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03-22-2009 , 10:16 AM
Anyone can please explain what the "avg all-inEv" means? And what 53% means?
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03-22-2009 , 03:21 PM
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Youve played 9k hands, come back after at least 100k
Here is a new bigger handhistory:











question is same, what iam doing wrong?

Last edited by iisak82; 03-22-2009 at 03:39 PM.
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03-22-2009 , 03:38 PM
You play 30/14 FR???

Seems you are a hughe LAG fish. You are by far to loose pre flop and cant play the hands profitably postflop, your WWSF is below 40%
Also the WTSD is too high playing that loose preflop. Your aggression stats look good, but it seems noone gives you credit due to your unbalanced preflop stats.

Tighten up preflop and you should be more successful with your postflop play! Especially in the blinds you have a VPIP of 40% thats crazy.

Are you positional aware? Your stats dont say that!

I would highly recommend you to sign up with a training site!
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03-22-2009 , 05:07 PM
WONWSF suck Can someone tell me whyy whyy...



5max

I tried to play tighten nothing red line goes down the same...

C-bet F 67%

Last edited by bumbum; 03-22-2009 at 05:21 PM.
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03-24-2009 , 06:29 AM
I've been stuck at the micro stakes forever and figure it's time stop lurking. Here are the hands I've played since the beginning of the year. It's been a pretty bad start for 2009 as you can see. My lifetime stats at 25nl and below are a little tighter than I've been playing lately (17.80/13.17 for 2.88 ptbb/100), so my problem may be due to not adjusting my post flop play correctly to this looser style. My style changed after reading fee's 6 max guide so maybe I'm having trouble applying the info from there. I don't want to revert to the tighter style as I feel like I need to loosen up to improve. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Let me know if you'd like to see any other stats:



Last edited by jct; 03-24-2009 at 06:41 AM. Reason: Forgot to combine ft stats with ps stats
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03-25-2009 , 10:04 AM
Can somebody help me please?
I had pretty good January, terrible February and now break even March. Is this normal or am I doing something terrible wrong?







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03-25-2009 , 12:28 PM
Is this the correct forum to try and get accurate values to have my stats color coded for 6max nl ??
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03-31-2009 , 03:46 PM
6max newb here. I've been playing cash game for 1.5months of FR at 25NL winner but this is my first 100% month of 6max and 49% of this month was at 50NL 50% at 25NL. 98% of my winning this month was from 25NL. I'm a barely winner at 50NL atm, I don't know why!?!? I know I am nitty as hell and probably too weak/tight.





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03-31-2009 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Boxerz
6max newb here. I've been playing cash game for 1.5months of FR at 25NL winner but this is my first 100% month of 6max and 49% of this month was at 50NL 50% at 25NL. 98% of my winning this month was from 25NL. I'm a barely winner at 50NL atm, I don't know why!?!? I know I am nitty as hell and probably too weak/tight.





1. Your sample sizes for each limit are very small
I dont think you had time enough to collect sufficient experience to move up that quickly.

2. Yeah you are very nitty, but actual i think the winrate in relation of being so nitty is quite good.

3. If you want to play regularly NL50 you need to boost your aggression, that also means to also improve your handreading skills as you have to play much more hands profitable.
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04-02-2009 , 08:14 PM
Wanted to post my stats to see if these are sufficient stats so far... took a huge downswing for more then 1/2 of my start.. but have stayed above water so far... just wanted to check stats so far and see if there are spots that need improvement.. im grinding 2nl

SIZE: 6 max HANDS: 10765(understand its small) BB/100=2.95 VPIP%=13.6
PFR%= 10.7 Agg= 4.21 Agg%= 27.3 WTSD%= 25.1 W$SD%= 54.5 W$WSF= 37.5 3BET%= 3.3 4BET RANGE= 1.3 VS 3BET CALL%= 52.5 FLOP VS RAISE FOLD%= 48.6 FLOP CBET%= 71.7 TURN CBET%= 43.5 FLOP FOLD VS CBET= 68.8 TURN FOLD vs CBET= 37.5
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04-03-2009 , 04:34 AM
2NL & 4NL on Ipoker for 15k hands. Anything >$30 is 4NL.








I can't figure out why the CO is negative
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04-04-2009 , 06:43 AM
I played at 50NL PS, but i cashed out for some reasons and now play at 25NL in this month...
My stats:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5823/stats1.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8828/stats2.jpg
Also i think my amount won on the button is too low, what do you think about that?..
Thanks for any observations!
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04-12-2009 , 04:49 PM
Hey guys,

These stats come from around 30k hands at 25NL on stars.

I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong - It seems to come from really high AF, and low WTSD. What can I do to combat this?

Also, anything else that stands out?

Thanks





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04-12-2009 , 06:10 PM
I can upload my graphs but not the position statistics, it tells me its some csv file and i cant photobucket it.

help

Heres my graph at 5NL on stars


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04-12-2009 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by andre-n-andr
I can upload my graphs but not the position statistics, it tells me its some csv file and i cant photobucket it.

help

Heres my graph at 5NL on stars

Move up?
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04-12-2009 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by EeeTeeKid
Hey guys,

These stats come from around 30k hands at 25NL on stars.

