So I started doing some analysis on medium sized pots which is:

Any pot where I saw a flop/put some money in the pot (vpip=true)
and won or lost between 10 to 20 bb (player won or lost BBs>9 and player won or lost BBs<21)

and I think I have a proper leak going on there...

On about 73k hands of 50NL and over about 1560 hands (matching the criteria) I'm loosing about 55bb/100 (ev is 31bb/100 but still). As the pfr in those pots I lose more then as a caller (prolly some missed cbets and stuff).

Also pots of less then 10bb with vpip=true and pfr=false I'm loosing, -90bb/100 over 3.9k hands.

Wondering how others are doing in this area? Gonna do some more analysis later on (what in 3bet pots, different kind of hands, etc)

^^^ i m assuming this happens to any TAG player, since theyre always c-betting once and giving up, and giving up on flops where they miss. they make it all back tho wen they stack a donk, which wud be more than 20BBs

Hey, I sometimes double barrel

But yeah, I try to take back a bit of the cbetting (or pick my spots better) but dunno... Pots below 10bb and above 20bb are ok it seems overall although I have to finetune some more for being pfr or not being pfr, but especially when you don't hit much in the other hands (or they crack your aces and sets) the medium pots tend to hurt quite a bit....

You told me to come back when I would have played more hands. Here I am, still losing

It's hard to tell a lot from stats, but there are a few glaring things.

You're c-betting the flop too much, imo. I would bet that your turn c-bet is something like 20% which is just way too low. To me, your positional stats for this would be much more helpful.

It's still a really small sample. I've broke even over samples like this before.

My turn CB is 47% (it's written in the bottom right of the yellow thing)


Here is my positional stats :




I know that 50k hands isn't a huge sample and that I obviously run bad (KK vs AA / Set vs higher set / Flush vs higher flush certainly more that what it should be) but I must have some kind of leaks that turn me into a nearly break even player.

I definatly think your main problem is your are probably getting floated a lot by the decent players and then when you check they are betting and taking down pots. Cbet less and watch out for people floating you more than normal. Stats look pretty decent all around. I would say you are probably to aggressive which is giving you some trouble and probably getting stacks in to light. Read up on pot control and this might help a bit. Could easily be just a bad run but you are on the right track.

I've seen many posts about the red line graph (non showdown winnings) but all the answers seem to be vague. I'd love to see OP comment on this. My own take on this is that it includes all the money lost in the blinds, all the money lost with low pairs when you miss the flop and the money lost with a c bet (with air) and you get reaised and fold.

Under these circumstances is it actually possible to have a positive red line. Does anybody here have red line showing a profit?

How do people have decreasing redlines!? Mine is so high I don't know how to topple it lol! And I play 10NL. Red line makes up the bulk of my profits:



Just moved up, so big spike at the end of ma garf. Had some really bad spew in the breakeven stretch of the garf, too.

Hey guys, I'm having a hard time lately at NL25. Any suggestions?

Looks like you may be completing and calling too much from the blinds. Look to 3 bet more or fold more. Also you may not be doubling enough or value betting enough (may be just style tho).

Here is a quick question for stats guys... Whats a good no. of samples before you want to take a stat at its face value? suppose lets say villian has this habit of 3-betting light on the button, and HEM says 3-bet from BT, 20% (x samples), what would x be for you to 4 bet say, QQs?

Standard deviation of your measurement is SD = 1/2 * sqrt (1/N).

So if you have 10 hands where your villains 3bets from the BTN, your measurement (3bet% from BTN) is accurate +/- 16%. Since most 3bet% are below 10%, an standard deviation of +/- 16% makes your measurement uncertain.

For SD = 0.1%, you need 250'000 hands where Villain 3bets from BTN.

(I think)

ok, for QQs, i wud need x to be equal to ro greater than 5. yes u heard that rite. For me to 4bet ATC, i wud need a sample of about 50+. What ur not understanding is a 3bet of 20% is disgustingtly high. Even if viallin had a 3bet of 5%, i wud still be offended, and have to challenge him or trap him obv.

