Bet more on the turn. Rest is fine.

Two hands where I called a 3bet from the same villan, same position. Villan is reg who 3bets a BTN open 12%. Same for SB open, so hes obviously 3betting wide against steals. Cbets 80% in 3bet pots, and has an aggression factor of over 4.

Have a note which says he 3bet K6o in SB vs BTN open, and checked the flop of T96 rainbow. With all that said, is this the right line to play these two hands? Or do we prefer a 4bet?

If he is 3-betting you wide from the blinds and then almost always firing a cbet on the flop, you can't call and play fit-or-fold after the flop. I would check-raise one of these hands. My preference would be to fold the first hand, and check-raise the second hand, which is less likely to have hit him. You can represent a K and take him off of a weak K (e.g., K6 like in your note), QQ-TT, AQ as well as. If he re-raises you or donks the turn, then you let it go but make a note that you may be able to value check-raise this guy in 3bet pots without scaring him off.

You can't do this all the time, of course, but if you only check raise when you hit, he is going to print money by 3betting a 12% range and getting you to fold with a cbet whenever you miss.

You could check-raise on the first hand because you have a gutshot and back door flush draw and can probably check behind the turn if you wish. However, I'm less inclined because this flop hits his range harder and he is more likely to suspect a semi-bluff on this board. I would pick a better spot to play back at him.

What about the flats PF? Is a 4bet a better option for either spot here? Any check-raise here is a shove, too, as any raise would leave me pot-committed.

I can see benefits for c/r both flops. In the first hand, if my A is live, then I have 8 outs (over, gutter, bd flush), so have a fair amount of equity even if Im called. However, as you said, K rag and Q rag are in his range here.

In the second, I could still possibly have 2 overcards, and a lot more fold equity. That said, would we agree that neither of these hands are a super good spot to play back at him?

Villain is Unknown shortstacker. Given the usual ranges you'd expect here, is this a standard shove?

Thanks

$0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $12.50
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $29.07
BTN: $25.00

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has 7 Q

fold, fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1.25, SB calls $1.00

Flop: ($2.50, 2 players) 9 5 6
SB checks, Hero bets $2.00, SB raises to $5.82, Hero raises to $23.75 and is all-in

Good point about pot commitment. Also, in my post, I said check-raise, when you are of course just raising IP, but the logic is unchanged.

As to 4betting preflop, I prefer the flat preflop since you are in position. A 4bet pre-flop is just as much a shove as a flop raise (you can't 4-bet fold AQs), but you are probably folding out his light 3bets preflop. The raise on the flop allows you to pick up his inevitable cbet.

The other advantage to flatting pre is that you get to see the flop and give up when it hits his range like the first flop and call or raise his inevitable cbet when you either hit your hand (A or Q) or occasionally on on good flop for a bluff.

As for the two flops, I actually think that the K85 rainbow flop is about as good a flop as you can hope for (other than when you hit your hand, of course). He is probably not going to buy your story if you raise a 875 flop after calling the 3bet, since you are probably 4betting your premium pairs. He might call with his A5 hands (as well as his value 3bets that are also beating you). In contrast, on a K85 flop, he is probably going to fold a K6 to a your raise, even though he hit, since you are representing a K with a good kicker. If he calls you with K6 on K85, then reload and take the fit or fold approach, because you are going stack him every time you hit your hand. I suspect that he won't, though - he was smart enough to try not get crazy with his bottom pair when he had K6 on T96 rainbow flop (and presumably he was able to get it to showdown cheaply, since you saw it to take your note.)

Anyway, take my opinions with a grain of salt, of course (I posted the 4NL hand above), but that's my $0.02.