I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong - It seems to come from really high AF, and low WTSD. What can I do to combat this?

Also, anything else that stands out?

Thanks





I think you need to
-tighten up in early position
-cbet turn a bit more
-steal a bit more vs vilians that fold to cbet too much or fold to steals
-your agg% isn't too bad compared to your AF & WTS, so I think that you need to work on some alternative lines post flop. Such as pot controling and inducing bluffs from regs, taking more trappy lines vs aggro oppenents.
-looking to call pf a tiny bit more with a plan vs opp you know have leaks such as cbetting then giving up, or folding to cbet raises too much etc.
-3bet a lot more, 6-7%. Look for regs that fold to 3bets a heap 60%+ and 3bet them on a regular basis until they catch on, also look for calling stations that you can 3bet for value.

A lot of this stuff you will need to find stickies on etc to get further information, but these are the areas that I think need some work.

just my 2c

Last edited by fred4761; 04-12-2009 at 07:53 PM.
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04-12-2009 , 07:44 PM
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Move up?
+1
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04-12-2009 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jct
I've been stuck at the micro stakes forever and figure it's time stop lurking. Here are the hands I've played since the beginning of the year. It's been a pretty bad start for 2009 as you can see. My lifetime stats at 25nl and below are a little tighter than I've been playing lately (17.80/13.17 for 2.88 ptbb/100), so my problem may be due to not adjusting my post flop play correctly to this looser style. My style changed after reading fee's 6 max guide so maybe I'm having trouble applying the info from there. I don't want to revert to the tighter style as I feel like I need to loosen up to improve. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
The stats are ok, maybe you could up your pfr a percent or two. But the main problem arent the numbers its going to be your play. What you really need to do is go through your database of all the big losses, and really look to see if you played each hand correctly. More often than not at this level, if you are losing, youre probably stacking off too lightly, and bluffing at horrible times, and not value betting enough, which will affect your winrate tremendously.



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Can somebody help me please?
I had pretty good January, terrible February and now break even March. Is this normal or am I doing something terrible wrong?
Your stats actually look really good, except maybe your defending your blinds a little too light. The reason though that your break even, and even lost a bit at february is that youre not a very big winner, even though chances are that you are a winner. So my advice to you, take it or leave it, is to drop down, only play 6 tables max, 4 is better, and really concentrate on playing every hand as good as you can, and being more aware of your image(since you play sLag you need to adjust your game if you havent enough yet, just practice seeing things from other players point of view), keep posting hands on 2+2, try and answer other players questions, and focus on driving that winrate up. Once you get to at least 12-15bb, it will be extremely rare to not have a winning month. And then you can go to NL50 and repeat the process.

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Originally Posted by GU$$LE
Is this the correct forum to try and get accurate values to have my stats color coded for 6max nl ??
what do you mean? like on your hud?


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Originally Posted by storm88
I played at 50NL PS, but i cashed out for some reasons and now play at 25NL in this month...
My stats:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5823/stats1.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8828/stats2.jpg
Also i think my amount won on the button is too low, what do you think about that?..
Thanks for any observations!
Your button winning are too low, or the rest is too high

your blinds are extremely good though, I wouldnt change anything there.

small sample, but looks good, just make sure youre not trying to steal against stations, table selecting can have a lot to do with this(idealy nits to the left, stations to the right)
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04-12-2009 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fred4761
I think you need to
-tighten up in early position
-cbet turn a bit more
-steal a bit more vs vilians that fold to cbet too much or fold to steals
-your agg% isn't too bad compared to your AF & WTS, so I think that you need to work on some alternative lines post flop. Such as pot controling and inducing bluffs from regs, taking more trappy lines vs aggro oppenents.
-looking to call pf a tiny bit more with a plan vs opp you know have leaks such as cbetting then giving up, or folding to cbet raises too much etc.
-3bet a lot more, 6-7%. Look for regs that fold to 3bets a heap 60%+ and 3bet them on a regular basis until they catch on, also look for calling stations that you can 3bet for value.

A lot of this stuff you will need to find stickies on etc to get further information, but these are the areas that I think need some work.

just my 2c
Thanks for the analysis.

I'll go through them in my order, cause I think some I definetely need to work on, others I'm not so sure.

1. I was actually recently about 3% or so tighter in EP, and was told to loosen up a little. Instead or raising say AJ+, ATs, KQ, KJs, all PP's, I started adding in 78s-QJs, and some Axs, which made an extra 3%. What do you think?

2. Hmm, I thought that the margin between my c-bet flop and turn was ok. FWIW my c-bet flop and turn might be a little less than average because all I do is hunt fishes, meaning less nits/TAGs etc I flop against. I don't know how accurate this is, but what is a decent margin between the two? This seemed pretty good to me.

3. I thought 39% was more than ample for stealing?

4. Definetely something I need to work on, number 1 point. I need to get out of the thought oh this is a standard value bet, I need to really start getting reads on the players, and think about my betsizing and the consequences on further streets.

