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08-14-2010 , 05:11 PM
Can someone give me some insight about my stats? These are the stats for this month at 6max 5nl, PS. Any help is really appreciated. I recently moved up to cash.

This is around 4.6k hands

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08-15-2010 , 10:45 AM
Can someone tell me which stats I need to filter to see if my game is good?
Is there any thread about filtering HM database? I couldn't find myself..
I played 10k hands 20NL and a little 10NL.

Thanks.
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08-15-2010 , 02:30 PM
So here's my story:

I started playing poker in April and decided I would try Fergunson's 0-10k challenge. In late April, I finally won a freeroll and started playing $2 sit-n-gos until I got my bankroll to about $30. Then, I read Sklansky's Small Stakes Hold'em and started crushing the 5NL. Moved up to the 10NL and played even better there. Slowed down a bit on 25NL, but after 2 months my bankroll was over $500. Eventually, I was performing at about the 2.5 BB/100 at 25NL and 50NL and on Aug 1st I was at a healthy $1400.

Then, two things happened. First, I became a fan of Poker After Dark and High Stakes Poker on Hulu and would watch episodes while I played and started reading NL Hold'em Theory and Practice . You can imagine that with this growing supplemental income, I might want to immerse myself in poker to maximize profits. Next, my father got sick (he's doing better thankfully).

These two factors, along with a 2 week streak of soul-crushing beats, have combined to terrorize my bankroll. $1400 dollars 2 weeks ago has become $390. I have stopped playing 50NL and feel demoralized.

Basically, my question is what do you guys think I should do to improve? The way I have made money in the past is by playing "nit" poker on 4 tables at a time. I feel like part of the reason I started playing worse, aside from being stressed and emotional, was that I would stay in hands I wouldn't before, trying to play like the pros on TV and thinking about implied odds. Also, I have problems bet-sizing top pair, especially on the turn and river. Does anyone recommend any book or articles on this forum that you have found effective at these stakes?

I'm just kind of shell-shocked that I lost 1k in 2 weeks after it took me 3 months to build that. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Update: I posted this a few days ago and was told to post it here. My bankroll is now under $200!!!! It feels like I haven't won a nice pot in days. After beating the 50NL I am back on the 10NL tables and know that this is going to take months to rebuild. I'm crushed.

Here's a picture of the chaos:



HELP
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08-15-2010 , 06:05 PM
I'd try to make a sweat session with you.. but I can't send you PM don't know why.

- review hands where you lost, don't look at coolers and suckouts
- review hands played in 3bet pots
- analyze your database
- TV poker is for people that don't know what poker is in real game.. I wouldn't try different lines seen on TV in online.
- I hope your father is well now!

There will always be two parts of poker: emotional and game itself. Try to avoid first one and start working..

PS try to send me PM?
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08-15-2010 , 06:38 PM
Can't send PM's until you hit a certain # of posts.

Nobody can see what you're doing with such little information.

don't try to play like people on TV.

Institute a stop loss.

Drop down sooner. Sometimes when I'm having a crappy day and start to play bad, I drop down for a short bit, just to get my head on straight, then when I feel like I've snapped out of it, I move back up.
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08-15-2010 , 08:56 PM
Just started grinding 5NL once again


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08-16-2010 , 12:42 PM
You need more hands, but after quick review you need to loosen up your game. Also, your attempt to blind steal should be around 40% min
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08-17-2010 , 02:17 AM
Just moved to 6max a month ago. I was adjusting to it at FTP 5NL and then moved up to 10NL and was doing extremely well. I moved to Pokerstars 10NL 40-100bb (which are significantly tougher) and I am down quite a bit.

The downward redline is a result of going to pokerstars.






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08-17-2010 , 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by floatingturtle
Oral, the thread I linked to in my first response has all the information you need to crush nl2 and more. If you take the time to read through it you'll be well on your way.

