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08-23-2014 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BBBray
How can I improve my earnings on the button? Is it normal to have most of my earnings coming from later positions? It irks me to have such low earnings on the button but is it to be expected?
Your BTN earnings should be highest, but it looks like you're playing NL5 mainly, and your BTN is only aronud 4-5 buy ins off your CO, and since you've only played 10k hands i'm sure its a sample size issue.

Open more hands, Flat raises with more hands. 3bet bluff more hands.

Its very unlikely that you just happen to be awful when playing IP, so its almost certainly a sample size.

Yeah it should go roughly BB -- Sb - EP - MP - CO - BTN in order of winnings. Some might have BB above SB depending on how good they are at squeezing etc I dno.
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08-23-2014 , 07:09 PM
Do I also call down 3bets or 4bets or walk away at that point?
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08-23-2014 , 07:38 PM
Roughly speaking never call a 4bet. Obviously there are exceptions but theyre rare. You should be quite polarized with your 3betting on the btn ( I.e good hands that you want to go all in with and trash that you can fold) so just shove when u have it.
Vs 3bets from the blinds it depends on their range, their sizing etc... call 3bets with say 77-JJ , Kjs , KQ, AQ, AJ ..and then 4bet QQ+ , AK and maybe some bluffs
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08-24-2014 , 03:19 PM
Stats check please, currently a losing player and not sure in what positions i should be calling, raising and 3betting pre to get my VPIP/PFR/AF into acceptable figures:





I'm not happy with 15/12 but i just can't get the feeling at the table for where the appropriate places to alter my play are. I feel as though i have a reason for not raising or calling or 3betting in whichever spots i choose to. However it feels more like "i've found a reason to fold", which is very easy to do.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
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08-26-2014 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DashJackson
Stats check please, currently a losing player and not sure in what positions i should be calling, raising and 3betting pre to get my VPIP/PFR/AF into acceptable figures:





I'm not happy with 15/12 but i just can't get the feeling at the table for where the appropriate places to alter my play are. I feel as though i have a reason for not raising or calling or 3betting in whichever spots i choose to. However it feels more like "i've found a reason to fold", which is very easy to do.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
My initial thoughts... I'd start raising more on BTN/CO almost double it.

Also, looks to me like you might be posting blinds as soon as you sit down? Wait till they come to you before you post, you are losing money by paying blinds for a non full orbit.
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08-26-2014 , 10:50 AM
I have a question about HEM2. Is there a way to see your holecards merged with your position? I know there is a tab for holecards, and a tab for position, but I am wondering if there is a way to see your results with every combination of holecards at each position? I am particularly interested in looking at marginal hands UTG to see if I am playing them profitably or losing money with them to see if I should take them out of my range.
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08-26-2014 , 12:50 PM
Filter> heros position > EP.

Then you can sort results by hands.
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08-27-2014 , 07:37 PM
wrong forum.nvmmmm

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09-01-2014 , 12:33 PM
This is my first go at online 6max. Any help greatly appreciated.

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09-02-2014 , 05:06 PM
Too tight from sb.
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09-02-2014 , 07:17 PM
Hi 2+2.

I Finally realized how awful I am at this game, and I pretty much need any help I can get lmao.
Here's my 6max stats..
tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ac321e&s=8#.VAZOz_l_u9E

I appreciate any help, thanks
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09-02-2014 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroFishy
Hi 2+2.

I Finally realized how awful I am at this game, and I pretty much need any help I can get lmao.
Here's my 6max stats..
tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ac321e&s=8#.VAZOz_l_u9E

I appreciate any help, thanks
Is Sb PFR your actual Attempt to steal% from the SB? , if so its ridiculously low. You can steal up to 50% here , if not higher.
You should be opening more from all positions. Add in suited aces and stuf like KTs in MP,
Add in All aces, T9s , KTo, hands like that in the CO.

3bet should be higher overall, you're on the nitty side, and youll find it hard to get paid off when you get a big hand.

Flop cbet% quite high. Check behind some Ax on boards that hit your opponents range better than yours.
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09-02-2014 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by garyk5846
Is Sb PFR your actual Attempt to steal% from the SB? , if so its ridiculously low. You can steal up to 50% here , if not higher.
You should be opening more from all positions. Add in suited aces and stuf like KTs in MP,
Add in All aces, T9s , KTo, hands like that in the CO.

3bet should be higher overall, you're on the nitty side, and youll find it hard to get paid off when you get a big hand.

Flop cbet% quite high. Check behind some Ax on boards that hit your opponents range better than yours.
Thanks man, ill keep all this in mind

I'm pretty sure SB PFR and SB steal% is not the same, but I'll definitely loosen up
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09-03-2014 , 02:36 PM
Do these stats look ok for 5nl zoom?

