@Sundance - you're posting in the 6max forum. Try the FR forum, they have similar stickies at the top to post stats in

I'm having trouble to beat nl5 zoom, although I feel like i'm running into cooler after cooler. I know i'm too nitty but I find it difficult to loosen up en to bluff and bluffcatch correctly





Why aren't my images working?

You could open up the 3 betting a some more, but that's not your main problem, and, in fact, if you opened up the LP 3 betting, you may very well have introduced a leak into your game that might help explain your low button win rate.

(You're also a bit low in the CO).

Variance caveat: You could just be running bad OTB recently, accounting for the low button win rate. Variance, both positive and negative, could be affecting all of your stats. That said, based on the stats you've posted:

1. You have a small-medium leak in the BB. Likely it is a combination of folding too much, old calling problems, and too few 3 bets.

2. You have a big problem in LP. Likely it is a problem with your new 3 bets, not stealing quite enough or profitably enough and maybe a problem with calling 3 bets.

Your WTSD is maybe a tiny bit higher than I would like to see it. Your W$SD is kind of high, too. This combination of stats indicates a leak that you are not appropriately betting your hands. You're taking 1 or 2% of hands to showdown that really ought to end before showdown because, for example, a bet flop/ bet turn line generates a fold, or because a villain folds to a thin value river bet. It's a post flop leak for sure, but where most of the mistakes are concentrated can't be determined without looking at positional post flop stats and, probably, several hand histories.

Both of those stats could easily be affected by calling a bit too much on the river, so you'll want to check your river call efficiency, too.

Upon further review () you have a very significant calling leak in position. You have a huge cold calling range and a very high fold to flop c-bet. So you're just donating 3bb with a lot of lines that are: call preflop/don't flop gin/fold to standard c-bet.

You need to work on that. The quick fix is to tighten up considerably preflop.

I'd like to upload my stats but don't really know how. Can someone help me or at least send me a link that explains how to do it? I currently don't have office so excel doesn't work either right now. Thanks

^Take a look at the stickies on how to upload images and go from there

Hi, this is my last 50K+ hands at NL25 (95%)

Can you please point out some obvious leaks ? Thanks




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Great, thanks alot for this review! Will try to tighten up for a quick fix and hopefully find some leaks in my postflop game and you're right about the calling 3bets and folding to cbets leak for sure.
If it's not too much trouble then what postflop stats would i need to upload to take a look at my postflop game?

Chip:

To work on the high WTSD/W$SD issue, I'd want to see:

Flop C-bet, Turn C-bet, River bet, River call efficiency, WTSD, W$SD, W$WSF and EV bb/100 on your position report page.

To work on the cold calling IP issue, I'd want to see CC%, Fold to flop c-bet, call flop c-bet, raise flop c-bet, W$WSF, WTSD, W$SD and EV bb/100 on your position report page.

The blind leaks are pretty complex, and describing the various filters there would involve a ridiculously complicated decision tree of if you see this, then do that.

But as a general jumping off point, on your position page, filter for did cold call = true, then filter for did 3 bet = true and all hole cards other than AA, KK, QQ and AK. If you see red in either of those situations, investigate further, or repost here and I'll walk you through it some.

ETA: I don't check this thread every day, so if you post those screen shots, go ahead and shoot me a PM to come take a look.

Hey all,

Heres my stats for ~19k hands at 10NL playing as a LAG:







Am having a long breakeven stretch for the past 10k hands so thought I would post here for some of your inputs. Will greatly appreciate any form of critiques!

Some points I'm a little unsure about and would love guidance on:
I have a flop cbet of 78.4% - too high? (I tend to barrel alot though)
I have a river call efficiency of 1.49 - seems a little low compared to that of others in the thread (perhaps from overuse/misuse of the b b c/c line?)
I fold to cbet only 35% of the time
I fold to flop raises to my cbet only 33.5% of the time (Should i be folding more given I cbet so much?)

And lastly, am I just running sick good? What wr will I be looking at in the long run?

tjayemmm:

Yeah, you're just sun running.

78% flop c-bet is a little spewy, maybe, but don't consciously try to reduce it. Chances are pretty good that part of the way you're running good is that you're getting good spots to c-bet way more often than you will in the long run. Instead of focusing on the number, just focus on each situation: did the board hit my perceived range? did it hit the villain's range? Am I HU or 3 way? Can I get called by worse or fold him off better?

