We've been playing over an hour. He likes to float, has rivered some crap, I've rivered some crap, back and forth match and we are both capable are big bluffs. I know you all will say, "meh, fold preflop", well whatever, that's not how I play, plus you get winnerwinner flops like this. Are bet sizes okay? I was trying to set up the river poooosh, but then an obv. awesome card comes

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
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Hero (SB): $1,439.35
BB: $671.60

Pre-Flop: 8 6 dealt to Hero (SB)
Hero raises to $12, BB raises to $36, Hero calls $24

Flop: ($72) T 7 9 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $60, BB calls $60

Turn: ($192) K (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $132, BB calls $132

River: ($456) J (2 Players)
BB checks

folding PF here would be pretty bad.

I think this is pretty close. Qx is definitely within his range on the river. there aren't a HUGE amount of 2 pair hands he could have if he plays even close to Tag in 3bet pots (KJ?, J9?) and even though your river betting range here is pretty polarized to str8s/air i don't think most people will look you up with AT/A9 here. I think i like a check.

This is a call preflop, if not you are giving up to much if he is 3beting like a normal non fishy aggro 2-4 player, IMO

Big difference between 86s 170bb deep and 95o 100bb.

River is so sick, hmmmm.... I can't really put him on a hand, but to narrow it down, I don't see a Q here almost never, which is enough to bet IMO. Since he took a really weak line he might look you up here

I check, but I'm not happy about it. I don't think you're getting called with anything in villain's range other than QJ/QK.

i dont see why u would bet this river.......i cant see him calling u here with anything u dont beat. Unless he has been known to make some highly speculative calls with hands like two pair here.

oh btw i call preflop in ur situation too

I don't mind preflop at all.

I bet slightly bigger on turn, unless pace of match dictates this as the bet size because you have been bluffing a lot or whatever.

I don't really like betting this river especially with given stack sizes.

Pls say that you moved in and that he showed two pair, pls pls pls pls lol

Timing should give you a good idea whether its even possible he has a Q (no pause no Queen), I like a shove because you will get looked up here. I mean we are only looking at QT and occasionally Q9 and he will lead the river a decent % so I I see tons of value here. I shove it.

Good point on the timing

Was too lazy too write it in my 1st answer but like cwar is saying, Qx leads river alot. But I take back my move in answer, did'nt notice the stacks, but def bet

yeah, we only bitch and moan pf about offsuit hands, the sooooooooted stuff is sooooo much better, lol

I would still bet this river. probably bet/call even.

I like check or shove, betting 0.5-1 obv sucks with these stacks. I think I check here 70% shove 30%. Depends on gameflow and villain mostly, how likely he'll call with worse.

I do bet 144

pls extend on timing here

I agree with timing being important here but i dont play too much emphasis on it unless i have a read from previous hands. You'll find that a Q would pause, even for a split second. An insta check would lead me to want to bet. If i decide to do so it would be a push.

HERO CHECKS cause he's a pooooosy, Villian shows KJ and rips me saying "HORRIBLE CHECK", but hero busts him later.

Realise I came in after results, but I would shove river here. In his eyes you can only shove with a Q and there aren't a huge amount of hands containing a Q you should have here depending on how you'd play the turn with a hand like QT. I think you might get looked up lightish here especially if he's seen you multiple barrel bluff. Timing is a very good point, though.

How could he possibly call a 60$ bet in a 72$ pot on the flop with QJ or QK ?
I don't think these hands are in his range

hmm, u never float with 2 overs and a gutshot/OESD ?

Yea sorry, i admit QJ could call, but calling with QK or KJ is EV- I think. Anyway I can't really tell, since I don't know how much implied odds hero is ready to give.

You don't seem to be aware of it, KJ is a double gutshot on the flop.

He just said that because he thought he had the best hand when you checked. If he can show up with KJ here I think he has more Qs in his range, but I'm still moving in