WTSD 24%
WSD 55%
AF 3.9

Cheers.
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09-06-2014 , 01:33 PM
Hi guys. I'm usually a mtt player but I've been playing a bit of micro 6max and Rush on full tilt. I've been playing 25nl mainly with some 50nl mixed in.

Winnings graph looks pretty horrific to me as I've got a feeling the showdown line is meant to be higher than non showdown. Are there any other stats I can post to give a better idea of where I might be going wrong? Is this still the case for higher limits? As the reg to fish ratio is obviously different to the same stakes at stars.

I am susceptible to tilt every now and then, and have tilted off several buy ins at least. Could this be part of the problem?




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09-07-2014 , 10:41 AM
NL5 ZOOM:



I feel like I should tighten up from the blinds greatly, as they're the only thing that draws me back (also I should be winning more in other positions IMO, especially EP), any other things?
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09-07-2014 , 10:47 AM
Anyone?

My W$WSF is 45.7. My fold to cbet is 54.3%. Are there any other stats that are important? I know it's a smallish sample but I've looked through quite a few pages of this thread and can't find anyone with a similar graph to mine to see what kind of advice they were given.

I float occasionally and I try and play the player thinking about their range and my perceived range and I feel I am outplaying most players post flop which may be why I have a high non showdown line. I try to make as many useful notes as I can and use these to make decisions in future spots. I try and go for value but there aren't too many fish so it's hard to extract value from regs on the river (unless you are beat haha). A lot of the time I will have to check/call river to induce bluffs where I think they would fold to a bet occasionally it gets checked back by bottom pair or something like that but I think this strategy makes more $ than it costs me as a lot of players start to spew if you show weakness.

Not sure if 13.3% 4bet when facing 3bet is high? Many players 3bet light at this level especially in bvb and blind vs button situations therefore I feel I need to widen my 4betting range to exploit this, as not too many seem to be adapting to a 4bet. This is also my reasoning for 4bet calls being high.
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09-07-2014 , 11:03 AM
I will be happy to look through players databases and help them leak find etc.

I'm hoping to get into coaching in the long term, so it would be good practice for me.

PM me for more details.
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09-07-2014 , 11:08 AM
3.14

To me it looks like you are too tight from EP and too loose in the blinds. Stop the temptation to play hands just because you have some money in the pot unless you have good odds to play multiway or whatever. You should be 3betting a bit more from the blinds with the hand you are playing.

If I was you I'd loosen up slightly from EP. Are you overplaying your big pairs. AA, KK etc? If I notice a player that is tight from EP I will call behind with speculative hands like pairs/suited connectors to try and hit a flop hard and stack them. As some players just can't let these hands go if they have an overpair. People did this to me a few years back when I played a few couple thousand hands at 2nl. I thought people were just sucking out on me all the time but now I see that is what the issue was and it's clever play imo. 4bet range from EP of only 14% seems low to me and overall it doesn't look like you fold anything you open from EP if 3bet. Not sure if that is bad but doesn't really seem right to me. If I open AJo and player to my left 3bets I know I am not doing well against his range at all and will be dominated nearly always.

Take anything I've said with a pinch of salt as I've only been playing cash for two weeks and I'm asking for help myself as I don't really know what stats are good/bad or what is costing me money.
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09-14-2014 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rbunce
Anyone?

My W$WSF is 45.7. My fold to cbet is 54.3%. Are there any other stats that are important? I know it's a smallish sample but I've looked through quite a few pages of this thread and can't find anyone with a similar graph to mine to see what kind of advice they were given.
Hi,

your FC of 54.3% is too high. If you fold so much vs Cbets, cbetting vs you shows a profit with ATC (of course not on any board). Try to lower that to 40%.

Your WWSF of 46% seems decent. "Float" more, although I'm not sure if "floating" is a reasonable term in 2014, since you simply have to defend a minimum of 60% of hands to cbets to not get exploited.

Your WtSD of 33% looks way higher than average. This can mean you are sometimes too stationy, or it can mean you are not valuebetting thinly enough.
However, I am just getting back into "full grind mode" after a longer break, and I have seen people with comparably high WtSD numbers recently, so take this advice with a grain of salt. Maybe it's the way to go nowadays.

The FC thing, tho, is basic maths.

Your winrate in the SB looks fantastic. But it's probably due to sample size tbh.
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09-14-2014 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ollieeeee
Do these stats look ok for 5nl zoom?

WTSD 24%
WSD 55%
AF 3.9

Cheers.
Seem fine. Obviously they don't tell you much though, but nothing stands out
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09-14-2014 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rbunce
Hi guys. I'm usually a mtt player but I've been playing a bit of micro 6max and Rush on full tilt. I've been playing 25nl mainly with some 50nl mixed in.

