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09-03-2007 , 06:54 AM
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $62.25
BB: $25.25
UTG: $33.25
MP: $73.85
hero (CO): $124.10
BTN: $50.00

Reads: Villain is 62/21/95 and seems like calling station although he can and is aggressive pf
I am 19/15/7 with 33% steal percentage, not 3 bet him as I can see his calling range been really wide but I have yet to see proof of that


Preflop: hero is dealt A A (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP raises to $2.00, hero raises to $8.00, 3 folds, MP calls $6.00

Flop: ($16.75) 2 8 9 (2 Players)
MP checks, hero bets $15.00, MP calls $15.00

Turn: ($46.75) 2 8 9 7 (2 Players)
MP bets all-in for $50.85

Pot Size: $97.60

Ugh, such a horrible card. I bet big pf and on flop because he can call a lot. Is the re draw to nut flush draw enough to call? Would he ever be betting the ultimate scare card as a bluff?
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09-03-2007 , 07:34 AM
Call. You'r never drawing dead. I think you will see TT and JJ and maybe QQ with hearts alot.

Plus he can be bluffing.

A baby!
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09-03-2007 , 07:35 AM
You're ahead often enough that I think a call is good here.
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09-03-2007 , 08:39 AM
Call here, you got a good redraw. He might got a straight now, but then you still got 9 outs.
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09-03-2007 , 08:54 AM
call is good.
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09-03-2007 , 09:16 AM
The fact that you have the Ah is important, not only because of your flush draw but also because it means he didnt have the nut flush draw on the flop. You say he's a calling station, does that mean he'd call such a big pre-flop re-raise with KQs?

Im pretty sure he doesnt have a set. If he check-called the flop with a set he wouldnt just push the turn like that.

If he has 1010 or JJ with a heart it means that he has an overpair as well as a straight and a flush draw. He might make this move with that hand. He could also have QQ w a heart as well as a made flush if you think he'll call PF re-raises with K high hands.

You can beat several hands in his range and you got outs regardless of what he has. I'd call in your spot for sure.
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09-03-2007 , 09:26 AM
Quote:
The fact that you have the Ah is important, not only because of your flush draw but also because it means he didnt have the nut flush draw on the flop. You say he's a calling station, does that mean he'd call such a big pre-flop re-raise with KQs?

Yeah I definately think he could call with KQs, as I said in OP I have not seen him turn over anything in relation to calling 3 bets, it's just my general feel of him from watching him, I think JTs may not even be too far a stretch for a calling range
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09-03-2007 , 09:42 AM
If J10s is in his range, then so is KJh and QJh.

Could somebody run a simulation with this range? I dont have the tools..
10x10h,JxJh,QxQh,J10s,QJh,KQh
(I dont have KK or a set in his range because of his line so far).

I think you still have the equity to call against this range, but Im not sure.
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09-03-2007 , 10:00 AM
Easy call.
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09-03-2007 , 11:28 AM
I did the simulation for the range I posted above.
You got 57,5 % equity against that range so its an extremly clear call.

Even if you add 22,88,99 to his range you still got 45% equity, so there's no doubt folding is a big mistake.
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09-03-2007 , 12:51 PM
I scratch my balls first then call.
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09-03-2007 , 12:57 PM
Without Ah fold, but since you have it shiip
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09-03-2007 , 09:21 PM
Well I am really uncertain whether he pushes if he has TT or JJ with 1 heart in this manner.
Example of hand played earlier which while different is example of his passiveness

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $47.50
BB: $86.10
UTG: $47.35
hero (BTN): $49.75

Preflop: hero is dealt 8 8 (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.00

Flop: ($5.75) 4 Q 4 (2 Players)
UTG checks, hero bets $4.20, UTG calls $4.20

Turn: ($14.15) 4 Q 4 6 (2 Players)
UTG checks, hero checks

River: ($14.15) 4 Q 4 6 9 (2 Players)
UTG bets $6.00, hero calls $6.00

Pot Size: $26.15 ($1.25 Rake)

UTG had Q 6 (two pair, Queens and Sixes) and WON (+$12.20)
hero had 8 8 and LOST (-$12.70)

So have my doubts of whether he pushes them although I could be (and may have turned out to be) wrong
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