Hi all, I'm new here and would like your advice on my hand. (and how i can get it as easy and nicely as in my poker copilot - like the posters above, when i post my formatted text it just leaves out the format and puts all next to each other )

Villain's profile 17/12/62

PokerStars Game #67584346512: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2011/09/16 13:00:57 CET [2011/09/16 7:00:57 ET]
Table 'Chaka VII' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($5.98 in chips)
Seat 2: crush377 ($0.47 in chips)
Seat 4: lol1623 ($2.38 in chips)
Seat 5: 7alexc7 ($0.79 in chips)
Seat 6: THCFalcon ($3.88 in chips)
dengypoker will be allowed to play after the button
lol1623: posts small blind $0.01
7alexc7: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Q Q]
THCFalcon: raises $0.05 to $0.07
Hero: raises $0.13 to $0.20
crush377: folds
lol1623: folds
7alexc7: folds
THCFalcon: calls $0.13
*** FLOP *** [J 8 2]
THCFalcon: checks
Hero: bets $0.35
THCFalcon: calls $0.35
*** TURN *** [J 8 2] [4]
THCFalcon: bets $0.64
Hero: calls $0.64
*** RIVER *** [J 8 2] [4][3]
THCFalcon: bets $2.69 and is all-in

@<EvE>

I'd call. I think there are many worse hands that opponent has.

As for hand posting, read the stickies to give yourself an idea of this forums capabilities. In short, tracking software can auto format it for you; the "go advanced" reply option has 2+2's own hand formatter in there; other independent online hand formatters are available, e.g. "FlopTurnRiver" comes to mind.

Good luck.

Thank you randomhand, I've done a replay of the hand and saw more spots where i shouldve played differently.

Ok will find that out

Villain is 71/1 and my note on him says: Chases down every draw, but doesn't raise them. This the most obv fold ever?

@ben: you know it


PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $10.76
MP: $10.15
Hero (CO): $15.53
BTN: $10.00
SB: $10.45
BB: $3.60

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has A Q

UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, fold, fold, fold, fold, MP calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.85, 2 players) 9 8 K
MP checks, Hero bets $2.00, MP raises to $5.00, Hero raises to $14.33 and is all-in, MP calls $3.95 and is all-in

Just making sure this is alright, not really any other way to play it is there?

pre and on the flop looks fine to me, maybe even $2.50 OTF but stacking off here is fine for me

Why 3bet pre?

About the AdQd? Why not? It's likely he'll get called by worse most of the time. Looks standard, and best at 10NL IMO.

No.

@ Sean. Call pre, at flop std to get it in.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $5.54
SB: $1.98
BB: $2.87
Hero (UTG): $2.44
CO: $1.88

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to $0.06, fold, fold, SB calls $0.05, fold

Flop: ($0.14, 2 players) 7 J 8
SB bets $0.14, Hero raises to $0.42, SB raises to $1.92 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.50

Hey guys, is this standard play? Villain is an unknown, only had 5 hands on him.

Fold to shove

Would calling be a better option right here? Also, if i'm raising flop, i'm usually trying to get it all in on the flop, right?

Call flop, dont raise.

Why do u think calling is best? If he has us beat its not that we are going to fold to blank turns/rivers. If he has a draw,Jx which he is willing to get it in on the flop why not let him do it?

Why cant you fold? Dont get attached to overpairs in single raised pots, especially on boards like this. Use your position to your advantage. Call flop and see what happens on the turn. If he bombs a whole load of different turn cards, then its a fairly standard fold.

By shoving on the flop, your in bad shape against his range. He either has you crushed already, or even if he does have a draw, he has loads of equity against QQ.

Phew. Well. That clears THAT up then. Everyone, listen up! 3bet AQs...Auts says 'NO!' to Preflop. Now,off to make money...

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10616662

BTN: $3.06 (153 bb)
Hero (SB): $2.02 (101 bb)
BB: $3 (150 bb)
MP: $1.52 (76 bb)
CO: $2.73 (136.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q J
MP folds, CO raises to $0.06, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.05, BB folds

Flop: ($0.14) J Q 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.07, Hero raises to $0.28, CO calls $0.21

Turn: ($0.70) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, CO calls $0.50

River: ($1.70) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.18 and is all-in, CO calls $1.18

No reads on villain as i'm new to table

This is a standard stack off right?

List hands that call your 3bet, folds and raises. What do you think?

Fold preflop. As played, it's good.