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01-11-2023 , 06:57 PM
In hindsight, I should have bet small on the turn, but I didn't and so here we are....





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NL Holdem 0.10(BB)
HERO (247.3BBs) [VPIP: 26.2% | PFR: 20.2% | AGG: 34.4% | Flop Agg: 36.8% | Turn Agg: 37.4% | River Agg: 39.7% | 3-Bet: 9.7% | 4-Bet: 17.9% | Hands: 40851]
HJ (99.9BBs) [VPIP: 44.4% | PFR: 22.2% | AGG: 57.1% | Hands: 9]
CO (30BBs) [VPIP: 45.9% | PFR: 2.7% | AGG: 27.3% | Hands: 37]
BTN (101BBs) [VPIP: 14.3% | PFR: 11.4% | AGG: 25% | Hands: 35]
SB (106.9BBs) [VPIP: 5.9% | PFR: 5.9% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 17]
BB (100.2BBs) [VPIP: 54.5% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 25% | Flop Agg: 16.7% | Turn Agg: 25% | River Agg: 60% | 3-Bet: 20% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 30% | Hands: 33]

Dealt to Hero: K K

HERO Raises To 3BBs, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls 2BBs

Hero SPR on Flop: [14.95 effective]
Flop (6.5BBs): 5 J 8
BB Checks, HERO Bets 3.2BBs (Rem. Stack: 241.1BBs), BB Calls 3.2BBs (Rem. Stack: 94BBs)

Turn (12.9BBs): 5 J 8 K
BB Checks, HERO Checks

River (12.9BBs): 5 J 8 K T
BB Bets 20.3BBs (Rem. Stack: 73.7BBs), Hero?
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01-11-2023 , 08:28 PM
idk id call. i get you have bluff catcher and scary sizing but some sds missed, some pairs he can turn into bluff, looks reasonably aggro from stats. yeah u can argue Kx with a club is a better bluff catcher here but its not clear fish are great at polarizing and if you fold this you are likely folding everything in practice
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01-12-2023 , 08:01 AM
What about calling only straights?

I don't know if it makes a difference since both straights and sets are losing to the main value hands he's doing this with.
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01-12-2023 , 10:45 AM
Probably call because top set

And lose because people very rarely bluff

It's probably a fold, thinking about it I can think of very few bluffs, and they never have a set
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01-12-2023 , 01:40 PM
I would definitely bet the turn - as played very easy call
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01-12-2023 , 03:38 PM
very tough spot, against this size id probably just fold, he is mostly repping the flush, if he bets 125% OTR its an easy call, since we beat some of his value bets; 2pairs and trips. also we dont have good blockers, i think calling with AxTc is better than calling with KK.
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01-12-2023 , 07:41 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone.

I did end up folding.

Should have results shortly.
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01-12-2023 , 07:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerfan655
I would definitely bet the turn - as played very easy call
They need to bluff ~ 61% of time, I don't find it that easy.
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01-12-2023 , 09:14 PM
Spoiler:
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01-12-2023 , 09:24 PM
i still think you should call
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01-13-2023 , 07:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by newguyhere
Spoiler:
I'm slowly learning we should just be folding pretty much everything to this type of aggression apart from nutted hands/hands with good blockers

Difficulty is in finding the discipline to do it though.

Nice fold.
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01-13-2023 , 10:19 AM
Weird he goes for overbet w the flush possible and the bottom straight. I guess he just thinks we never check back a flush.
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