Against 20/14/3.7 over 100 hands

Whats my line and wtf is he repping?

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NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($19.39)
BB ($17.73)
UTG ($5.25)
Hero ($14.43)
CO ($8.50)
BTN ($22.62)

Dealt to Hero K A

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, SB calls $0.65, fold

FLOP ($1.75) 8 Q 3

SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls $1

TURN ($3.75) 8 Q 3 7

SB bets $2, Hero?

hearts/draws, sets, weak tp, weak draws

usually weighted towards something that doesn't want a raise and wants to set their own price to see the river (from my experience)

how are you reacting to that? raise or cawl?

^^^ agreed with range. but with that stack sizes i don't like raising it.

Call and bink.

you're a bit deep for a shove, not getting such a bad price, I say call.

they are both actually short stacks, this is 25nl

I don't always cbet there, I think taking a free turn is good here, alot of people will disagree though.

As played I would call the turn and hope to hit, can never find a fold there.

@Deppir .stack / pot ratio deep, hero has ~10$ left, pot is 5.75$. Only viable raise is a shove.

call and hope to hit on river. You have very little fold equity after he donks and you are usually behind.

Call and see that river club. Easy game.

Shove

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+1 for shoving here.

reasons to shove ?

kidacao theorem says "dont shove turn without a made hand on uNL, they call any pear or draw hoping to bink rivers" :P

depends on how much fold equity you think you've got. If high shove, if low call.

well isnt that obvious :P

exactly...+1 for having a sweet avatar as well

I was +1 for calling. However, after thinking about it, I don't think a shove is a bad play. I agree with the above poster who said that his turn lead looks like a weak holding that doesn't want to get raised and wants to dictate the price to see a river card.

+1 for shoving.

I will shove for several reasons here

1) Makes your hand much easier to play

2) You DO have FE, but regardless, you dont need that much given how much pot equity you have vs his calling range (around 30%, maybe a lil less i dont have pokerstove for blackberry), plus the times he calls with a draw which you are favorite against (lets say T9hh, or T9cc or similar. )

3) You avoid making bigger mistakes on the river (calling with a worse hand, folding the best hand aka getting bluffed). Say you miss the river and he bets 1/2 pot, 1/3 pot or shoves with a missed combodraw something like that. Shoving the turn can never be a big mistake

4) Its good to take the pot down with A high here, whatever hand he has, has equity vs our hand.

5) makes your red line looks really cool

6) we will shove all our valuehands here (big Qx or beter)

7) why not?

Hope its enough

I agree with the shove, but I think I just prefer to raise to like $6 here.

Although any raise we do is committing, I feel this garners a lot more fold equity.

Why do we raise? Because we have a decent amount of fold equity, nice equity in the hand, and we want to stay aggressive - especially vs his mediocre range here.

ill take the cool red line :P

i got tilted because i swear fish can see my holecards.

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NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($19.39)
BB ($17.73)
UTG ($5.25)
Hero ($14.43)
CO ($8.50)
BTN ($22.62)

Dealt to Hero K A

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, SB calls $0.65, fold

FLOP ($1.75) 8 Q 3

SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls $1

TURN ($3.75) 8 Q 3 7

SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

RIVER ($7.75) 8 Q 3 7 5

SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB folds

Hero shows K A

Hero wins $7.38


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so i tried to do the same on this other spot. im explaining my line on the spoiler ,prolly tldr




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NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($15.06)
BB ($11.09)
Hero ($22.53)
UTG+1 ($8.90)
CO ($7.50)
BTN ($12.06)

Dealt to Hero 5 5

Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.65, fold

FLOP ($1.75) 4 Q K

SB bets $1, Hero calls $1

TURN ($3.75) 4 Q K 9

SB bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25

RIVER ($6.25) 4 Q K 9 4

SB bets $1.25, Hero raises to $7, SB calls $5.75

Hero shows 5 5
(Pre 54%, Flop 8.0%, Turn 4.5%)

SB shows A K
(Pre 46%, Flop 92.0%, Turn 95.5%)

SB wins $19.26



its annoying and my handreading skills sucks as well.

i probably just flat here tbh
most people dont take weird c/c donk lines
makes me suspciious
u got a good draw to flush and a few overcard outs
but a shove is probably not too awful either

if your read is that he was drawing on the flop/turn, he got there on the turn/river