Also, I'll add that your cbet flop is way too low for how tight you're playing pre. You probably tighter than anyone else sitting at the table with you, and in theory your cbets should get more respect. Of course it is nl2 so probably most people aren't paying attention. That said, you're still going to be ahead on most flops or at least not far behind and villains will play passively and let you take free cards or sometimes even call with worse than what you're bluffing. So put these guys to a decision on more flops.

On a similar note, if I remember correctly you were folding to like 70% of cbets. Start lowering this number by observing your villains and see which ones will cbet the flop once and then check fold a lot of turns. As your post flop play improves you'll see more spots where you can take people off their hands. Don't go too crazy though; Beating nl2 is almost entirely about value betting.
Thanks for the advice. It's all actually helped. I couldn't take 2nl seriously tbh, it jsut tilted me. So I've moved to 5nl and I've been doing a lot better. My non-showdown winnings has jumped signficantly. Thanks :P
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08-18-2010 , 08:26 AM
Last few months of 50NL, feel I could do better, I notice I am losing more than a lot of players in the SB, BB is not great but 30/100 isn't abnormal, I try and sit next to tight players but maybe unopened pfr is to high? SB 3bet is lower than most aswell, whats ppls 3bet SB%??

thanks for any help

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Graph for last few months, any advice on NSD greatly appreciated!!

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Edit....First time posting images...wtf?!!
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08-19-2010 , 08:31 AM
what does river call efficency refer to?
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08-19-2010 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeRad89


Anything blatently obviously wrong with the above stats that people can see? Struggling to beat the stakes I am playing at after moving up. All feedback welcome.

Thanks in advance Luke
This is what I think:
Your vs 3bet call is too high, NEVER flat 3bet OOP and avoid IP too unless ur deep vs weak player. You open too wide from SB, and probably calling 3bets from BB which is usually very big leak. You should open tighter from SB when there's aggressive reg or some fish in BB. You are also going to showdown too often, 33% is too high, this could be leak, since u probably have trouble laying down TP-like hands. You also defend ur BB too much, I don't know if ur calling or 3betting, ur stats by position would help.
Hope it helps.
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08-19-2010 , 09:12 PM
Hello guys!
I`ve been looking at my stats and can`t see anything obvious.Please help me out :/
Thank you in advance.



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08-20-2010 , 05:50 AM
Ok Im kinda new at this site and want to share my experience and results too, Started playing poker for the first time about 4 years ago and dreamed of making a bunch of money by cashing on tournaments ((I refused to play cash games cuz theres no preasure playing 2NL and protecting yur hand was (and is) kinda imposible, its was just a joke.) and looooong story short I ended up hating mtt´s with all my soul cause I was so close a bunch of times, playin stts kinda always breaked even. The last bad beat tournament i just decided to quit leaving $14,98 on my account. Late aug/09 I moved from my hometown.. and realized that I just couldnt drop all this experience (about 3 years playing a LOT!) and love to the game to the trash can and compiled all I knew to cash games and find out if I could build a bankroll with constancy.
From August 26/09, $1NL, 0.01/0.02 on stars Ive been grinding a decent amount of hands rearanging strategy everytime I fall, strict Bankroll Management and its been tough but pretty fun. I still dream of the big bucks :P. Anyway, here are my stats
PD: I bought PT3 about 2 months ago, pretty awesome! glad to have activated to save the hand history from my cashgames adventures.
PD: My english may be bad, sorry :P.



Any feed back is apreciated!
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08-21-2010 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Astroxss
If i would folded every hand from blinds, including AA i would lose from blinds 100/6 = 16,6 x BB+ SB

16,6x 1,5= 24,9 bb/100

Who told that "we" should defend blinds
This was posted a long time ago but was never really answered. I was wondering the same thing recently. If you play 6-max, you post about 17 (16.6 rounded up) SBs and BBs per hundred hands you play. So, if you just folded every blind, your losses would be 8.5bbs/100 in the SB and 17bbs/100 in the BB. So if you are losing more than that, you could increase your win rate just by folding everything. Is that right? It seems nutty, especially since most people (me included) lose more than that from the blinds...
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08-21-2010 , 03:47 PM
hello

im looking for advice from u guys. these are my 6 month hands history stats from 6max tables. i would like to crush the game, but im just small winner (in fact i feel more like breakeven luckbox, not winner)

what areas of study u suggest? what stats look odd? any suggestions would be strongy appreciated.

if some of u look for poker buddy to analyse with and talk about the game please send private message to me. coaching me for winnings share are also possible. im just very motivated to move forward and start crushing for real






thank u all for responses!

