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Spewy jam in 3-bet pot with top pair top kicker? Spewy jam in 3-bet pot with top pair top kicker?

02-24-2024 , 03:06 PM
PokerStars - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 189.45 BB
CO: 149.04 BB
Hero (BTN): 170.75 BB
SB: 60.79 BB
BB: 101.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 7.5 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 5 BB

Flop: (16.5 BB, 2 players) J 5 4
CO checks, Hero bets 7.84 BB, CO raises to 23.52 BB, Hero raises to 163.25 BB and is all-in, CO calls 118.02 BB and is all-in

Turn: (299.57 BB, 2 players) 3

River: (299.57 BB, 2 players) T

Players agreed to run it twice.

Turn #2: (299.57 BB, 2 players) A

River #2: (299.57 BB, 2 players) T

Was trying to think of hands that want to jam this flop to deny draws equity and my hand seems like the hand to do it. It blocks JJ (JJ is more likely to flat preflop then 4-bet since we're deep right?) and unblocks the diamond draw and heart backdoor flush draw. However, the downside is that if I'm up against a set I'm drawing pretty slim and he has less AJ. If I choose to jam KK or QQ in this spot I have better odds against a set and he has more AJ. AJ is more vulnerable to overcards than say KK which makes me more likely to jam that. Perhaps I shouldn't even have a jamming range because we're so deep, but I'd think I would want to when I hold 7 6. I don't think we are deep enough here to ever consider raising with JJ here no?

When holding AJs, AA, KK, QQ, and JJ, how often are you jamming vs flatting against this flop check/raise from a competent reg?
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02-24-2024 , 04:09 PM
fine for 100bb eff stack but prob too light to stack off for 150BB
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02-24-2024 , 05:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redwhirl
fine for 100bb eff stack but prob too light to stack off for 150BB
Would you have a raising range on this flop? If you did, what size would you choose?
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02-25-2024 , 08:50 AM
You can/should 3bet bigger ip when this deep

Same for flop cbet. I don't like 3bet jam, you fold out hands like KJ QJ, sure you deny some equity, but it's not like you'll pay of a stack when flush gets there. QQ are much nicer combo to jam ofc.
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02-25-2024 , 03:57 PM
I don't like stacking off here with AJ for so deep. In theory you can jam with some with KK, QQ, 54s, but also A5s no flush draw, A4 with or without flush draw since you can get called by any flush draw (any flush draw he raised should in theory either bet a combo draw or have at least one over to the jack).

In practice, I think villain shows up with 55, 44, 54s, 7d6d, 8d7d more often as they probably raise flush draws less than GTO. They also probably don't do this enough with AJ. So I would guess that if you did have JJ, 3betting the flop would probably be fine. Stack a lower set/2p before a diamond rolls off and sometimes get called by a draw.

Maybe play closer to GTO if villain has a high flop check raise % in 3bet pots. GTO in this spot would be like 21%. Most players just don't check raise flops enough.
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02-25-2024 , 04:18 PM
I would guess that this is signifigantly worse than calling.
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02-26-2024 , 08:14 PM
Yea you're too deep to jam, but not deep enough to 3bet.

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