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10-01-2008 , 07:38 PM
i think there is value in raising here. the way the hand played out i think 2p, trips and a tie are all likely. being filled up is a small part also. is there value here or just spew?


Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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SB: $10.30
BB: $11.15
UTG: $4.75
CO: $18.00
Hero (BTN): $11.50

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 8 8
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.40) 7 5 9 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.40) 7 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.40) 6 (4 players)
SB bets $0.30, BB folds, UTG calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.30, SB raises to $4.50, UTG folds, Hero raises to $11.40 all in, SB calls $5.70 all in
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10-01-2008 , 07:55 PM
is there?
there were no pre flop raises.
the hand was checked right down to the river, then all hell broke loose.

he could have anything. the hand to be most afraid of here is 10 8 (which is what he'd be more likely to play on a pre flop limp).

because he's reraised your raise, there's A LOT he could have to beat you.
55, 66, 99, 7 5, 7 6, 7 9, 10 8, 77.
all you have is a straight 5 - 9.

IMO, and remember, that i am a newbie as well, going hard on a 4 card straight when there is a full house draw on the table, isn't value. it's potential trouble.
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10-01-2008 , 08:29 PM
On that board the only hands giving that much action if you raise are ones that beat you or tie you so there is no point in shoving, I would just call his lead here. Why on earth aren't you raising 88 here from the BTN though?
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10-01-2008 , 08:44 PM
Raise this preflop all day.

As played I would probably take a stab on the turn, and definitely just call his river 3bet, there is absolutely no reason to shove since he's folding everything that we beat.

Higher straight, 66 or some goofy FH, and a split are all very possible here.
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10-01-2008 , 08:51 PM
Power of position, my friend.

Raise PF. Bet flop (this is a pretty good flop for you!). DEFINITELY bet turn.

No need to go crazy when SB has made it clear that your'e at best chopping with him, and it's not like UTG is still in the hand to sandwich in the middle. Just call now (the $4.50, that is).
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10-01-2008 , 11:32 PM
no value in 4betting ai here. once he 3bets flat. not like u even have 8T and even then i'd prob flat.
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