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09-12-2008 , 06:24 PM
how do I post my screenshots?
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09-12-2008 , 06:45 PM
itsavest,

I'm not familiar with the program you use to generate your graph (guessing PT3 or HEM, I use PT2 and PokerEV), but All-in EV should simply mean how much you should have won at showdown for all of your all-ins combined. Simple as that. It says nothing about running hot or cold. All it really shows is that you tend to get the money in good. Now if you had another statistic such as all-in winnings, then you could compare that to All-in EV and the difference will show whether you've run hot or cold. Showdown winnings is not that number though, as it includes much more than just all-in winnings.
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09-12-2008 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by itsavest
Thanks for your opinion and you are certainly right with your suggestions about limping, and tightening up in IP. But I cannot believe that the ALL-in EV line can be interpreted as you did it.

Here is my overall graph of almost 100k hands NL50 and a about 3k hands NL100. I admit, I have a downswing recently, but does this graph looks like I should move down to NL25? Either there is something wrong with the EV line or I am the biggest luckbox on the planet.

I can not believe that I run more than 2000$ above expectation over almost 100k hands...

What to think of that?

From that graph, it does look like you are a winner at NL50 (3 PTBB/100 if my calcs are right, equity adjusted, 5.5PTBB/100 non adjusted). Just from your graph, both your showdown and non-showdown winnings are positive, which says to me that you play very well postflop, which probably compensates for preflop leaks. I'd say try to work on that for a little while at NL50 (raising more on the button, more overall positional awareness and preflop aggression), and then move up.

I am 99.9% certain that I am correct about the all in EV interpretation.
I have holdem manager, and if you go to the reports (1st tab) tab under cash games, you can add a stat called $ (EV adjusted) (lefty hand side, click +, under EV stats). This stat tells you how much $ you would have made if you were running at expectation (in all in before the river). So it should be around $3000 in your case, as this is where the all in EV line is at on your graph.

This doesn't necessarily mean you are a giant luckbox hitting 2outers galore! You could just be winning a lot more than your share of standard flips (ie, you won 30 out of the 40 TP vs overs+FD hands, 32/50 QQ vs AK AI pre hands). And it also doesn't count when say you have TPTK and the villain rivers his kicker to make 2pair, and you still had money behind, which would be running bad but not shown in the EV. This could be why it doesn't feel like you are running good.
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09-12-2008 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by itsavest

I can not believe that I run more than 2000$ above expectation over almost 100k hands...

What to think of that?

It's good to be you
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09-12-2008 , 10:33 PM
So when the "Loses money in non-showdown pots" is negative does that mean your playing bad post flop?
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09-13-2008 , 02:42 AM
No, not necessarily. A lot of winning players lose money in non-showdown pots, it's based on your style a lot. But if both are positive, it probably means you read hands well, ie, getting people to fold better hands and still getting value from worse.
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09-13-2008 , 04:21 AM
Check-up of my last 50k hands. Blacked out the winrates and $ won so the responses aren't skewed.
A lot of these stats are new to me so I have no idea what's standard

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09-13-2008 , 11:31 AM
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how do I post my screenshots?
Find a place to upload them. Then just copy the link and hit the "Insert image" paste the link and your done.
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09-15-2008 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JsTs
Check-up of my last 50k hands. Blacked out the winrates and $ won so the responses aren't skewed.
A lot of these stats are new to me so I have no idea what's standard

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09-15-2008 , 12:36 PM
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I am only referring to the first line, dunno much about the other stats.

Your stats look pretty much like my stats ( i have only a 25k sample and i am playing at 10NL). After reviewing many sessions i noticed my 3bet calling range when i was on the button and one of the blinds 3bet me was quite wide and i lost a good amount of money in these spots, especially when the stack sizes were not bigger than 120BB (62% Fold to 3bet).

Just an idea for leak searching.
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09-15-2008 , 06:05 PM
itsavest, to me it looks like ur running a couple of hundred dollars below EV. I think others are reading the graph wrong.

lately you've been getting it in bad too much, but meh looks like it could just be a blip.




JsTs (sp) what's your Won $ when seen flop %?

Stats initially look fine as I am sure you're well aware. I didn't look over all of them as most of them mean nothing to me.
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09-15-2008 , 08:02 PM
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JsTs (sp) what's your Won $ when seen flop %?
43% - top row, 7th column from right

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09-16-2008 , 08:58 AM
Hey guys, im trying to evaluate my game and looking for some pointers on where to look. Basically last month over 20kish hands i ran at 11ptbb/100 whilst being about 12bi below ev allin. This month over a similar sample i am losing at about 3ptbb/100 despite running closer to ev allin.

My vpip and pfr have been about 1% lower, but everything else seems to be the same; AF, WTSD, flop and turn cbet etc.

Any ideas as to where else i could look for the difference??
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09-16-2008 , 07:32 PM
I apologize for the double-post. I think this is actually the correct thread for this:

Here's my story:
After a long hiatus from poker, I started playing again in August. August was pretty brutal and swingy, but I changed my play at the beginning of September (tightened up a little bit, and raised more hands preflop).