Last edited by prozac; 08-21-2010 at 03:56 PM.
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08-22-2010 , 12:18 AM
looks like ur playing way too loose from the blinds and you could open up from the btn and LP alot

also you could aim for much higher aggression on the flop and turn
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08-22-2010 , 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Comstizzle
looks like ur playing way too loose from the blinds and you could open up from the btn and LP alot
is ur observation based on 'fold to steal' kind of stats? i was thinking i fight back quite large chunk of blinds back (see positional stats), they are just rotating too fast on 6max tables

what vpip from lp/btn to aim for?

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also you could aim for much higher aggression on the flop and turn
is it just cbet kind of stats or overall aggression? what AF is optimum for my kind of style on those streets? my conventional wisdom says AF=2.5 is good

thank u, want more
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08-22-2010 , 05:42 AM
i did filter some hands when im on blinds. damn, it would double my winrate! ty
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08-22-2010 , 08:41 AM
i based that fold to steal and vpip from the blinds. i personally wouldn't recommend playing more than 15% of hands from the blinds.

there's no magic number of what good Af are, it's more about the spots in which ur aggressive but that said the numbers i think say ur playing back alot by calling where raising/betting/folding could be a better
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08-22-2010 , 12:06 PM



I started off as a full ring player, working my way up from $25nl to $100nl over about 125k hands but decided to switch to 6-max.

Most people are going to say I am a nit and I think this is due to the fact I started off playing at FR.
Positives:
--> decent winrate
--> good steal rate
--> good AF and AFq

Negatives:
--> 17/15 is a bit tight for 6-max
--> W$WSF, WTSD and W$SD are all a bit low given that I play 17/15 (I think)
--> Fold to 3b possibly a bit high given my tight opening range
--> I fold to steals too much
--> Flop and turn c-bet is low

Any thoughts appreciated.
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08-23-2010 , 02:30 AM
My first post for stats I'd appreciate any help, I'm not sure where to start really so whatever you've got.




I know there's some huge leaks in there somewhere I just don't know where they are. It would also be great to know what to look for when I'm analyzing my own play.

Thanks for any feedback.
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08-23-2010 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by prozac
hello

im looking for advice from u guys. these are my 6 month hands history stats from 6max tables. i would like to crush the game, but im just small winner (in fact i feel more like breakeven luckbox, not winner)

what areas of study u suggest? what stats look odd? any suggestions would be strongy appreciated.

if some of u look for poker buddy to analyse with and talk about the game please send private message to me. coaching me for winnings share are also possible. im just very motivated to move forward and start crushing for real






thank u all for responses!
yes, luckbox, you're going on a terrible run soon.
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08-23-2010 , 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by st3v3k4hn
This was posted a long time ago but was never really answered. I was wondering the same thing recently. If you play 6-max, you post about 17 (16.6 rounded up) SBs and BBs per hundred hands you play. So, if you just folded every blind, your losses would be 8.5bbs/100 in the SB and 17bbs/100 in the BB. So if you are losing more than that, you could increase your win rate just by folding everything. Is that right? It seems nutty, especially since most people (me included) lose more than that from the blinds...
Your bb/100 in (for example) the big blind is taken over 100 hands IN THE BIG BLIND, therefore if you fold every hand you will lose 100bb/100 in the big blind. It is therefore usually not a good idea to fold every hand .
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08-23-2010 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by snglegend371
yes, luckbox, you're going on a terrible run soon.
any scientific explanation of ur statement? (other than the one suggested abouve: too loose on blinds)
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