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04-22-2013 , 11:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtankz
Need opinion PF & turn.

PartyGaming - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players

Hero (UTG): 120 BB
CO: 116.25 BB (VPIP: 54.84, PFR: 4.07, 3Bet Preflop: 1.75, Hands: 125)
You're also running 55/4.
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04-23-2013 , 04:04 PM
How much should we be betting on the river? I think everything else went fine.
The villain was pretty tight with 14/11 with 650 hands if that matters

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17165941

    CO: $2.26 (45.2 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $8.33 (166.6 bb)
    SB: $2.95 (59 bb)
    BB: $4.81 (96.2 bb)
    MP: $6.54 (130.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
    MP raises to $0.15, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.45, 2 folds, MP calls $0.30

    Flop: ($0.97) 8 6 4 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $0.65, MP calls $0.65

    Turn: ($2.27) 4 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $1.35, MP calls $1.35

    River: ($4.97) Q (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $2.05, MP folds




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    04-23-2013 , 04:53 PM
    I would bet turn much bigger and probably $4.20 or more otr.
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    04-24-2013 , 05:14 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RotInHell
    I would bet turn much bigger and probably $4.20 or more otr.
    But what would be the point in raising bigger on the turn? Wouldnt it just make him fold some pp like 99-JJ from which we can take value from or even if he is calling with something like AK so isnt 2/3 of the pot the right size for a bet? isnt it more likely that he folds some hand like TT to a pot sized bet on on the turn?
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    04-24-2013 , 07:32 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by freshmintt
    But what would be the point in raising bigger on the turn? Wouldnt it just make him fold some pp like 99-JJ from which we can take value from or even if he is calling with something like AK so isnt 2/3 of the pot the right size for a bet? isnt it more likely that he folds some hand like TT to a pot sized bet on on the turn?
    I like bigger sizing OTF and OTT and shove OTR. You are very likely ahead and want a bigger pot. I do not believe that 99-JJ will fold OTF or OTT if you bet 3/4 - 4/5 PSB, not many players fold overpairs easily. Plus there are some high equity share hands (FDs and AK maybe) that you want to charge and don't mind if villain folds.
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    04-24-2013 , 05:04 PM
    Sb is a fish, BU is a weaker reg 26/20, 3% 3b, 0.8 agg factor, called 4 out of 5 cbets so far, raised once. I guess turn is standard? I guess I could go a bit bigger OTF though, OTT he had like 7.60$ left
      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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      BTN: $10.55 (105.5 bb)
      SB: $10 (100 bb)
      Hero (BB): $35.45 (354.5 bb)
      UTG: $16.03 (160.3 bb)
      MP: $10.45 (104.5 bb)
      CO: $14.61 (146.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
      3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN calls $0.90, SB calls $0.90

      Flop: ($3.60) K Q 7 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.72, BTN calls $1.72, SB folds

      Turn: ($7.04) 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $8.60,

      Last edited by XMenCypher; 04-24-2013 at 05:33 PM.
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      04-26-2013 , 04:18 AM
      Would probably go like 2-2.10 OTF here, pf calling range hits this board fairly heavy.

      I'm ok with the turn ship, I guess. But I think your hand looks fairly faceup, and you don't ever get called by anything less than 2p +

      So, I'd probably go smaller OTT.

      Or just check.
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      04-26-2013 , 11:25 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by dunaimbis
      Villain is a straight forward reg at nl5 rush with stats 15/11 2.5 AF 3bet 2.0 and donk bet flop of 21%. Did see him double barrell and then check the river with weak top pairs


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      BB ($2.63)
      UTG ($2.32)
      MP ($4.07)
      Hero (CO) ($18.64)
      Button ($12.35)
      SB ($6.91)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A, Q
      2 folds, Hero bets $0.15, Button calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

      Flop: ($0.60) 4, 6, A (4 players)
      SB bets $0.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.35, Button calls $0.35

      Turn: ($1.65) K (3 players)
      SB bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80, 1 fold

      River: ($3.25) 2 (2 players)
      SB bets $1.50, Hero folds

      Total pot: $3.25
      I call the river for less than 1/2 pot. Doesn't he 3b AK pf? Even with the note about top pair type hands I can't get away for this amount.
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      04-29-2013 , 10:23 AM
        Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17251011

