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04-27-2018 , 09:44 AM
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04-27-2018 , 09:48 AM
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Ignore top i messed it up . Think this is a spew . Line check please



    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37933726

    Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)
    SB: $21.88 (218.8 bb)
    BB: $10.37 (103.7 bb)
    UTG: $16.91 (169.1 bb)
    MP: $10.10 (101 bb)
    CO: $10.56 (105.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 5
    3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB folds

    Flop: ($0.70) T J 2 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.34, SB calls $0.34

    Turn: ($1.38) 8 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, SB calls $0.70

    River: ($2.78) 5 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1.10




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    04-27-2018 , 10:36 AM
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    You can just check back and win against Ak/AQ/KQ/A9/9x bdfd which means you have a bunch of sdv which means you need a really good reason to bluff. Without sdv this is still bad, you need 29% folds to break even which is not going to happen on this runout. Flop/turn are fine.
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    04-27-2018 , 11:23 AM
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    ^as pokerforumposter said, the hands that are mostly folding are ones we have beat anyways.

    The runout isn't really scary and we don't block his best calldown hands so I give up on the river.
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    04-27-2018 , 11:26 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pokerforumposer
    You can just check back and win against Ak/AQ/KQ/A9/9x bdfd which means you have a bunch of sdv
    AK/AQ 3-bet pre.
    KQ usually 3-bets.
    A9 doesn't always call flop.
    how does 9x not have a pair with it unless it's A9?
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    04-27-2018 , 11:34 AM
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    Do we think villian calls down 3 streets with Tx? I think he does given my river sizing so i think i either need to give up or bet bigger on river.
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    04-27-2018 , 11:34 AM
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    Do you have some info to the villain?
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    04-27-2018 , 11:46 AM
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    no stats on villian
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    04-27-2018 , 11:56 AM
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    Do we think villian calls down 3 streets with Tx? I think he does given my river sizing so i think i either need to give up or bet bigger on river.
    He should be calling some Tx based on the sizings you used
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    04-27-2018 , 11:56 AM
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    AK/AQ 3-bet pre.
    KQ usually 3-bets.
    A9 doesn't always call flop.
    how does 9x not have a pair with it unless it's A9?
    A9 without bdfd i guess is very rare but rest is possible, i am assuming v is often a fish, 69s bdfd for example is a hand fish will show up frequently here. Really dont need too many hands to beat at showdown to make betting unprofitable
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    04-27-2018 , 12:05 PM
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    A9 without bdfd i guess is very rare but rest is possible, i am assuming v is often a fish, 69s bdfd for example is a hand fish will show up frequently here. Really dont need too many hands to beat at showdown to make betting unprofitable
    I wasn't trying to make a case for bluffing because it seems really bad on this board and especially for the sizing. I was just pointing out that your reasoning is bad.
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    04-27-2018 , 12:07 PM
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    A9 without bdfd i guess is very rare but rest is possible, i am assuming v is often a fish, 69s bdfd for example is a hand fish will show up frequently here. Really dont need too many hands to beat at showdown to make betting unprofitable
    Could you just explain the last sentence to me mate . I don't think I understand the theory behind it
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    04-27-2018 , 12:18 PM
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    Could you just explain the last sentence to me mate . I don't think I understand the theory behind it
    If you sometimes win without betting, then checking has "positive" ev, so to bluff you need to make them fold not just enough to break even, but to make more money than checking
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