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06-04-2009 , 04:25 AM
First couple of weeks playing poker online, started with a no-deposit bonus of 22 and am building up. Obviously I tried to move up to nl4 way too soon considering bankroll, what else am i doing horribly wrong?


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06-04-2009 , 08:50 PM
Non-Showdown is in the red, not a good thing. Focus on where you can isolate limpers and take money with no hand, cheaply. The way you do this is by playing in position, which you're also not doing. See all that red in your SB? That's because you're playing it. Don't. Worst position on the table. Message me if you have questions more specific
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06-04-2009 , 09:54 PM
What? He's doing great from SB. If you're losing less than 1/4 BB/hand from SB, this is a very good thing.

Having a redline like his is also fantastic. It can always be better, but most players would kill for a breakeven red line.

Obviously it's a small sample, but damn, what more than 14.5 BB/100 and an even red line do you want?
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06-04-2009 , 10:05 PM
don't worry about non-showdown. be happy you have your graph instead of jhair's.
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06-04-2009 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JHair
Non-Showdown is in the red, not a good thing. Focus on where you can isolate limpers and take money with no hand, cheaply. The way you do this is by playing in position, which you're also not doing. See all that red in your SB? That's because you're playing it. Don't. Worst position on the table. Message me if you have questions more specific
This is all pretty bad advice. While the sample size is small this posters stats and graph are about as close to perfect for this limit as you can get. Don't see a lot of NL2 posters with such solid positional awareness and aggression. Because of the loose play at this limit maintaining a positive red line is going to be extremely difficult (at least without bleeding a ****load of money and having a negative showdown line).

SB in the red? Ldo. If you fold your SB everytime you are losing 25bb/100. I don't think I've seen a positional chart where a poster has their SB in the green and very few players can maintain a positive BB.

Last edited by krimson; 06-04-2009 at 11:32 PM.
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06-04-2009 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JHair
All at 6max 10NL. I know it's a kind of low sample size. But I think my redline is doing well. Does this mean I'm running poorly?

Quit being a lagfish and value town more. You're only outplaying yourself if your goal is to win every pot by making people fold.
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06-05-2009 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by alexrjl
First couple of weeks playing poker online, started with a no-deposit bonus of 22 and am building up. Obviously I tried to move up to nl4 way too soon considering bankroll, what else am i doing horribly wrong?


Even though it's a small sample, this graph illustrates why having a breakevenish red line gives very high winrates
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06-05-2009 , 04:29 AM
The reason my VPIP is so high in the small blind is because with tight players in the BB I steal with up to ATC (obviously depending on how tight). I do also have a tendency to complete with SCs/some suited Aces/22-44 if there have been 2+ limpers and BB isn't raising much.

The BvB stealing I'm pretty sure is ok- are my speculative limps likely to be a leak because my position destroys my implied odds? Oviously I'm doing ok with it now but the sample is too small for me to be confident.

Thanks for all the encouragement btw
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06-05-2009 , 06:14 AM
is this bad, semi bad, or standard?
my last month =]

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06-05-2009 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by krimson
This is all pretty bad advice. While the sample size is small this posters stats and graph are about as close to perfect for this limit as you can get. Don't see a lot of NL2 posters with such solid positional awareness and aggression. Because of the loose play at this limit maintaining a positive red line is going to be extremely difficult (at least without bleeding a ****load of money and having a negative showdown line).

SB in the red? Ldo. If you fold your SB everytime you are losing 25bb/100. I don't think I've seen a positional chart where a poster has their SB in the green and very few players can maintain a positive BB.
Note the VPIP in SB, thats what I'm referring to. You're right about the red line, doesn't apply as much to 2NL, didn't put that together. But he is playing the SB way more than he should be.
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06-05-2009 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JHair
Note the VPIP in SB, thats what I'm referring to. You're right about the red line, doesn't apply as much to 2NL, didn't put that together. But he is playing the SB way more than he should be.
SB vpip is typically on the high side because of the opportunities to steal the BB when folded to. I think stealing with approximately the same range as you would from the CO is fairly +ev.
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06-06-2009 , 11:37 AM
Basic TAG doesn't work at micros anymore? Any obvious leaks??





