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09-06-2013 , 02:24 AM
Yeah I played around 6-10 tables while making those 22 BI
My roll now is 300$ after losing 22BI.
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09-06-2013 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sketosomania
Yeah I played around 6-10 tables while making those 22 BI
My roll now is 300$ after losing 22BI.
move down build up and crush again!! gl
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09-07-2013 , 10:03 AM
Just wondering about the amount i lose from the blinds/how much or little im playing from the blinds 17% VPIP from SB with -0.25 bb/hand and 14% from BB for 0.39 hand. Are these losing rates standard and am i too nitty from the BB? Cheers
FWIW this is over 90k hand sample
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09-09-2013 , 09:01 PM
Hello! I've been beating 2NL 6max over 50k hands, but every time I'd taken shots at 5NL I get smacked down. I've been posting hands, but never stats. How could I improve?





Thanks
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09-10-2013 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBaconWarrior
Hello! I've been beating 2NL 6max over 50k hands, but every time I'd taken shots at 5NL I get smacked down. I've been posting hands, but never stats. How could I improve?
Hard to say but you are likely doing something horrible wrong as BTN and position in general should be your money makers. It is hard to say what is wrong though. In contrast you seem to play EP/MP profitable. The sample size is quite small.

I think you should be already around breakevenish only by choosing a right table and stealing almost every time you get CO or BTN unopened. Even if you auto fold on the flop! And make sure you yourself penalize enough weak regs that open raise their CO/BTN near always by 3-betting. And isolate those limpers.

Other than that you probably fold a bit too much against 3-bets and fold too much in general as your WTSD is a bit low. Squeezing and 3-bet could be a tad higher. GL.
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09-10-2013 , 09:32 AM
Thanks. I think my BTN/CO results are in part due to run bad (hitting tops of ranges), but I've definitely noticed a pattern where my BTN winrate is lower than my CO.

If sample size is an issue, maybe combining my 2NL and 5NL 6max stats is fine? I don't think the play between the two stakes is too different?



Here is my BTN graph (looking at it now, I think I've figured out what's causing my low winrate, but could someone confirm?):



In contrast here is my CO graph:



And my UTG graph:



Thanks
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09-10-2013 , 03:45 PM
Seems that you have played those limits quite differently. Look your WTSD on the button, at 5 NL it is barely over 20 and combined it is around 2.7 % points higher, meaning that your WTSD have been good at 2NL. I think that sample size is enough to say that this is a significant difference. Given very low WTSD your SD winnings are surprisingly low. Your red line is also steep so ppl are folding a lot against you. You have probably been very unlucky OTB but I'm bit worried about low WTSD.
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09-11-2013 , 03:10 PM
Hello.

I would like to get some feedback on my play from NL2. I play @ pokerstars, zoom holdem. I will provide You with my graph and statistics from holdem manager, I would be gratefull for any advice. Thanks in advance !



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If you are unable to read it I have packed and sent it here :

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09-12-2013 , 07:23 AM
Hey there guys,

Not sure if this is the right section so if somebody needs to move it I apologise!

I've been playing for a while now, but mostly MTT's and live full ring cash in the local Dutch casino and never really committed to the grind so I gave it a shot with some remaining funds on PartyPoker and started up some tables of 10NL.

Like I said, I play on PartyPoker because I play on a Macbook so I have limited options. I use CoPilot but for some reason the latest update of PartyPoker has my HUD disabled.

I was wondering if anybody could point out some of my obvious leaks that I have since I have no idea if I'm doing something terribly wrong or if there's something that I might have to change when I'll be moving up.

Here's some statistics:







Of course it's only a small sample, but I've only been playing for 4 days.

As for another topic; rake, can somebody tell me if there's a website that compares rooms when it comes to rake?

Any help is appreciated!
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09-12-2013 , 07:38 AM
Looks like you doing really good. Stay tight, people will tell you that you are a nit but its definitely the way to go on these stakes.
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09-12-2013 , 07:40 AM
I didn't know you also played poker :P anyway

-Your ftcb is too high, seems like you're 'fit-or-folding'.
-Your agg% on river is really high, I actually never saw someone with a % higher than ~40% on river over large sample.
-You gap is marginal

I cannot answer your others question but I don't like PP because or their 'anti-reg' policy, although that may increase fish, so it might be better.
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09-12-2013 , 07:50 AM
Mjah, MTT is alleen reg filled en heb cash nooit echt serieus aangepakt lol, toch maar eens een poging wagen
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09-12-2013 , 07:52 AM
Tnx for the help guys!

