[OFFICIAL] Stats and Graphs Analysis Thread - Page 195 - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

Assuming you're table selecting properly you can steal a lot wider than that. You get a fair few nits at this level that you can min raise the BTN and SB against relentlessly. If they show any resistance get out of their way unless you have a hand.

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10-31-2012 , 12:02 PM

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pool080

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 30

THX for reply @Csaba

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10-31-2012 , 03:20 PM

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couchpotato0

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 116

i'm sure this is something easy i'm missing but here goes... Played 10,000 hands of 2NLFR and 2NL zoom combined, and my
avg preflop allin Ev was 51.9%
avg flop allin Ev was 54.5%
avg turn allin Ev was 60 %

BUT my avg allin EV is 47.7%... i dont understand how the last ev can be less than the other 3 combined... or do these not connect the way i think they do ?

I'm not a big ev guy but i'm wondeing what mathematically i'm missing here////thx guys

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10-31-2012 , 06:00 PM

#4854

Dovidiu

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,419

Hi guys, Octomber is coming to an end and i need better results for Nov.

ANY kind of advice is more than welcomed. Thank you a lot and GL at the tables.

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11-07-2012 , 11:16 PM

#4855

Pazienza

centurion

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 124

Hey guys,

I started (october 25th) playing 5nl FR zoom to grind my roll back, and here are the results so far. I realised i need to fix my BB play ASAP, and i think redline from recent sessions is going the right way now, but interested in other things to improve. ty

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11-09-2012 , 01:21 PM

#4856

8fpath

enthusiast

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 62

Hi!

Played 40k full ring zoom hands (mix of 2nl and 5nl) and would like some feedback if I have any big leaks or something I should improve on.

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11-11-2012 , 09:41 AM

#4857

CoffeeSpoons

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 34

Help needed.

Here's 30k hands. Any help appreciated.

Spoons

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11-11-2012 , 10:26 AM

#4858

Cangurino

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 13,476

Is that 6-max?

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11-11-2012 , 11:04 AM

#4859

CoffeeSpoons

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 34

Yeah it's 6max. Too loose/spewy/stupid?

Spoons

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11-11-2012 , 11:12 AM

#4860

Cangurino

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 13,476

This is the full ring forum, so maybe not the best place for expertise on 6-max stats. Of course to us it looks to loose/spewy.

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11-11-2012 , 11:27 AM

#4861

CoffeeSpoons

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 34

Ah, my bad. I'll post it elsewhere.

Thanks.

Spoons

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11-14-2012 , 09:02 AM

#4862

ins2413

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2

Hello 2+2 ,

This is my first post. I will post sample from 10k hands on 0.02 -0.05 c$ on PS.
Hope for opinion about my game. Best Regards.

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11-19-2012 , 03:40 AM

#4863

Csaba

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,131

Obviously a small sample size but it looks like you could open up a lot more on the BTN.

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11-19-2012 , 04:01 AM

#4864

ToTcH

adept

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 980

How big should be the sample size for you guys to be able to analyze the stats?

I do not play a lot of hands and I understand that if the sample is too small graphs/stats aren't really relevant but I don't know when I'd be able to really use them to fix my leaks, even if I can see some bad habits on such a small number of hands.

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11-19-2012 , 05:14 AM

#4865

Cangurino

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 13,476

As stated earlier in this thread, the number of hands required for a significant sample depends on the stats you want to look at. For basic preflop stats, 500 hands may be enough. For winrate in 3-bet pots, 50,000 hands might not be enough.

It used to be a rule of thumb in this thread to require something like 10k-15k for an assessment. Some people ask for riduculously big samples, but I don't agree with them. As a winning microstakes player you should probably not play more than a few tens of thousands hands at a given level before moving up.

Short answer: 15k.

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11-19-2012 , 05:22 AM

#4866

ToTcH

adept

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 980

Thanks for your really clear answer

Appreciate it!

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11-20-2012 , 12:39 PM

#4867

BcuzItsSo

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 598

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Originally Posted by ins2413

Hello 2+2 ,

This is my first post. I will post sample from 10k hands on 0.02 -0.05 c$ on PS.
Hope for opinion about my game. Best Regards.

I'm not sure how you are doing it, but you're PFR from the button is less than your EP and MP PFRs. Try to play tighter when OOP and open up your game IP. Remember, position is power!

Also, take a look at your CO and BTN PFR% in an unopened pot. I think the stat is UO PFR%. Your CO should be 30-40% and BTN 40-50%, at a minimum.

Try to narrow the gap between your VPIP% and PFR%. Looks like you are cold calling a bit too much instead of 3betting or folding, or open limping(which you should NEVER do).

GL! Hope this helps.

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11-21-2012 , 01:57 PM

#4868

ins2413

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2

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Originally Posted by Csaba

Obviously a small sample size but it looks like you could open up a lot more on the BTN.

Thank you for advice! I know it's small sample. :/

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Originally Posted by BcuzItsSo

Yeah. I know this. It's one of my leaks - I am calling too much with suited connectors and small pair from CO and BTN (suited connectors - VPIP 77,78/ PFR 45,3 and Low pairs VPIP 76,2 PFR 36,4) and never limp with this in EP and MP... I am work on this. Thanks for help.
Also i think another leak in my game is SB and BB. And i don't know what to do - to be more aggressive and deffent more blinds or play more only premium hands?