If you're picking good spots and passing on bad ones, your flop c-bet% will naturally decline.

The fact that you're losing pretty big in EP suggests to me that you are probably spewing with your c-bets a bit, but your sample is really just too small to say anything definitive.

Your RCE is on the low side of what is achievable, but on the high side for what I've been seeing recently in players' databases.

Your fold to c-bet and fold to raise should both come up over time, but again, don't force it. Just focus on making the best decision for the situation. It's plausible that in a small sample like this one in which you're sun running, villains are just running into the top of your range.

The bottom line: There's really not much point in posting samples of under 40k hands. That's ESPECIALLY true when the sample is obviously skewed very heavily by variance. The sample is just too unreliable to use to draw firm conclusions.

That said: you're thinking about the right things; you have identified the spots in which your stats are out of line from what I would expect them to be. So just keep playing, keep thinking, and keep reviewing hand histories for the spots you've identified as potential leaks.

Once again, thanks alot for your effort.

Hope i did it all right, first stats are just with the ones you asked for, the second ones with the cold call = true and the third one with did 3 bet = true.



Middle and btn pos are red for did cold call = true, so i loose alot by cold calling on those positions?

Chip:

You set up the wrong stats on the cold calling issue, but it's no big deal, as the leak there is very clear.

Putting together a response now.

Chip:

OK, you didn't set up the screenshots exactly as I would have liked, so I'm just going to analyze the three screenshots without particular regard to my previous post.

Screenshot 1: This screenshot discloses two issues in your game:

1. Your blind losses are a bit on the high side, really just in the BB. The second screenshot makes clear why this is happening, so I'll get to that in the next section.

2. Your early and middle position stats are very strange. It looks to me like your EP stats are HUGELY affected by variance. Your win rate there, WTSD and W$SD are all pretty insanely high. So it looks like you're running really hot in EP, and it's messing up your stats.

Your WTSD and W$SD make it look like you have a big leak in not getting value from your hands, because you win so often at showdown--like 60% of the time. But that number could also be explained by small sample variance, and your win rate certainly IS being affected by a lot of run good in EP (not all-in run good, just hitting hands, getting paid, that sort of thing). So I'm inclined to write that off as variance, tentatively. Keep an eye on it. Your win rate and your W$SD should booth come down significantly. If your W$SD doesn't start coming down into the low 50s, you should conclude you're not betting your hands appropriately.

Screenshot 2:

Cold calling in Position

As I said, this screen makes your cold calling leak super obvious. Assume, for the moment, that variance is not affecting your stats in this spot. Now look at your cut off win rate when you cold call. It's 220/100, which is very high. You cold called 391 hands from the CO. Now look at the button: You called 981 times, way more, and your win rate went from 220 to -62. What, other than variance, explains that? The simple answer is that the wider range introduced into your cold calling game a lot of starting hands that you're not cold calling profitably.

As we discussed in the previous posts, your fundamental problem OTB is that you're calling way too wide and folding way too often when you don't flop gin.

Now, I started with the assumption that your sample was not unduly affected by variance here. In fact, I know it is being affected by positive variance, which is bad news for you.

Your CO win rate is on the high side; I think it's unsustainably high, and you can expect it to come down over time. Unfortunately, your button win rate is a reasonable loss rate, that appears to be relatively variance free. It's very common to see people cold calling for a long term loss rate around -60bb/100. So we have no reason to believe that your sample is radically different than what your long term loss rate will be if you don't change your cold calling game.

Fortunately, changing our cold calling game is pretty easy, as it mostly entails folding preflop. Just go to the holecards report, and filter for the button only, and then filter for did cold call = true. Look at the hands that are negative. You'll probably see some things there that will shock you, but really should not. My guess is that you'll have a lot of calls with broadway hands, and that you'll be negative with that group. My guess is that you'll also be negative with the suited connectors and suited one gappers that are in your range.

Being negative with these hands is a completely standard leak. LOTS of people are negative with even a range of AK/AQ when they flat in position, simply because of the post flop mistakes they make. So you can't look at, for example, AQ showing up as negative cold calling OTB, and think "oh,I only have 22 calls here with AQ, that's just variance." It's actually more likely that you really are playing that hand for a loss if it shows up there.