What I want to know, is if I am just running super hot, or if some sort of change in my playing style has turned me into a winning player at this limit. I know I've been running good this month, but I also feel like I know when to get away from hands and when I'm behind, where before I felt like donks flopped disguised hands against my second/third best/

This is all .05/0.10 NL and I buy-in for 200bb. Where should I be to be rolled for 0.10/0.25 NL? Is the play that much different?

All Hands:



August:



September:


Let me know if you're interested in any hands.

Thanks,
geo
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09-16-2008 , 08:13 PM
i would probably make an evaluation after about 20k hands. It's not uncommon to run hot for 8k hands. Having said that, if you have the roll (ie ~20-25 buy ins) for the next level and believe your playing well, taking like a 5 buy in shot isn't the worst idea.
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09-16-2008 , 10:02 PM
He has like 40k hands, I'd say move up for sure. Definitely seems like a winner. NL25 is different. I played SNGs and NL10 on the side for a while, never was a winner at NL10. Then stopped all cash for a while, came back and played NL25 and have been a decent winner over 20k hands. So it was easier for me I guess, but I probably just became a better player. Less donks spewing off money though, but the level of play still isn't amazing or anything.
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09-18-2008 , 12:04 AM
so im worthless at posting images, but my question is that im looking at my stats and it shows me this month (having played 8k hands) at:
462.75 total winnings
486.39 won without showdown winnings
-23.55 showdown winnings.

I feel like this might be completely skewed and wrong to what people 'normally' have. can someone help clear this up for me?

Please let me know if ive given no info to go on and it doesnt make sense, or pm me and we can try to sort it out...

Thank you for any help you can offer me.
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09-18-2008 , 07:00 AM
What would be reasonable fold to riverbet percentage? And won showdown when called riverbet? Currently have folded to riverbet at 54% and won when called riverbet at 31%. Both feel very low, but I don't have any references.
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09-19-2008 , 06:46 PM
Hey all. I'm new to the forums and thought this might be a good place to start. I've been playing a couple years but until now have taken an extremely passive approach to learning and improving my game.

Here's a significant sample. Mostly 8 - 12 tabling FWIW. Anything stand out? I understand that my vpip and pfr should be closer. Most of the gap can be accounted for by frequent cold calling with low and medium pairs for set value. Is this such a crime? Anything else I should be concerned about?



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09-19-2008 , 09:28 PM
srry if i've missed it, but i was wondering what a good wtsd for 6m lhe is?? i havent used a hud until now, and am trying to get a good idea... mine is 37 over like 10K hands, not that that means anything edit: i am playing micro btw, usually .25/.5-1/2, so i'd imagine a "standard" would be slightly lower than higher stakes

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09-20-2008 , 07:03 PM
Stats for 10k hands of 50NL. Looks pretty good to me...what do you guys think?


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09-20-2008 , 07:57 PM
just realized mosaicAce meant minbet, never mind
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09-20-2008 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubs
Stats for 10k hands of 50NL. Looks pretty good to me...what do you guys think?


10k hands really means very little, you need a much higher smaple size
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09-22-2008 , 02:30 AM
Alright so I already posted this in the micro nl forum but found out that was here for feedback. Within the last two months I decided to start getting more serious about poker. Have always done ok playing with friends and at local casinos/games but this summer I really decided to start reading more posts on here and books etc. Even though it has only been 50,000 or so hands I can definitely tell I have improved. I started with $100 on starsin mid July playing NL 10 under rolled but did fine. I had a big break even period which I couldn't figure out why but I decided that I was completing wayyyy too much from the small blind since I felt like players were weak and that I could beat some with post flop play. Once I figured this out (ans I had some money) I started taking shots at NL 25 but didn't have much success. I was playing 8 tables, 6 of NL 10 and 2 of NL 25. While I was beating NL 10 easily, I was running bad at NL 25. Eventually I began to win there and started playing NL 25 exclusively. I then started taking shots at NL 50 when I got to $850 and have been running well, well to the point that I am expecting that I am due for a what goers up must com down session. However, I feel like I am playing really well and that my hands have been holding up and that I am realy only losing buy ins if I get sucked out badly or KK vs AA etc. I am looking for some feedback on my stats and some other things. I want to make sure that I am not experiencing a hot run of cards the last couple weeks. Something that gave me more confidence about my game would be righ, but I also want to hear if there is anything I can improve on. I am a student full time so its hard for me to put in more than 10 hours per week to poker right now but my goal is to play at least that much the rest of the year and try to get Supernova next year. My roll right now it $1550 which I'm pretty pleased with so far. Also as much as I regret it, I am going to have to start taking out about $250 a month for expenses so I am hoping at NL 50 for now I can make at least this and hopefully more each month.

Anyway, here is my money won/ hands graph so far:



Here are my stats up to this point:


and my positional stats:


My last 25000 hands I think really have dictated more about my current play as it has been less NL 10. I have been running well the last couple weeks but I feel as though I am grasping more consistent play at NL 50 after playing alright at Nl 25:

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Appreciate the feedback,

walke353
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09-25-2008 , 03:12 PM
I know its a small sample size but over a large one my stats were similar.

I NEED HELP WITH MY W$WSF

6-Max

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