5. I wasn't too sure about this one either. I've been trying to call IP with more hands such as 78s-JTs , PPs, Axs for the most part. But then at the same time I read Pokey's post where you shouldn't really be cold calling. Another grey area for me. Any ideas?

6. Again, another aspect which I'm not so sure about. I've been having trouble in 3-bet pots (Light ones that is), so I've decided to stick away from them unless it's vs a TAG/NIT thats folding a ton, and I got pretty good reads on post flop. I also think this will be a bit lower than general if I seek out the fish games.

Thanks again
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04-12-2009 , 11:58 PM
Im getting murdered out here. plz help!

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04-13-2009 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by EeeTeeKid
Thanks for the analysis.

I'll go through them in my order, cause I think some I definetely need to work on, others I'm not so sure.

1. I was actually recently about 3% or so tighter in EP, and was told to loosen up a little. Instead or raising say AJ+, ATs, KQ, KJs, all PP's, I started adding in 78s-QJs, and some Axs, which made an extra 3%. What do you think?

2. Hmm, I thought that the margin between my c-bet flop and turn was ok. FWIW my c-bet flop and turn might be a little less than average because all I do is hunt fishes, meaning less nits/TAGs etc I flop against. I don't know how accurate this is, but what is a decent margin between the two? This seemed pretty good to me.

3. I thought 39% was more than ample for stealing?

4. Definetely something I need to work on, number 1 point. I need to get out of the thought oh this is a standard value bet, I need to really start getting reads on the players, and think about my betsizing and the consequences on further streets.

5. I wasn't too sure about this one either. I've been trying to call IP with more hands such as 78s-JTs , PPs, Axs for the most part. But then at the same time I read Pokey's post where you shouldn't really be cold calling. Another grey area for me. Any ideas?

6. Again, another aspect which I'm not so sure about. I've been having trouble in 3-bet pots (Light ones that is), so I've decided to stick away from them unless it's vs a TAG/NIT thats folding a ton, and I got pretty good reads on post flop. I also think this will be a bit lower than general if I seek out the fish games.

Thanks again
1. PP's/KQs/AJ+ should be about 10%. I think 12 is fine and 16 is too much. I think at 25NL, anything more than 12 is a bit of a leak. Only time I generally deviate is if there is a fish in the blinds or something. Increasing your opening range UTG is someone you do after you move up a few more levels.

2. Because cbetting is so popular (ie bad regs cbetting 100%) a lot of players will peel with anything but will shut down after that. Identifiying these villians is gold. Your cbet turn % is probably not overly exploitable but it was just something to think about.

3. yeah, missed the steal stat, I was looking more at the button pfr. 40% steal is good, but be always looking for situations to steal and not steal. ie vs stations that arn't folding to cbets/any bets, you will need to tighten up, vs 2 guys with fold to steal stats over 80%, you need to pound until they start combating you (sometimes never).

I orginally was thinking if you are going to be reducing your UTG range that you could add more hands to your button but you are stealing a fair bit. However, when you increase your 3bet amount your overall vpip/pfr will increase a good amount as well.

4. if you play less tables it will really help. I have dropped back in tables and started writing heaps of notes, and even if you arn't using those notes straight away it helps keep you concentrating on the game, always trying to find things to exploit.

This is obviously your biggest area that you need to improve, and its impossible to tell you how to do it, as its just situations. Read/post more hands.

Another thing that I thought of is, don't be raising people that you think are bluffing, you need to c/c all day long, if that is your read. Raising will just make them fold their bluffs and continue with hands that have you beat. This is just something that I had a bit of a problem with a while back and it took some time to work it out (not sure if you have the same problem). I would just think, this guy is bluffing here a ton, and insta shove. This is a massive leak.


5. you need to do it with a reason not just all the time. and if they are folding to 3bets often pound them with these first, then to improve your image, call IP instead to mix it up if you know they have leaks post flop.

6. if you are 3betting IP, regs won't call you OOP, they should be 4bet or folding. Generally their 4betting range will not be enough to compensate for your high 3betting.

Its tough at 25NL as there are lots of people who will call 3bets, and you can't be 3betting light if they are calling. Pick your opponents wisely.

As I said last time, this is just my opinion. Look futher into all the areas discussed.
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04-13-2009 , 12:03 AM
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Im getting murdered out here. plz help!

your stats arn't that bad, only small increases such as stealing a little more, 3bet a little more.

You are just going to have to post/read more hands. gl
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04-13-2009 , 12:13 AM
well thats my month. this is overall. FML!

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04-13-2009 , 04:41 AM
First off, loosen way up from the CO and BTN as far as opening pots and isolating fish. If there's not a lot of thin spots to open in LP then you need to switch tables where you have loose limpers on your right.

Try to get your steal % up to 50%+. It might not reach that high at first, but just try it. This should increase your WWSF, thus winning more non-sd pots, thus flatting out your red line.
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04-13-2009 , 03:58 PM
Some critique on my 6max 5NL stats please. Small sample thus far, I know.

From first glance I noticed my steal % is a notch low... any ideas on how I can open up more from CO/BTN? I think I'm usually somewhat tentative about my ranges especially when there has been limpers in front. For that matter, should I be opening up more in general? Is 18/14 too nitty for 6max?

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