha-moments in a long long time. Then again I haven't really put any effort into studying poker in almost two years. The thing about studying poker is that it offers you diminishing returns: The better and more complex your understanding of the game, the less it actually matters in terms of real win-rates. I feel like with HU NLHE I've reached a point where studying the game any further doesn't really help me that much, compared to just trying to put in hands.

Most of my aha-moments as I was grinding up in limits came from talking with Parlay Slow, and later with MDMA, not as much about individual hands themselves, but about poker theory in general. I also learned a lot from watching BLdSWtTRs play back in the old Party 10/20 games, when I was still playing 2/4-5/10.

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2) biggest strenght/weakness u see in yourself?
As a poker player? Two of my biggest strenghts are that I'm extremely analytical, and I'm really apathethic towards the money. For experienced players like myself, being desentisized to the money is fairly trivial, but a much bigger contributor to tilt is the mental fatigue that builds up from constantly being on the edge in marginal spots where you might end up second guessing yourself. Beucase of my analytical ability, I'm feel like I understand the game well enough by this point, where I hardly second guess myself at all. I understand what constiutes as variance and where my actual edge lies in, and how small those edges can sometimes be in relation to the amounts of money that gets regularly shoved into the pot. When I do make mistakes, which I do, the magnificence of those mistakes are not going to be big to the point where I'd have to worry if I'm playing my A, B or C game, and if I should consider quitting because I'm playing bad. This kind of self-confidence works well for tilt control.

My biggest weaknesses? Well one would be that I'm so apathethic towards the money. I don't really feel like an urging need to be making lots of it anymore, eventhough I can see how the games are getting tougher, and thus my ability to make money is probably going to diminish year by year. I'm good at finding excuses not to play, because losing sucks, not because I'm out of money, but because putting a lot of effort into something, and then not being linearly rewarded is very frustrating. Imagine if you were hell spent on getting in good shape by hitting the gym hard, so you make yourself a program, follow it rigorously and giving every session everything you have, but yet you randomly just keep going down in weights. That's one of the down sides of poker.


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3) best advice you could give to msnl players trying to get into hsnl? (this may be vague; not restricted to HU, just curious)
Pay as much attention to the skills that are outside of the scope of technical skills of being good at poker. I'm not a good role model to follow in this respect though.
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11-07-2010 , 04:28 PM
Are you staying mostly on Thailand or do you travel much or spend time at Finland (have a house/apartment here in Finland?)

How do you feel about current HU situation (lobbys full of people sitting and waiting, hard to get action etc) and how it could/should be improved? Do you like the idea of anonymous tables that some sites have recently introduced?

When talking about players with relatively good poker knowledge, do you think "technical poker skills" or other skills (tilt control, emotional state when playing, good focus etc) are more important? eg. if we compare avarage regular at 3/6 and 10/20...100/200, which one makes more difference

Do you play MTTs or PLO and if not, have you ever considered it?

Do you think BlotKis is concerned?

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11-07-2010 , 04:33 PM
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Why do you think you are winning at HU. What is it that you do so much better then your opponents?
Well people play bad in many ways. If I had to pick one reason, it would be my tilt control. I like playing long heads-up matches where the stacks go in light.

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At what point in your career did you stop counting your money and start weighing them?
Hahah, thank god I play online and not live. If I was constantly in contact with physical currency that were in proportion to the amounts I play poker with I would be so messed up.
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11-07-2010 , 04:37 PM
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Stuff you do when in a bad stretch of variance to work on your game/keep from going insane?

If you don't have to deal with that, then what should players be doing to improve that you don't think they do enough of?
I try to not think about poker. Luckily nowadays I have many things I can keep myself occupied with so I don't have to. I think finding hobbies outside of poker, that you can escape to when poker is going bad, is something everyone should have. Although then you run the risk, that the new hobby or activities are so fun that you don't really feel like playing poker anymore :|


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We miss u on chat, come chat more???????
Oh yeah I just stopped using IRC because I was too lazy to install it on my desktop computer, and I don't use my laptop as much anymore. But I'll make a mental note to stop by again :]
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11-07-2010 , 04:37 PM
Who do you think has the edge btw Jungle and Durrrr?
Would you play the durrrr challenge if you had the bankroll for it?
How often and when do you go for vacum plays?
Does Finland suck?
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11-07-2010 , 04:38 PM
So you never busted your bankroll even once while moving up stakes? Sick brag. It took me 4-5 times of busting 50k+ rolls to finally realize how the f to go about things the right way.