        BB: $12.50 (250 bb)
        UTG: $0.58 (11.6 bb)
        Hero (MP): $5 (100 bb)
        CO: $1.31 (26.2 bb)
        BTN: $5.23 (104.6 bb)
        SB: $12.40 (248 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is MP with 5 4
        UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB folds, BB calls $0.10

        Flop: ($0.62) 3 2 Q (4 players)
        BB checks, Hero bets $0.38, CO raises to $1.16, BTN calls $1.16, BB raises to $5.60, Hero folds, BTN calls $3.92

        Turn: ($12.32) A (3 players)
        River: ($12.32) 7 (3 players)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $12.32 pot ($0.51 rake)
        Final Board: 3 2 Q A 7
        BB showed J T and won $11.81 ($6.58 net)
        Hero mucked 5 4 and lost (-$0.53 net)
        CO showed Q K and lost (-$1.31 net)
        BTN showed 3 3 and lost (-$5.23 net)



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        (ignore the fact that I would have made a straight flush)


        Last edited by birdayy; 04-29-2013 at 10:32 AM.
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        04-29-2013 , 05:52 PM
        im never fodlinmg a flush made on the flop, ever,
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        04-29-2013 , 10:32 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by 00001
        im never fodlinmg a flush made on the flop, ever,
        Ignore this.

        On this flop people's ranges are pretty capped. With 3 people allin and Ah not already on the board this is an easy fold.

        Nice hand. Unlucky about the straight flush hahaha.
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        04-30-2013 , 02:24 AM
        for 100bbs folding a flush on the flop, amd open ended straight flush @ nl5 its preety lol
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        04-30-2013 , 04:31 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by 00001
        for 100bbs folding a flush on the flop, amd open ended straight flush @ nl5 its preety lol
        Why is it pretty lol? You are up against 3 villains, we have an OESD and the likelihood of it most of the time is that our Ah outs are dead. (due to someone else holding it)

        We have the lowest possible flush combo left in the deck.

        How is this pretty lol?

        But sure dude, burn your BI however.
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        04-30-2013 , 06:35 AM
        I agree with the fold. 4 way pot with everyone wanting to gii I don't see how we can be that far ahead, if we're ahead at all.
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        05-01-2013 , 06:32 AM
        Such an awkward hand I played

        btn was 9/6/0 and sb was 28/24/11.1 both over 200 hands. Should I call or fold? I figure if the btn flats the 3b there is huge implied value if i flop a set, and if he reships it's an easy fold.

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          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17279481

          BTN: $5 (100 bb)
          SB: $6.21 (124.2 bb)
          Hero (BB): $11.22 (224.4 bb)
          MP: $0.69 (13.8 bb)
          CO: $6.03 (120.6 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
          2 folds, BTN raises to $0.14, SB raises to $0.47, Hero calls $0.42, BTN raises to $5 and is all-in, 2 folds

          Spoiler:
          Results: $1.41 pot
          BTN mucked and won $1.41 ($0.94 net)



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          05-01-2013 , 01:20 PM
          Imo it is close: both calling and folding are okay.
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          05-01-2013 , 01:25 PM
          Wat? Against a 9/6? It's a snap fold & it's not close.
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          05-01-2013 , 02:26 PM
          Villain is very likely not 9/6 on BTN. SB has a premium hand if realizes that BTN is a rock. You have 15x against SB and got some implied odds (even after deducting small reverse implied odds) from BTN too. But obviously hero will get squeezed sometimes. Imo it is close?
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          05-01-2013 , 02:35 PM
            Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17280611

            SB: $38.61 (154.4 bb)
            Hero (BB): $41.44 (165.8 bb)
            UTG: $33.76 (135 bb)
            MP: $47.70 (190.8 bb)
            CO: $31.35 (125.4 bb)
            BTN: $25 (100 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
            UTG folds, MP raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.80, MP calls $2.05

            Flop: ($5.70) Q 2 A (2 players)
            Hero bets $3.26, MP calls $3.26

            Turn: ($12.22) 3 (2 players)
            Hero bets $7, MP calls $7

            River: ($26.22) 3 (2 players)
            Hero bets $18.78, MP raises to $34.64 and is all-in, Hero calls $9.60 and is all-in




