99: not very sure about the 3b pre. puts you in lots of awkward spots like this one. call is fine as played

TT: readless i think its a fold. if this guy has been spewing double barrels all over the place shove is fine too.

QQ: snap call

H1 call pre.
H2 Depending on the guy, I am willing to ship this in pre. How many times he has 3beted pre?
H3 get it in pre.

Villain is a 52/18 over 29 hands, one tabling.

Standard fold?

yeah fold it his line is very consistent with a fd and you lose to all of them.

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BB: $3.51 - VPIP: 58, PFR: 5, 3B: 5, AF: 1.4, Hands: 59
UTG: $4.00 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 3.0, Hands: 93
Hero (MP): $4.29 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 2.8, Hands: 16981
CO: $4.00 - VPIP: 73, PFR: 32, 3B: 17, AF: 7.0, Hands: 22
BTN: $4.00 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 0.6, Hands: 39
SB: $7.44 - VPIP: 52, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 1.1, Hands: 44

CO posts a big blind ($0.04)

Pre Flop: ($0.10) Hero is MP with A Q
UTG raises to $0.16, Hero calls $0.16, CO calls $0.12, BTN calls $0.16, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.70) 5 6 A (4 players)
UTG bets $0.46, Hero calls $0.46, CO folds, BTN calls $0.46

Turn: ($2.08) 9 (3 players)
UTG bets $1.38, Hero calls $1.38, BTN calls $1.38

River: ($6.22) 2 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.29, BTN calls $2 all in, UTG folds




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CO: $4.40 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 2, AF: 1.3, Hands: 117
BTN: $3.56 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 7, 3B: 6, AF: 2.0, Hands: 76
Hero (SB): $4.08 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 2.8, Hands: 16981
BB: $6.56 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 24, 3B: 10, AF: 4.2, Hands: 432
UTG: $14.06 - VPIP: 42, PFR: 26, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 66
MP: $3.00 - VPIP: 76, PFR: 34, 3B: 11, AF: 1.4, Hands: 50

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is SB with 9 9
UTG raises to $0.08, MP calls $0.08, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.08, Hero calls $0.06, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.36) Q T 6 (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.18, MP folds, BTN folds, Hero folds

Villain is 18/9/0 over 67 hands. AF is 1, but 0.2 / 1.3 / 5 on F/T/R. Is the river shove standard, or should I just call? (If he called me down and back-doored a flush on me, I'm paying him off.)

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CO: $2.63
BTN: $9.82
SB: $10.43
BB: $4.54
UTG: $8.18
Hero (MP): $4.58

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has J J

UTG calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.16, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.12, UTG calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.50, 3 players) 3 K 5
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.33, BB calls $0.33, fold

Turn: ($1.16, 2 players) T
BB checks, Hero bets $0.58, BB calls $0.58

River: ($2.32, 2 players) J
BB bets $1.16, Hero raises to $3.51 and is all-in, BB ...

Hand 1: Looks OK to me. You can make case for 3betting pre, but against a 17/15 TAG opening UTG, flatting is probably the better play. After that, it looks OK. On flop and turn, I don't really like a raise, since you are likely only pushing out worse hands, but I'm not real happy about the pot remaining 3way with TPGK.

On the river, I think you are usually beat by the BTN here (sets and 2-pair hands), but the pot is so big you have to bet after UTG checks - otherwise you are giving the BTN a negative freeroll (i.e., you allow him to check behind with all of his worse aces but probably have to call a shove getting better than 4:1). Moreover, since he's so passive, it's possible that he's been calling down with a worse Ax.

Hand 2: Looks fine. Since UTG's AF is relatively low, I assume he has a low cbet percentage. When he cbets into 3 players with 2 overcards to your nines, I think you are correct to let it go.

cold 4better is nit 14/10 140 hands, do I have to call? lolpotodds?

i3bet to iso fish btw

As Played u obv have to call and you don't even do too badly against a presumably bad shortstacker's range. Imho u chose the wrong hand to iso with as u essentially turn a hand that has a ton of value multiway against bad players willing to stack off postflop into a bluff. Here 97s or equivalent would be a better hand to 3b light. Also, bc u are on the button a smaller size would have the same effect.
1,20 saves you a lot on the long run assuming u fold if one of the first two players shoves?
Call as played.

Cheers.

I understand what your saying about it being a good multi-way hand, but the person I was attempting to iso only had 40 BB's. I'm guessing if the original raiser folded the fish would either fold or shove, and when he did shove we are massively +EV against his range. I would be far more inclined to call if the fish had a 100 BB stack, but playing for a 40 BB effective stack is not +EV imo.

pot turn, shove river?

villain only 15~ hands. but 90vpip/0pfr and minraised every flop so far.

has he been betting turn after minraising? i find those types of fish usually continue, so i'd prob check/raise turn. if he tends to check back then leading is fine. if im gonna lead i would lead a bit bigger, and jamming the river is probably fine.

sample not big enough, everyone has been folding to his minraise so far. like 5 times in a row or so.

be greedier pre, 5x at least. you can probably bet a bit bigger on the flop too since it's multiway. since villain looks straightforward I think the halfpot turn bet is okay so we get equivalent value for your thinned range. I'm fistpump jamming river for value against sets and 2pairs.