Your graph is still probably the sexiest one that exists on 2p2. Good luck with things in Thailand and thanks for doing this.
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11-07-2010 , 04:42 PM
Also your approach to the game seems well suited for PLO, esp talking about stacks going in all the time, understanding hand values, variance etc.
Why did you not ride the PLO money train in previous years when you were at the right place at the right time to seize the moment?
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11-07-2010 , 05:15 PM
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Are you staying mostly on Thailand or do you travel much or spend time at Finland (have a house/apartment here in Finland?)
This year I've mostly just stayed in Thailand with the exception of one trip to Europe when I was playing the WSOPE HU event and stopping by Switzerland and Finland. Life here is pretty idyllic so I don't see much of a reason to go anywhere else, other than for doing something out of the ordinary.

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How do you feel about current HU situation (lobbys full of people sitting and waiting, hard to get action etc) and how it could/should be improved? Do you like the idea of anonymous tables that some sites have recently introduced?
I'm glad this came up because I like ranting about the subject. The situation obviously blows, and for no good reason. It's not like one of those problems with no apparent solutions, like the tragedy of the commons.

I was thinking about writing an article about this very subject because quite frankly I'm amazed that more people don't see the situation the same way as I do. But I'll try to keep this short because there are other questions I should be responding to.

Like I said in my introduction, I started playing heads-up when it was still the cool thing to do. Back then the money in poker was still easy enough, where many more people had bigger egos because they were making a shitton of money compared to any other venue of life, and because of the abundance of money, they weren't as concerned about the possiblity of playing in a -EV game once in a while. In fact many people would go out of their way to play other regulars, because that's the way you get better and then you can make even more money as long as you have what it takes. Two or three years ago I would never sit to wait for action. I would just find someone to play me, and they would for atleast a short period of time. Even if one of my screen names had a reputation of being a very strong player, people would still play me to keep themselves occupied, and to learn something new. Oh the old days

So then when the easy money dried up and people who actually weren't that great at poker became a lot more conscious about the fact that they might not be able to support themselves anymore, they resorted to just playing ******s. Btw I'm not saying that this isn't the rational thing for them to do, nor do I feel contempt for them for trying to make the best of todays games. I blame the sites! You see, there's very little reason for the sites to accomodate the bumhunters. The fish are going to get their action fix from anyone, so if you are only willing to play against people who are clearly levels inferior to you, then you're not contributing anything to the liquidity of the system. And why would you? There's no incentive for you to do that, as it would only hurt your bottom line. But what this all ends up in, is a system where the guys making the most money are not the most talented or the guys who have worked the hardest on their games. Instead the people making the most money are people who have the greatest patience for waiting a game, or even worse, resorting to scummy tactics such as table blocking others when a fish is around, or trying to steal the fish away from another reg by chatting them up. To someone who has always seen the poker economy as this mini world of capitalism where the smartest (and obviously to a large extent the luckiest) players are blessed with the ability to make a very luxurious living for their efforts, which is as an ideal is a driving force for why so many people play the game, the way that things have come to be is just simply put pretty ****ed up.

So what should the sites do about it? Well anonymous tables are one option, though I don't see that as an ultimate solution by any means. Eventhough the nature of the tables greatly benefits my style of approach to the game, I would still agree that they take away an element that's part of what poker should be. So what else? KOTH should be the standard for every site. Many people object to this with the argument that "well then it's just going to be cts and durrr sitting at every game and how is that going to be any fun?", but it really doesn't have to be that way. You can limit it to being able to only sit at one empty table at a time, and have a quota of tables available for each stakes based on the active player pool. Just make it so that people have an incentive to play against each other for the right to hold the valuable real estate, so the sites make rake from regs contesting their right to wait for the recreational players. And more importantly, INCENTIVIZE people playing well, so that there's a reason for people to keep developing their game by playing in match ups that aren't clearly in favour of one or the other side. Do this before the HU do anymore harm to the 6-max games (as now that every poker site has HU tables it's too late for any of them to recall them, which would probably be the ideal situation as far as generating rake goes).

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When talking about players with relatively good poker knowledge, do you think "technical poker skills" or other skills (tilt control, emotional state when playing, good focus etc) are more important? eg. if we compare avarage regular at 3/6 and 10/20...100/200, in which area do the highrollers perform better?
As far as making money goes, I think the other skills matter much more to be honest. 2eazy has surely made much more money than I have, and yet I would consider myself a better player than he is.

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Do you play MTTs or PLO and if not, have you ever considered it?
MTT's, no way in hell haha. As for PLO, I've dabbled with it a little bit, but still not quite comfortable playing it, and I've been too lazy to give it a serious shot analytically.

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Do you think BlotKis is concerned?
Obv not haha

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11-07-2010 , 05:26 PM
How easy is it to stay in Thailand legally?
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