As for the agg% river, I'm not sure if that's a leak or a compliment I'm valuetowning the **** out of these fishes? :P
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09-12-2013 , 07:55 AM
"Your ftcb is too high, seems like you're 'fit-or-folding'"

Think I might yeah, so you recommend peeling flops to see if people c/fold? Not keen on continuing bluffs if people c/call turns since fit or folding has worked so far hehe
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09-12-2013 , 07:56 AM
And what exactly do you mean by gap? Gap of what?
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09-12-2013 , 08:03 AM
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Mjah, MTT is alleen reg filled en heb cash nooit echt serieus aangepakt lol, toch maar eens een poging wagen
Ok, succes ermee tot nu toe heb je wel een mooie winrate

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"Your ftcb is too high, seems like you're 'fit-or-folding'"

Think I might yeah, so you recommend peeling flops to see if people c/fold? Not keen on continuing bluffs if people c/call turns since fit or folding has worked so far hehe
Depends on villain ofc, but I think that most of the reggish uNL players cbet way too much (like 80-90%), so against those you can easily peel flop, especially IP.

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And what exactly do you mean by gap? Gap of what?
VPIP/PFR gap, so you might call too much with marginal hands preflop.
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09-12-2013 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Patje90
VPIP/PFR gap, so you might call too much with marginal hands preflop.
Just think about what you said there. The opposite is the case if your gap is very close.

You really shouldnt look too much at these stats, besides PFR and VPIP variance is crazy and 20k hands is nothing.
Even after 400k+ hands I still found a lot of variance in a lot of spots when I looked at my microlimit stats.
Just move on post hands and move up if you have the roll. Dont fear nl25, its a lot cheaper rakewise and you wont have to adjust from nl10 at all your winrate will naturally rise. Nl10 is the most expensive limit rakewise.

Last edited by Rebuild; 09-12-2013 at 08:21 AM.
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09-12-2013 , 09:26 AM
20k is nothing, play more for accurate statistics
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09-12-2013 , 09:58 AM
Obviously will, just introducing myself and wondered if there might already be some things that I'm doing wraaaaang
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09-12-2013 , 10:10 AM
And how important are showdown winnings compared to non showdown winnings. I assume that at higher limits non showdown is pretty relevant, but seeing how micro stakes contain a ****load of stations I assume that it's pretty rare to see people crush it with a higher non showdown than showdown winnings, right?
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09-12-2013 , 10:11 AM
Don't try to fix what isn't broken.

People that say stuff like "your fcbet is too high" always seem a bit clueless to me, they once learned that there is a "perfect" number that you should have, and instead of analysing every situation and opponent individually they aim for certain stats. At higher stakes, these numbers become more relevant, because people are having a more exploitative approach to the game and don't just look at their hands like at 10 25nl etc.

Of course, certain frequencies could be exploited, but you always got to ask yourself if they are, and adjust accordingly, not aim for a number.

10bb/100 is really good, it's not likely to be sustainable, but that's fine.

Success ermee!

PS. Showdown winnings aren't that relevant, this also depends on who you're playing. I doubt it has to do with the stakes you're playing and even some of the bigger winners got negative numbers there.
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09-12-2013 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by (.)(.)(.)(.)(.)(.)
Don't try to fix what isn't broken.

People that say stuff like "your fcbet is too high" always seem a bit clueless to me,
There goes my confidence
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09-12-2013 , 03:23 PM
depends on that stat, really
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09-12-2013 , 03:31 PM
If you're winning, don't change a thing. Get a bigger sample and see what happens. Good luck
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09-12-2013 , 04:09 PM
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There goes my confidence
hehe, i didn't even know it was you that said that, and I don't mean you're clueless, because i know you're not.

It just seems like the wrong thing to do, at least, going with what is deemed "good" from a game theory perspective or something. Assuming x optimal frequency and trying to combat that with y optimal frequency seems very suboptimal to me because it could still be a lot of different things, they're just numbers at this point, and, nobody cbets optimally, avg's are way off the mean at any stake..

It might as well end up with OP x/c'ing 22 on JT9ss against a 13/10 trying to lower his fcb (obviously an extreme example, but you get the point).
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