Villain is a one tabling fish, but I have no stats or reads.

Is it standard to still jam river?

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Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $11.46
UTG: $10.00
MP: $10.83
CO: $10.17
BTN: $10.15

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 9 T
1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.00) A K T (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.00) 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.90, MP calls $0.90, BTN folds

River: ($2.80) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.40, MP raises to $9.63 all in


MP with 1300 hands plays 30/22/2.1 and WTSD 29, W$SD 58, WWSF 35 and my read on him was that he's pretty much fit or fold type of player.
He's never bluffing in this spot considering my read and I don't think he has flopped a set or a straight since he would have bet the flop 3 way.
BTW his cbet is 51 on flop.
So what's the correct play here ?

He is repping KQ or KJ, maybe J8. Like you said, QJ would have bet the flop 3-way. He's not opening K8s, Q8s, J7s or worse in MP and tbh he might not open J8s.

You have to be good 31% of the time. If your read is correct (rarely bluffing here, plays fit or fold), then I doubt he is shoving a worse flush here. Besides, 87 is probably the only hand you beat that is in his opening range. I doubt he opens 54. So, with the reads you describe, you are probably beat more often than 70% of the time, given that (1) he might not be opening 87 (he probably is), (2) he folds 87 on the turn some of the time, and (3) he probably just calls with 87.

this spot is very nasty but i agree with the above. about 97% of time he has the nuts, the rest if there is any is spew but even then its a pukefold. also, he checked back the flop which very often is a semidecent king that he sees no value in betting, or JJ, QQ, Tx which wont bluff th riv often. and of those kings only those that turn into the nuts on the river will shove unless he is an aggromonkey putting you on foldable holdings

but tbh dont like ur sizing on the turn. you are smibluffing into opposition that has not shown any strength up until this point. why bet so big? its not like you are extracting much value from draws. this way, you can double barrel cheaper too ( and avoid nasty spots like this as it s ur big river bet that allows him to shove)

Well played.

What were buttons stats? If buttons stats were fishy, Villain should be cbetting there with Kx for value. What are villains positional stats more specifically? He might be much nitier from the early positions and much much more aggressive from the co/button/sb, so he might not open suited connectors at all. Would there be a chance that he got set on turn?

BTN is 38/16/4.5 in 71 hands.

Villain in MP has VPIP 32, PFR 31 and he's the loosest in this position as he's not positionally aware at all and in CO PFR is 27, BTN PFR is JUST 19!!
Villain cbets 51 total.

With turned set I believe he definetly raises cuz he's allowing tons of draws to get there if he only calls.


TBH I don't like my betsize on the river, I think I should have made it smaller, just under 2 since not much pays me OTR but OTT I think it's good since my plan was to double barrel no matter if my draw hits, just to make him fold Kxo,Txo QQ,JJ, .90 into 1 is just okay to make him fold sometimes some of those hands. I think a .50-.75 bet OTT is not gonna make him fold since he has many straight draws with QQ,JJ,TJo,TQo, KJo,KQo, don't you agree ?

I am having a slight issue with these scenarios: two fish limp call my raise when I have a PP (say 88 through KK) and one over card hits the flop.

My default line has been to make a delayed continuation bet to widen my opponents calling range. I'm scared that by betting the flop I may sometimes be value owning myself when villains will sometimes have TP.

Is the delayed continuation bet the optimal line in these scenarios?

Note that I am referring only to situations where both villains are fish and there are no regs in the pot.

Depending on the fish, i think you can cbet that flop for value with JJ. they will call with any heart draw, any king, any gutshot type hand QT, JT, any nine. it also depends on the overcard. they will usually have more aces than K,Q,J in their range. limpcalling any ace, and limpcalling any J6+ or something is their range most of the time. but delayed cbet is also okay i think, they won't bet on their own if checked through unless they pick up something.

Well i think in Many Cases when he checks back the flop for pot control with those second pair hands with or without draws he is extremely likely to call any turn bet and fold depending on rivers so I think the smaller bet followed by another (smaller) river barrel will accomplish the same while saving you about 7-9bb when it fails. Also, the smaller line may allow him to spazz out on the river some % of the time when he thinks he has fold equity which is nonexistent when you bomb turn and bomb riv which is exactly why his river raising range now is nuts and nuts only but could possibly be nuts, Kx, Qx, Tx, etc

It depends on the fish. Generally fish have wide ranges, so they won't always have Kx, with JJ here I think you can get away with a cb for value vs the range yay posted below. If the board has an A on it I'd be a bit more wary as fish just looove Ax. If you're not sure what to do when you check & they bet, I think you should prolly just bet for thin value, rather than trying to play a c/c guessing game oop.

Also just keep posting hands like these & you'll get used to doing what's best.

Solid post imo.