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02-04-2008 , 08:15 PM

$upermad4it

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Party Poker $400 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MP: $195.00
Hero (CO): $1100.20
BTN: $861.50
SB: $801.10
BB: $500.70
UTG: $364.00

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with A

2 folds, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, SB calls $10, 1 fold

Flop: ($28.00) 8

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $20, SB raises to $70, Hero ?

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BTN: $398.00
Hero (SB): $964.90
BB: $899.10
UTG: $310.97
CO: $406.00

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with 2

3 folds, Hero raises to $16, BB calls $12

Flop: ($32.00) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $24, BB raises to $60 Hero?

I've been aggro at both tables so 3 bet could mean anything. Villains are standard TAGs. Whats the plan here?

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02-04-2008 , 08:17 PM

aislephive

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Call both.

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02-04-2008 , 08:19 PM

$upermad4it

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at what BB amount is the cutoff for you to call instead of raise? C/C blank turns also?

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02-04-2008 , 08:57 PM

berserk

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100bbs get it in usually, 120+ish call usually, and can do different things on turn (c/fold, donk..., c/shove, c/call)

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02-04-2008 , 09:47 PM

krmont22

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How do we play the Ace of clubs on the turn in both? (assuming we called on flop)

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02-04-2008 , 09:50 PM

cbboy

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Well, if we have the Ac, I would recommend folding since we don't really have anything draw...

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02-04-2008 , 10:30 PM

pepeman

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There is only one way to play it:

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BTN: $1390.49
SB: $585.00
BB: $582.00
Hero (UTG): $1340.73
CO: $1052.00

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with A

Hero raises to $21, 1 fold, BTN raises to $78, 2 folds, Hero calls $57

Flop: ($165.00) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $144, Hero raises to $1262.73 all in, BTN calls $1118.73

Turn: ($2690.46) 3

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($2690.46) 2

(2 players - 1 is all in)

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I would make a strong RR in the first hand and on the second just call.

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02-04-2008 , 10:41 PM

MTBlue

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Originally Posted by pepeman

Hero raises to $21, 1 fold, BTN raises to $78, 2 folds, Hero calls $57

Flop: ($165.00) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $144, Hero raises to $1262.73 all in, BTN calls $1118.73

Turn: ($2690.46) 3

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($2690.46) 2

(2 players - 1 is all in)

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I would make a strong RR in the first hand and on the second just call.

Why would you reraise the first one?

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02-04-2008 , 11:31 PM

pepeman

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Originally Posted by MTBlue

Why would you reraise the first one?

Because in the first hand, the only hands that you should be afraid are basically sets, so he is representing a really small range. I doubt he calls with low-mid suited conectors out of position. You will get him to fold a lot of hands imo, and maybe he flats your raise with a smaller draw, etc.

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02-04-2008 , 11:40 PM

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MTBlue

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Originally Posted by pepeman

The board texture in hand one is such that it hits alot of his range. People play mid suited connectors all the time oop and cold call all the pocket pairs that hit sets. 3-betting lets him shove over the top and I guess we have to call but we will never have better than 36% against the range so we are burning 1/2 to a full buying to win that pot.

Hand two would actually be a better 3-betting hand b/c he either had KT or bottom set or a draw. His range will be much more heavily weight toward draws when he raises.

I still prefer a call in both hands because the hands he raise folds are mostly smaller flush draws which we want to keep in.

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