Graph isn't quite as bad as it looks as I'm running 5 buyins below EV but even is I ran ok I would still be several buyins below breakeven over 6k hands.
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06-06-2009 , 11:40 AM
TAG works fine at the micros. I"m guessing you have serious issues with bet sizing. I.e. you're winning less with your winners @ SD and losing more with your losers.

Go look up some of your hands where you had a very big hand (set, straight, flush) and see how much you bet, and what the villain held. Now ask yourself if his action would have changed if you had bet larger.
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06-06-2009 , 11:44 AM
Ok I will have a look at that, not something I had thought of to be honest.

I never slow play except against a maniac and aim for 3 streets of value with strong hands but maybe I am doing something dumb.

So my stats have no obvious leaks?? Damn...
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06-06-2009 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tustuma
is this bad, semi bad, or standard?
my last month =]

no one not a single reply?
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06-06-2009 , 04:55 PM
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no one not a single reply?
No offense, but there isn't a whole lot to analyze. I can't even tell what limit you are playing. There's just a graph with no stats what-so-ever. It looks more like a thinly veiled brag than a stat check up request.

Last edited by Xerod; 06-06-2009 at 05:01 PM.
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06-07-2009 , 06:27 AM
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No offense, but there isn't a whole lot to analyze. I can't even tell what limit you are playing. There's just a graph with no stats what-so-ever. It looks more like a thinly veiled brag than a stat check up request.
if you do not understand what this graph shows, then don't comment please

I asked for a comment about the run i had, is it bad, standard or what. Stakes were nl25 if that makes any difference
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06-07-2009 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tustuma
if you do not understand what this graph shows, then don't comment please

I asked for a comment about the run i had, is it bad, standard or what. Stakes were nl25 if that makes any difference
I understand what it shows.
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06-09-2009 , 05:20 AM
Hello
1st of all i would like to say hello to everyone since i am new on this forum.
Some time ago i started to play poker with my wife we get into it more and more, done some reading and watched some videos. Couple times we remade our game almost completly. But still we are struggling to be on + but this time i don't know if there isn't also some bad luck included thats why i would like someone to review my stats together with graph and maybe give me some advice or info of whats wrong.
It looks to me like i lose pretty much every possible coin flip for last couple days.But than alot of peoples are saying that there is no real downswing on micro stakes its just bad play.
Sorry for small sample but due to changing game style older HH is useless.
And sorry for my bad english trying to do my best i hope everyone understand what i mean :P


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06-09-2009 , 05:46 AM
Could someone go over my stats please. Be great for some input.




Thanks.
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06-09-2009 , 05:58 PM
Hey Guys,

Here are my stats from the last month since I started tracking. They come from poker copilot on a Mac so there isn't the amount of data that most are getting from PT or HEM. Anyone see anything glaring? Cheers in advance!


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06-09-2009 , 08:55 PM




Hey y'all, long time lurker. Finally posting my stats & graph. This is all nl5 by the way. I think I'm doing ok, but I'm also kinda sure I got a lot of leaks.

some input would be appreciated!
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06-10-2009 , 01:42 PM
Small bump
Is being a 32/21/5.9 just plain wrong despite the results? Am i resultorientated if I think this is going the right way?
Will these stats have the same effect on higher levels?
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06-14-2009 , 10:29 PM
Hello, 2+2.

After being a member of other forums, I have recently decided to join 2+2 in an effort to take my game more seriously, and hopefully to the next level. I feel the move over here to this group is of particular good timing, as I'm contemplating a move to $50NL from $25NL (6-max, Full Tilt). I'm sure many of you have made this move yourselves, so I'm wondering if there is any particular stat that I should be looking to change. Additionally, any general tips would be appreciated. It isn't as if I haven't played $50NL before, but my sample there is admittedly smaller, although I haven't noticed a huge difference in that sample. A little while back I reached an even 100k hands of $25NL in 2009, with results as follows:





Any tips on translating my game to the next BI level? Again, any help is greatly appreciated and I look forward to (hopefully) contributing to the site as well.

Last edited by UncleBuck; 06-14-2009 at 10:41 PM.
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06-16-2009 , 08:45 AM
stat check please. all hands are from this year at 6max 50NL, mostly at Pstars. the most glaring thing to me is my cbet% has plummeted to 55%. it used to be ~65% but it seems every table i play lately, everyone has fold to cbet% of 30% or less (which is good for vb's, but bad for cbet'ing air). any other comments welcome.

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