Winnings graph looks pretty horrific to me as I've got a feeling the showdown line is meant to be higher than non showdown. Are there any other stats I can post to give a better idea of where I might be going wrong? Is this still the case for higher limits? As the reg to fish ratio is obviously different to the same stakes at stars.

I am susceptible to tilt every now and then, and have tilted off several buy ins at least. Could this be part of the problem?



Hey stats look good.
Regarding graph some players crush games with blue lines going straight up and red line going straight down, others crush with the opposite. Depends on playing style.
Depends a bit on opponents too. I'm a "blue line player" but when i play NL50 zoom my red line goes up.


It's good that you're looking to find leaks , but 4 bb/100 is very good these days, and if this really was your winrate you should be quite happy.
However, regardless of whether you're a crusher, break even player, or loser, get rid of the tilt.

If you stick with the cash, youll be grinding our 4 or 5 hours just to make a buy in or two. you'll realise how crazy the tilting really is.
I'd advise maybe keeping a spreadsheet, and writing down how much each mistake is costing you. Knowing exactly how much tilting is costing you can help.
You should probably run some numbers too. you never really "tilt off a full $25 buy in". even if you snap call a 100b shove with A2o while tilting, you still have equity, and the cost of that mistake will be around ~ $12 or so.

Also some of the moves you make that you feel are just throwing away money might well be + EV.
Important to understand this topic, as believing that you really did just tilt away a stack will cause you to tilt more.
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09-14-2014 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rbunce
Anyone?

My W$WSF is 45.7. My fold to cbet is 54.3%. Are there any other stats that are important? I know it's a smallish sample but I've looked through quite a few pages of this thread and can't find anyone with a similar graph to mine to see what kind of advice they were given.

I float occasionally and I try and play the player thinking about their range and my perceived range and I feel I am outplaying most players post flop which may be why I have a high non showdown line. I try to make as many useful notes as I can and use these to make decisions in future spots. I try and go for value but there aren't too many fish so it's hard to extract value from regs on the river (unless you are beat haha). A lot of the time I will have to check/call river to induce bluffs where I think they would fold to a bet occasionally it gets checked back by bottom pair or something like that but I think this strategy makes more $ than it costs me as a lot of players start to spew if you show weakness.

Not sure if 13.3% 4bet when facing 3bet is high? Many players 3bet light at this level especially in bvb and blind vs button situations therefore I feel I need to widen my 4betting range to exploit this, as not too many seem to be adapting to a 4bet. This is also my reasoning for 4bet calls being high.
I would have thought WWSF would be higher with a red line like that. Wouldn't worry about it though. Maybe look to lead out more in limped pots.

4bet range is more important thatn 4bet %.
4bet range would be 4bet% *raise first in %. So if you opened say, 50% on the BTN, then your 4bet range would be 0.5*19 = 9.5

Its important to not be expoloitable with 4betting, because 5bet shoving is just so easy. if you were opening 50% of your btns, and 4betting 19% then you would be exploitable, and the blinds could 5bet shove profitably vs you with any pair, AJs+...maybe even any two cards depending on what you 4bet.

SB is very high too, but depends on how wide you open here.
If you opened 50% in the sb and 4bet 21% of the time, your 4bet range would be 10.5 , which is very high and probably exploitable. if you open closer to 30% then i'm sure its fine.

You probably know yourself if people are 5bet shoving you too often, so i'm sure youre doing fine. But on the BTN , you're probably better off calling things like TT, JJ . No point 4betting them if villain will only shove with worse. If he will shove 22-99, then we obviously 4bet them.

Most of this is relevant to 100bbs deep though. i know a lot of zoom is played deepish, so 4betting them IP could probably become good again, not too sure.
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09-15-2014 , 02:58 AM
Thanks Gary some good advice.

My open from the SB is very low not sure on stats off the top of my head but it'll be lower than my EP open. I really dislike playing from this position, against more capable opponents anyway.

I will definitely start writing down details on pots lost due to tilt.
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09-16-2014 , 10:36 PM
So after 27K hands, playing on and off, I really want to make a change for the better. Being break even/slight loser for so long makes the individual hands themselves bring incredible highs when you're right, and take all confidence away when you're wrong. Seems like everytime I've grinded up a a pretty good stack, I get it HU all in with AA's and just get crushed. I've stopped check calling so much, and BELIEVE I've learn to 3 bet a bit better but thats just my take. I've been playing 4nl-10nl and maybe its my lack of expertise but it SEEMS they play about the same on Merge. Really looking for getting in a study group or hiring a coach but I just really would like some advice on which way to go.





Thanks for any feedback.
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