The reason I am confident about that is because of your high fold to flop c-bet stat, which indicates a strong fit or fold tendency. That tendency is a leak when calling in position with unpaired cards, which may literally be impossible to play for a profit by playing fit or fold. If not impossible, it's at least very difficult.

So you may have no choice but to tighten up your cold calling game considerably by folding preflop those hand groupings that are unprofitable for you. this is a temporary fix to stop the bleeding while you do tons of poker homework to learn how to better play these hands, and slowly work them back into your game in a very systematic way.

Cold calling from the blinds:

As I said under screen shot 1, you have a problem in the BB, and it turns out to be your cold calling game. You're actually not doing too badly--you're more or less break even with a medium-sized calling range.

Theoretically, when we're callin from the blinds, we want to find the widest possible range that we can call with and do better than the loss we incur when we fold the blind. So any win rate in the BB better than -1bb/hand is preferable to folding. So breaking even with your cold calling range actually isn't that bad. However, when we call with a reasonably tight range, we should expect to be able to achieve a higher overall win rate than when we cold call from the blinds with a really wide range.

What's going on in your BB win rate, is that you have a pretty tight range, but a win rate that's more appropriate to a really wide range. It is possible to win almost 1bb/hand 100bb/100 with your calling range.

What that means is that you're not getting enough value from a pretty strong range. Again, you want to go to your holecards report, filter for the blinds, and cold calls, and take a look at the hands that are losing money. I KNOW you're going to be shocked by what you see there.

Unfortunately, the answer here is not folding preflop. Folding from the button doesn't cost us anything, but folding from the blinds does. So, for example, if you have a -90bb/100 WR with KQo, you can't plug a BB leak by folding it and taking a -100bb/100 loss. But -90bb with KQ is a serious leak. So we have to work on plugging it. Again, it's a fit or fold problem, but there's no easy fix. It's just a lot of thinking about how best to play the hand, how to get more value with it when you're winning, how to lose less when you're losing, and how to win an occasional pot with air. It's hard.

Screen shot 3

3 betting in position:

You forgot to filter out the premiums (AK and QQ+) on this screen shot. But that's not a big deal, because it looks pretty obvious that there's a problem here.

My tentative conclusion is that the previous advice you received to open up your 3 betting in position has introduced a leak into your game. You win rate when you 3 bet in position is 83.7bb/100, including when you 3 bet your premiums. It's pretty likely, then, that when you filter out the premiums, your WR here will go negative. If that's the case, then opening up introduced a leak into your game. The reverse is also true; if your win rate does not go negative, it means there's a problem with your premiums. But that could just be variance.

If your win rate goes negative when you remove the premiums, and we establish that your opening up introduced a leak into your game, then:

1. That doesn't mean the advice was bad. It's just that there's a problem with your execution. The advice was actually theoretically correct, but was incorrect for you because of your tendency to play somewhat fit or fold (please don't take offense at that characterization, I'm just trying to be candid and help).

2. The actual leak could be several things, and likely is a combination of some. It's essentially impossible for me to diagnose the specific leaks without actually getting into your database and rooting around. But I will note that among micro stakes six max players, the problem is as often with their light value component as it is with their bluff component (bluffs are easier to play, after all ). It could be something as simple as 3 betting the right hands against the wrong villains, or it could be a subtle post flop leak.

3 bets from the blinds:

Eventually, you're going to need to open up your 3 betting from the blinds. Your WR here is sort of obscenely high, owing to the relative infrequency with which you 3 bet air. But we can't open up your 3 betting from the blinds until we figure out what the precise problems are with 3 betting on the button, and then fix those problems there, first.

That's about it for these 3 screenshots. I'm happy to continue helping.

Hey, I'm relatively new to analyzing stats, I just got HM2 and started using a HUD, Here's my first 11K hands at 2NL Zoom. Looking for advice on how to improve and plug leaks. Also I would like to know more about how to keep my red line positive, I'v been having a lot of trouble trying to do that. Thanks~

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Haha really needed to hear that to keep my ego in check. Anyway, appreciate it mpethybridge!

