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01-08-2012 , 07:20 AM
Just played this hand and im wondering if you would play it differently? would you have 3bet pre? i decided against it because i had position on the guy...
Do you think i should have bet the turn or was i right in trying to get to showdown?
His stats are 30/25

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (CO): $10.72
BTN: $13.48
SB: $3.79
BB: $10.67
UTG: $10.32
MP: $10.61

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has A K

UTG raises to $0.35, fold, Hero calls $0.35, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.85, 2 players) 9 5 4
UTG bets $0.65, Hero calls $0.65

Turn: ($2.15, 2 players) K
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.15, 2 players) 9
UTG bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60

Spoiler:
UTG shows 9 J (Three of a Kind, Nines) (Pre 37%, Flop 76%, Turn 11%)
Hero mucks A K (Two Pair, Kings and Nines) (Pre 63%, Flop 24%, Turn 89%)
UTG wins $5.09
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01-08-2012 , 07:23 AM
how manny hands you have on him?
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01-08-2012 , 07:42 AM
With or without position you should prob be 3bing most people with AK preflop...only reasons not to are to let a fish in a pot or maybe if youre super deep and you struggle post flop...or if youre vs a nit flatting AK is pretty fine too.
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01-08-2012 , 08:20 AM
Certainly 3bet majority of time
Pre, occasional flat is fine.

His stats point towards an aggressive nature, dependent on number of hands and so float on flop is questionable. How likely is he to slow down on blank turn? Any reads?

Once you connect it's reasonable to assume you're ahead unless you face heavy action.

I'd say betting on the turn is a good idea as it's hard for him to raise without the goods, and he may call with PP's plus a flush draw as well as KQ etc.

Small Value bet on river also if flush misses to catch the Kings an perhaps QQ. Fold to any raise on river obv.

That would be my line.
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01-08-2012 , 08:21 AM
Impossible to tell if you should 3bet without stats.
Fold the flop vs most people.
Bet the turn vs everyone.
River call is fine.
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01-08-2012 , 08:26 AM
pretty much what Q6s wrote.

also V's line is almost always value otr imo, but i don't mind calling given that we are at the top of our folding range
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01-08-2012 , 09:48 AM
do you have any stats on his fold to 3bet and cbet? I would 3bet pre more often than not but its really hard to say without those 2 stats.
Calling flop can be ok. Again we need some information about his flop tendencies. I would fold it in a vacuum though.
You gotta b/f the turn. He has you beat only a small % of the time and if he has he probably misplayed the hand as he should b/f or b/c everything that beats you on the turn imo. On the other hand you get value from alot of hands as stated above.
What do we beat on the river that is not a bluff? He should b/f the turn with Kx unless he is passive post flop and scared of the flush/sets. But then he wouldn't bet the river too. Our range has some 9x in it and he seems not too afraid of that. I would probably fold the river and tell no one. This is rarely a bluff and rarely anything worse than 9x imo. I don't think a call is +EV, it might be neutral EV at best
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01-08-2012 , 10:10 AM
You don't think, having checked the turn that he could bet with Kx??

I may even be tempted to value bet QQ as villain.
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01-08-2012 , 10:20 AM
His betting range is super wide otr and our hand is super underrepped
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01-08-2012 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Danshiel350
You don't think, having checked the turn that he could bet with Kx??

I may even be tempted to value bet QQ as villain.
I would b/f QQ and Kx on the turn almost always in villians shoes. Hero has very few K's in his range (maybe K9s and AK, but AK is a fold on the flop against most i guess). I understand its hard to get 3 streets of value with both Kx and QQ. So checking turn, b/f good rivers seems possible as well with both hands. But why should villian take the risk of a bad river card (for both his and our range) when he can get value on the turn from mid pp, 9x, Asx,...

I might be completely wrong here and maybe i'm just running bad in these spots recently and that makes me result oriented, but i don't see TT-QQ,Kx taking this line often at all.
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