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            Villain is 26/21 after ~50 hands.
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            05-01-2013 , 02:46 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Syfer
            [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

            Villain is 26/21 after ~50 hands.
            I do not mind pre 3b. I think b/b/b here is good but the sizing should get you allin by the river. Easy call imo otr, what is the villain's range? I have hard time to believe that villain has a hand that beats yours. I guess QQ is possible but just one and imo discounted combo. But villain shouldn't bluff many if any hands otr.
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            05-01-2013 , 07:34 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by jamakine
            I do not mind pre 3b. I think b/b/b here is good but the sizing should get you allin by the river. Easy call imo otr, what is the villain's range? I have hard time to believe that villain has a hand that beats yours. I guess QQ is possible but just one and imo discounted combo. But villain shouldn't bluff many if any hands otr.
            It's pretty hard getting 160bb in on the river in a 3bet pot, I went 60%, 60% and then went for 75% on the river since I figured by that point his range was busted draws, sets and big Ax type hands.
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            05-04-2013 , 04:53 PM
            PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
            Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

            BTN: $18.25 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
            Hero (SB): $5.00
            BB: $2.28 (VPIP: 46.15, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 28)
            UTG: $5.39 (VPIP: 24.62, PFR: 24.62, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 66)
            MP: $5.00 (VPIP: 21.19, PFR: 18.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 124)
            CO: $5.50 (VPIP: 8.82, PFR: 8.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)

            Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

            Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J A

            fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BB raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

            Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) 6 2 7
            Hero bets $1.55

            Is this okay or too spewy with so little info on villain?
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            05-04-2013 , 06:11 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by dillchips
            PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
            Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

            BTN: $18.25 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
            Hero (SB): $5.00
            BB: $2.28 (VPIP: 46.15, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 28)
            UTG: $5.39 (VPIP: 24.62, PFR: 24.62, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 66)
            MP: $5.00 (VPIP: 21.19, PFR: 18.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 124)
            CO: $5.50 (VPIP: 8.82, PFR: 8.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)

            Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

            Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J A

            fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BB raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

            Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) 6 2 7
            Hero bets $1.55

            Is this okay or too spewy with so little info on villain?
            Your svenska power comes out!
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            05-04-2013 , 06:45 PM
            Any reason for potting it? I don't see why you couldn't just bet 60-70% of pot and see if you improve ott or otr. Since villain is so loose I wouldn't be surprised if he hits a part of that board either. Also if you're ahead you would want to entice him to continue, no?

            Unless you're just trying to make him fold worse...

            edit: seems he's pretty passive, what if he calls and you don't improve on the turn? do you plan to x it down? x/c?
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            05-04-2013 , 06:50 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by dillchips
            PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
            Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

            BTN: $18.25 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
            Hero (SB): $5.00
            BB: $2.28 (VPIP: 46.15, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 28)
            UTG: $5.39 (VPIP: 24.62, PFR: 24.62, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 66)
            MP: $5.00 (VPIP: 21.19, PFR: 18.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 124)
            CO: $5.50 (VPIP: 8.82, PFR: 8.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)

            Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

            Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J A

            fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BB raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

            Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) 6 2 7
            Hero bets $1.55

            Is this okay or too spewy with so little info on villain?
            Why do you 4bet pre? Are you going to call if he shoves over your 4bet? I don't really love getting it in with 45 bb. Although shortstackers at microstakes are terrible, I don't know of you can call a 5bet all in with AJs. My own SS stack off range vs shortstacks (30 - 50 bbs) is JJ+ and AQ, and I even find the bottom of this range to be pretty close.

            Because villain is unknown (we can say that he probably is a fish given stack size) I don't like the cbet. Personally, I would give up on the hand and check flop because I think that villain will continue with almost every pocket pair in his range and because we're OOP. If we were IP and villain checked (same stacksizes), then I would consider jamming.

            It's indeed a bit spewy imo to play the hand like this because we're readless.

            EDIT: I guess villain could have a couple of Kx and Qx hands and worse Ax hands as well here, which all wil fold. Meh, kinda close. Would still prefer to give up on the end because of the lack of information we have on villain
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