First of all, i aprecciate alot for the effort you're putting on analyzing my game! Can't thank you enough.

Secondly, sorry for not posting the exact screenshots you asked for, first time working with HEM like that and as English aint my first language, it's a bit complicated to understand some points at first.



Now as soon as you pointed out the cold calling leak with suited connectors and premiums, i knew you were right, cus i kinda took it into my game lately, and im quite sure thats where my WR strated to go down the hill fast.


Alright, so I filtered out what you told me to and exactly as you predicted, lots of suited connectors etc losing on the btn:



And broadways, small pockets and also some connectors being the losing hands on the blinds:



And about the third picture, imo i had the premiums filtered out for all 3 pictures, but if you could write down again which one your talking about specifically, i'd be more then happy to filter them again .

Hope i got the right stats and filters this time . And huge thanks for your help again.

Hey guys,
First time i post on stats checkup thread, just finished playing ~100k hands 10NL rush (strobe) on Ongame. Overall I play quite LAGgy, 31,9/26/13,1 with a high cbet % and i find the level on Ongame easy in general. However, i've only managed to beat 10NL for 2,62 bb/100, mostly because i had a couple of sessions where i couldn't stop bleeding BIs (which is something i believe i've made some progress during these 100k hands).

Any thoughts on the stats and/or suggestions to improve my game and increase my bb/100?


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Hi!
I playing nl5 at Pokerstars. I hope that you can help to me






Any advice?

Hey guys, I relly need some help with my game and with some observations I've made.

So this picture shows my results for this year so far, around the 65k hands mark i switched from FR to SH and as you can see there is a huge drop in my red line at the same spot.

Could this be from not defending my blinds enough?


Here are my stats by position from shorthanded so the last 40k hands. Lately i have been trying to opening my range from BU and SB(for the last 5k hands or so, so it probably won't show)


And lastly here are some stealing stats.




I'm currently playing zoom if that makes any difference.

What type of winrate are we looking for when we 3-bet with non premiums on the button and co at Zoom$25? I've got a 299 hand sample (199 button, 101 co) where I'm up 21 bb/100, however break even on all in ev.

Looking at coolers;

I've lost a flush over flush where I called $12 raise all in on the river on a paired board (is that a fold?).

I won a flush over flush where the betting went bet/raise/3-bet and he called with TP and a flush draw (so I had 40% equity).

Otherwise it's all just 3 betting and c-betting.

My overall three bet win rate in these situations is 143 bb/100, however again, the all in ev is less at 82 bb/100, which puts me in the same boat as Chipdiiler. This is a little bit of a worry for me, because in this particular situation I'm doing pretty well (3-1) with big pair vs big pair.

I've also run into two sets all in on the flop with aces in 23 opportunities. Not sure how much that is supposed to happen. My guess is this is pretty close to average.

My thinking is, 299 3-bets (403 counting premiums) is a small sample and i shouldn't draw too many conclusions. I'm also cutting myself some slack because these are the first 35,000 hands I've played since April, 2011. I also tend to think the sample needs to be larger because the calling range is so wide, introducing a lot more variance.

Oh crap, I blew it. This is PT3 so all those numbers are big bets.

Anyone want to look at these stats? I've been downswinging recently and these are the DS stats. 25NL and 10NL Zoom.

You cbet a lot on the flop with a wide range, and then give up on a lot of turns. That's something worth looking into.

Normally a WWSF of +50 indicates you don't give up on pots easely and in general it's viewed as a strategy that's hard to play against. I don't know if it's a good strategy to use at the micros though since people fold less.

Your steals are also very wide. I suppose 50 steal% is good at BTN & SB. But I personally steal a lot less from the CO since BTN 3bets wider and there's 3 more people left to act. If your CO steal is higher than 40% then you can try tightening up those ranges aswell and see what it gives.

What's your UTG PFR? How do you play in the blinds etc, maybe show stats by position.

Hello !
I'm new here,can someone please help me fixing my leaks and pointing on them.

I know that my game is leaky but dont know where,right now i'm in NL6,i skip NL10 and go straight NL20,i got 80 dollars more to earn for 40 BI,then i'm in NL20.

I'm playing 6max.

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I would be very thankful for looking this post and helping me !