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04-14-2009 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by LuckyStraights
Rather then treat your aggression as something that is either up or down, think of it has something that is more situational. If you feel you can pick up this pot with some aggression do so, if your up against a calling station don't double barrel etc.

Keep up your blind stealing and make sure you have not reduced yourself to c-betting on the boards you it, remember villains miss boards too recognize this and bet when you think they have missed.
Thanks for the reply lucky. I didn't mean I'd stopped playing aggressivingly (AF ~4.5), I just ment I was playing the player more, I'm still a very aggressive player, my cbet is still greater than 90% and I'd steal my gran if someone posted her as BB .

It seemed that I was spewing some so I worked on cutting spew, since then my red line has started declining and my blue line has carried on at the same rate and therefore my profit has leveled out/declined and I was wondering if maybe I should start working on getting my red line back up. If so any ideas how? What should ur red/blue line ratio be like?
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04-14-2009 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BigLawMonies
You double barrel quite often. Maybe slow down a bit on turn cbets with air. That could be causing your swongs. Also complete from the SB a bit less?
I mostley call i SB when there has been some limpers, although this might be a leak, haven't thought of that before. I guess I play my medium hands to much from SB, I'll stop doing that from now on!


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Originally Posted by LuckyStraights
Your stats look reasonable to me, though I am v.new to stats analysis still. The only thing that stands out really is that you are rather passive in LP, as you said you like to call with some implied odds hands, which isn't terrible but I would look for spots to isolate frequent limpers, especially on the BUT, that may help.

EDIT: Your graph is loving the swings, any ideas why your so swingy?
I've noticed that I limp quite often in LP, gonna search for some isolation posts and use it more often. I don't really know about the swings, might be because i seldom play smal pots, I quit often get it all-in when I believe I'm a favorite or make a big bluff when I think I've found a spot. One reason might be as BigLawMonies said, I c-bet on the turn to fake a good hand to often.

Any more thoughts about my stats?
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04-14-2009 , 09:24 AM
your stats say you cbet about 63% of the time on the flop which isnt bad. You said before you cbet 90% of the time which I am guessing you are over exagerating but that would be way to high. You may be defending from the blinds but it doesnt appear bad so you probably are ok for awhile there. Stop CBeting the turn so much which will help a lot i believe. You should also consider toning down your ATS%. Although not terible it is on the high side of what you probably wanna see.
Now from what you have said you get it all in a lot if you think you are ahead. This is primarily what is causing your swings. If you dont mind the swings then go back and analyze your all in hands and make sure your reads are on. I would suggest toning it down a bit and trying to keep your small hands for small pots and big hands for big pots. This looks like it would be expoloited but at the $4nl level they will not know the diffrence.
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04-14-2009 , 05:15 PM
^^I think you got my stats mixed up with olimans post. I've noticed that my stealing % is a bit high, I'll try to get it around 40%. About the turn c-betting I can only agree with you guys, I have to learn that if the villian calls, he got something he likes.

Didn't find any way to get thoose fancy "money won $ with showdown" and "money won $ without showdown" included in my graph, how can I get them?
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04-14-2009 , 05:39 PM
I am unsure. I use HEM so I am unsure. I looked at the PT3 site but could not find instructions when I breifly looked throught the forum and Faq's and how to's.
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04-14-2009 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gomery

Didn't find any way to get thoose fancy "money won $ with showdown" and "money won $ without showdown" included in my graph, how can I get them?
In PT3, at the top of the graph page there is a drop down box where you can select it has an option.

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04-15-2009 , 10:55 AM
Wihu! Ty guys, here we go:



Can you make something out of that? Any more ideas about the swongs?
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04-15-2009 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Gomery

Can you make something out of that? Any more ideas about the swongs?
What are you standard lines? You may be bet/bet/shoving into the wrong villains.

Do you suffer with tilt, it looks like you've had several 3BI swings over a few hundred hands, that can easily be just variance, but it could also be stacking off too light say after a fish sucks out on you for a full stack.
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04-15-2009 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckyStraights
What are you standard lines? You may be bet/bet/shoving into the wrong villains.

Do you suffer with tilt, it looks like you've had several 3BI swings over a few hundred hands, that can easily be just variance, but it could also be stacking off too light say after a fish sucks out on you for a full stack.
Don't know what you mean by "standard lines"... Tried to google it but couldn't find anything useful.

I can assure you that it's not from tilting, at least not that I am aware of. I seldom tilt and when I do I quit playing and go shoot some random people on GTA.
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04-15-2009 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gomery
Don't know what you mean by "standard lines"... Tried to google it but couldn't find anything useful.

I can assure you that it's not from tilting, at least not that I am aware of. I seldom tilt and when I do I quit playing and go shoot some random people on GTA.
standard line = what you ussually do in the same situation

Say, you raise pre-flop with AK UTG, BTN calls and you flop TPTK... your line here should be pretty standardized.
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04-15-2009 , 05:08 PM
Ok ty! With AK and TPTK on a dry flop I try to get it all-in, drawy flop I'll try to keep the pot small, of course depending on villain.

With draws in position I usually make a 2/3 bet on flop, check turn and r/f on river.

