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01-18-2022 , 09:15 AM
Sorry if this was meant for beginners section, i was not sure. So I'm playing microstake zoom 6max and my question is - If i'm playing with no limps except BTNvUTG/HJ and some SB v utg/mp, should I have some limps in sb if there is no action before? GTOwizard suggests to raise 3bb 37.5% hands but there are a lot of frequencies too mixed with limp, should i just open pure raises and fold mixed ones? I don't like to limp because i'm still trying to get hang of ranges and especially in my stakes(5-10z rn) and having advantage with tighter range comes handy.
And the other question would be, how solver( or people) make their squeezing ranges and are they even needed in micro/low stakes? Ex - utg opens, btn or sb 3b, ure in bb with ATs wdyd? Especially with lower end of pocket pairs 99-TT it seems juicy to cold call or 4b but is it even +ev if they 3b AQs+? sry for rant , looking for some help, luv ya
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01-18-2022 , 03:15 PM
Hi, sattitg!

Usually, The strategy with SB open limps is not used at micro and low stakes due to the high rake.
The rake is not paid if the action ended preflop (so-called "no flop - no drop"). But some rooms collect rake preflop.

Therefore, "the SB Open Raise only" strategy is considered standard and more profitable.

Also, at micro-low stakes, players don't protect their BB well, and we can make a profit already preflop.
We can open the same range as with BU (42-45%).
And expand it to 70-80% if the opponent in the BB has an exploitable:
  • 3Bet BBvsSB <10%
  • fold to steal BBvsSB >63% vs 3bb open
  • fold to steal BBvsSB >57% vs 2.5bb open.
The open limp can be used at these stakes too.
Not from a GTO point of view, but as exploitation of passive players.
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01-19-2022 , 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by slyless
Hi, sattitg!

Usually, The strategy with SB open limps is not used at micro and low stakes due to the high rake.
The rake is not paid if the action ended preflop (so-called "no flop - no drop"). But some rooms collect rake preflop.

Therefore, "the SB Open Raise only" strategy is considered standard and more profitable.

Also, at micro-low stakes, players don't protect their BB well, and we can make a profit already preflop.
We can open the same range as with BU (42-45%).
And expand it to 70-80% if the opponent in the BB has an exploitable:
  • 3Bet BBvsSB <10%
  • fold to steal BBvsSB >63% vs 3bb open
  • fold to steal BBvsSB >57% vs 2.5bb open.
The open limp can be used at these stakes too.
Not from a GTO point of view, but as exploitation of passive players.
Thank you, that seems logical, if I may ask, how do one construct squeezing range? My understanding why squeezing is needed is that you can freely "steal dead money in pot" with hand who perhaps blocks opponents calling range or not as strong to continue 3handed, also mixed with value squeezes is that correct way of thinking?
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01-19-2022 , 05:18 AM
Guerrilla Poker did a nice breakdown recently on the logic behind squeezing ranges here

You can explore decent squeezing (and general) ranges for free from GTO wizard or Snowie (app) if you didn't know
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01-19-2022 , 05:30 AM
Yes, It's correct.

Basically, you can take a 3bet range and edit it a bit.
Or take the ranges of the same GTO Wizard as a basis and simplify them for practical use.
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01-19-2022 , 05:52 AM
Thank you both!
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