Any analysis welcome

Everything looks pretty standard and good. As stated above you need to look for more spots to 3bet or raise from the blinds. If you see a late position limper then raise him to 5x pretty wide and you will take it down a good amount of the time. If the btn or CO raises and has a higher ATS% then 3 bet him pretty wide. These will help your blind play.

I would guess it's that you are c-betting the flop entirely too much. You might be auto c-betting and barreling some hands that belong in your checking range and maybe you are barreling in some bad spots... giving up on third barrels too often... I don't know.

I c-bet the the turn more than you, but I c-bet the flop less so this makes sense for my strategy. However, your c-bet flop/c-bet turn relationship looks more to me like someone who plays like a rock. I might just be misjudging though because the others stats that strike me is how low our CO/BTN VPIP/PFR stats are relative to your steal percentage. So maybe when you actually see flops you have stronger hands? I'm uncomfortable with making any definite declarations without seeing you play.

Thanks a lot for helping me threads13.

If by rock you mean a very tight player, I don't think that I'm really that tight.

I raise any pairs from any positions , AQ+ in EP and I try to be as loose as possible in LP. (I've been being looser since the beginning of this month as you can see in the stats I posted previously)

About my CB frequencies, you're right when you say that I'm doing it too much on the flop. (81% and works 51% of the time). I know it but always think that if I don't CB, vilain is going to raise and I'll have to fold because I have nothing, don't have the position..

Would you CB here ? (I know that vilain is a tight player that know what he's doing)

CO: $25.00
Hero (MP): $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with A K
Hero raises to $1, BB calls $1, SB folds, BB foldds.

Flop: ($2.40) 9 2 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $2


What's more, the position where my CB works the worst is SB (wish is normal, right ?)

Would you have CB flop/turn ? (As below, he's tight and know what he is doing)

BB: $25.00
Hero (SB): $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q K
7 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, BB calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.40) 9 A 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1, BB calls 1$

Turn: ($3.40) : 9 A 7 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.8,


My high CB flop % certainly makes me loose money against the regs that are certainly floating me. That's why I try to barrel the turn if a good card comes. (my Turn CB is 47.8 and my success 40.8%)

My WTSD% is only 19.9. That must mean that I'm too weak. This must clearly be a consequence of my high CB%. Vilain see that I CB no matter what and decide to raise me which makes me fold.

I hope that it's understandable. Thanks a lot for the time you spend reviewing my stats. This is very appreciated

My first "recorded" 10,000 hands at nl5 fullring. I've played a bit before, maybe 15K hands, but that was on my other computer when I did not have poker tracker. I usually play 6 max, and after breaking even for 12K hands there I thought Id give fullring a go. This is all 12 tabling.

Stats.



Position stats.



And graph with showdown and no-showdown winnings.




Im probably running a little good here. As you can see, no significant downswing's or break even stretches. But the results are not important to me, I just want to know how well Im playing. This is only 4 days of play, but it's still 10,000 hands. I would just like to know early on if there is anyway I can improve.

Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Any obvious leaks?

I'm not an expert but I can say that the gap between your vpip and PFR is way to high. You should stop limping and start raising.

throw in a check raise vs regs every now and again

I you ever decide to move up stakes your gonna have to make some changes to your game If you are happy with playing at the stakes you are at looks very good, wp. When you move up you can't go set mining all the time and passively playing your pp's. There will be regs there who exploit that. at 25nl a breakeven red line s optimal, which isn't all that difficult it just means being a little more aggro. The thing is you can't really practise improving on your red line untill you move up, because the donks at 5nl won't let you win any pots before showdown they will call call call and it'll go to showdown, or they'll bluff when they shouldn't, which is very good for the blue line, - not so good for red. If you move up you may have to play a few more hands too.

GL, -congrats on pretty graph

duely noted. Ill let you know how it goes

Ghaaaaa, what's happening to me!? Since the begining of May I haven't been able to win! And i'm losing money from the BTN. WTF!????? I need some serious help here!

General stats:



Positional stats:



The obligatory graph:



Help!!!!