Pushing QQ+ pre, calling in LP with small PPs, SC, AXs and KTs+ if some one limped before me, if it's folded to me I raise those hands. Raising AJ+, TT+ from MP-LP. In UTG I only raise QQ+ and AK.

I recently noticed that I tend to overplay PP JJ both pre and post.

Last edited by Gomery; 04-15-2009 at 05:28 PM.
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04-15-2009 , 05:48 PM
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I recently noticed that I tend to overplay PP JJ both pre and post.
at 1c/2c on Poker Stars JJ = the nuts - 1 BB
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04-15-2009 , 07:19 PM
I was wondering if someone could give my graph/stats some analysis? This is mainly at 10NL.

Sorry for the small sample size, but it's all I have so far






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04-15-2009 , 09:21 PM
@ Freyjan:

- Your VPIP is waaaaaaay too high, try to tighten it up to about 11-14% until you're more comfortable postflop, generally something around 12/9 is going to be a solid starting point
- Also, try to play more positionally, you should play much tighter in EP and loosen up the closer you get to the button
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04-15-2009 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyPixel
@ Freyjan:

- Your VPIP is waaaaaaay too high, try to tighten it up to about 11-14% until you're more comfortable postflop, generally something around 12/9 is going to be a solid starting point
- Also, try to play more positionally, you should play much tighter in EP and loosen up the closer you get to the button
Thank you for the reply. It definitely reaffirms what I was thinking about my own game. I've been trying to lower my VPIP and I think I've done an OK job as of late, so we'll see a few thousand hands from now.


Any other input will also be greatly appreciated.
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04-16-2009 , 02:50 AM
Well you are winning quite a bit so I'd be careful. What is your All-In EV?
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04-16-2009 , 03:24 AM
I currenttly have a winrate of 7.28 bb/100 over 12k hands at NL4, according to PT3.
I know 12k hands is not a decent enough sample size, but is 7.28 bb/100 respectable or should I be beating this level for more?
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04-16-2009 , 03:39 AM
It may depend on the site. 7 bb/100 is certainly a decent rate at any level. People have beaten the lowest levels for higher rates, but they had been better served moving up.

And yes, 12k hands isn't a lot to accurately estimate your winrate. However, when your roll permits give the next level a try.
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04-17-2009 , 09:11 AM
Hi....I´m trying to post my stats and graphic for NL25, I think Im a very bad player, help!!! I dont know how to post the thumbnails here, so I posted the links.

http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rsvtrynl25.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=posionl25.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=graficol.jpg


Thank you for any comments
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04-17-2009 , 11:32 AM
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dont know how to post the thumbnails here, so I posted the links.

Thank you for any comments
You use [IMG] these tags [/IMG]
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04-17-2009 , 12:02 PM
Hey guys I am looking for some advice on my stats. It is over a fairly small sample (5K) hands but any insight would be appreciated.





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04-17-2009 , 12:14 PM
First time I've ever messed with images on here, so sorry if it doesn't work ... I think I may be leaking from the blinds? A few thousand hands ago I was probably about -.21, so maybe I've been stacked a few times and gotten unlucky, but I may be leaking obv. I've read mpethey's blinds post, and I think I play along the same guidelines. Anything else you guys see? Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks...





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04-17-2009 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by toltec444
Hi....I´m trying to post my stats and graphic for NL25, I think Im a very bad player, help!!! I dont know how to post the thumbnails here, so I posted the links.

http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rsvtrynl25.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=posionl25.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=graficol.jpg


Thank you for any comments
Here you go.







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04-17-2009 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by toltec444
Hi....I´m trying to post my stats and graphic for NL25, I think Im a very bad player, help!!! I dont know how to post the thumbnails here, so I posted the links.

http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rsvtrynl25.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=posionl25.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=graficol.jpg


Thank you for any comments
Just glancing through it I see a couple things.

1) I think you need to be 3betting more. Try restealing some and loosening
up your 3bet range but make sure you are aware of who you are 3betting.

2) Your VPIP should increase a lot more as you get closer to the button.
Try and get your LP VPIP up over 20% but keep you EP VPIP low.

3) Your attempt to steal is way to low. It needs to be closer to 30%.
This will help your LP VPIP as well.

4) You appear to be bleading from the blinds. I would raise a LP limper more
And try 3betting LP stealers lighter. Also almost EVERY single time its
folded to the SB and he completes raise ATC. Also stop completing so
much from the SB. Try folding or raising unless you have a good drawing
hand and their are a decent amount of limpers.
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04-17-2009 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BrandonAU
First time I've ever messed with images on here, so sorry if it doesn't work ... I think I may be leaking from the blinds? A few thousand hands ago I was probably about -.21, so maybe I've been stacked a few times and gotten unlucky, but I may be leaking obv. I've read mpethey's blinds post, and I think I play along the same guidelines. Anything else you guys see? Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks...





I am by no means a blind play expert so I will do my best.
Without seeing more it is hard to get a good picture of your blind play but from what I can tell I think you might be defending to much. I would move to a raise fold strategy and raise late position limpers. I think you may be calling raises to lightly from the blinds. I would start 3betting or folding the hands you dont want to 3bet. Could be wrong though.
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