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07-05-2022 , 04:15 PM
GG Poker - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 112.5 BB
SB: 266.5 BB
BB: 115.5 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 90 BB
CO: 57 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

Hero raises to 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB, fold, SB calls 1.5 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (10 BB, 5 players) K 4 T
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 5 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 5 BB, fold

Turn: (20 BB, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero bets 15 BB, SB raises to 204 BB, hero...


On the one hand I feel like V will always have QJ here.
We have top two.... but we can also have AA, KK TT, and QJ ourselves to call with.

What would you do?
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07-05-2022 , 05:55 PM
2BB open size seems suboptimal, at least @ NL2. I think some players use such a size at higher stakes, but if you play the "normal" TAG style which should be standard at microstakes I imagine using 2.5BB or even 3BB is better : you want make them pay to see the flop with their inferior holdings. Look at the action there, you got a 5-way flop with AK!, which is not the result you wanted.

I think it's a fold, because you showed strength throughout the hand on a very good board for your range and SB does not seem to care. Sometimes you fold the best hand when he just went crazy with AT, but I expect to see QJ, 44 or maybe even TT very often. I would call with 44.
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07-05-2022 , 07:00 PM
We should certainly be opening bigger pre.

This is a really annoying spot, would be better if we didn't have the Kh to block all his potential combo draws. Don't think we can fold though. I'm assuming villain is a bad player when he takes this line so he can show up with all sorts of nonsense here.
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07-05-2022 , 07:25 PM
Most of the GTOWizard ranges open 2bb utg in 6 max, so that should be fine.

Postflop, go with any reads here. I think its nutted often, but def can be fish punting.
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07-05-2022 , 08:20 PM
I'm just folding with no reads, particularly in a micro zoom pool. Even some fish nut peddle, and players will just so rarely turn QT or JT into a bluff. So you're looking at AT and QJ alone a significant majority of the time imo, and both you and the board heavily block AT combos, while QJ will basically be all 16 combos. There's definitely some % chance that villain is just a whale who's punting, but even in good (fishy) pools there's only a handful of punty whales to go with all of the average fish and regs. And the regs at this level are like 80% bad nits that only go all-in with the nuts

I would also be checking this combo behind some % of the time OTT

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Originally Posted by Purple Hat
I'm assuming villain is a bad player when he takes this line so he can show up with all sorts of nonsense here.
Villain is almost without question a bad player, but a bad player can also have only the nuts with this line
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07-05-2022 , 08:34 PM
readless i think it's a fold

I think the bottom of his range AQ/AJ/AT and the rest is QJ played weirdly or a set worried you have Qx/Jx and don't want you getting a cheap straight

don't see any pure bluffs here ever but he's going have Qxhh or Jxhh a bunch here
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