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Some questions! Some questions!

03-30-2012 , 05:46 PM
1) On hem what does having negative/positive non-showdown winnings implie?

2) I play a similar volume of hands from the blinds as I so with cut off and OTB (6max 25nl), is this good or bad?, I have - 19.68bb/100 (ev-17) in the small blind and -5.6bb/100 (ev+1.33) in the big blinds.

3) How should i adjust my 3bet range in regards to the looseness/tightness of the raising villian?

Thanks in advance for any answers!
03-30-2012 , 09:41 PM
where to start......

To much to go into but I'm sure you'll get some general advice.

My advice would be, read the stickies in here and memorable strat threads in the full ring forum, join a poker training site like Deuces Cracked or Cardrunners and post hands you weren't sure about here.
03-30-2012 , 10:01 PM
Point 2:
@6max over a very small sample my VPIP 16 big blind and 36 on the button. If you are playing just as many hands in the blinds as the button then you are probably making a huge mistake...

What samplesize is this over btw as I just noticed your EVbb100 in the bb is +1, which is way too high..
03-30-2012 , 11:46 PM
1. Negative non- showdown lines just means you lose money when you do not go to showdown. Most standard TAG players have this. So you fold a lot before the cards get turned over, usually on the flop or turn. Being more aggressive will see an increase in non showdown winnings as more folds from opponents means you win pots at non showdown.
A LAG who reads opponents wells and makes bluffs or is aggressive before showdown will have a positive non showdown winnings, as they win their money on the flop, turn or river. This however usually means they will have a bad showdown line, as when they get looked up they do not have the goods.


2. You simply defend waaaay too much from the blinds. The CO and BTN you play more hands as you are in position and can steal blinds/ play hands in position. The SB and BB you should have the tightest range, as your stats stay, you are burning money in these positions. I assume because you have J3 suited and 3 callers to a raise and feel you are priced. See the blind money as dead money, it is not yours and therefore calling raises out of position is bad with marginal hands.

3. Now this one I am unsure so correct me if I am wrong. 3 betting is all situational. If a tight player raises UTG then obviously 3 betting with a bad hand is not a winning play. However if a tight player raises the BTN then 3 betting him from the blinds is a good way to defend rather than flatting. As they will fold a higher% of the time or to pressure on the flop.

A looser player I would usually 3 bet more in position and usually tighter, as they never fold.
03-31-2012 , 03:09 AM
Thanks guys, thats pretty much answered my questions, from the blinds what would be a general guide in terms of negative expectation -bb/100, i know there is many variables but just looking for some general guides.
03-31-2012 , 10:00 AM
Anything over -100bb100 in the Bb and -50bb100 sb is okay. If we aim to Breakeven here, win a little utg+mp and play most pots from co/btn and crush from there we can't be making too many mistakes. Position is power
03-31-2012 , 06:28 PM
As someone else said see the blind money as dead money, not your money. When you see MP open and two guys call and you're sitting on bb with a hand like A6o or w/e think about whether that hand is going to be profitable if played out calling 1000 times here. Think about the kind of situations you are going to be in. Fairly often, when you hit an ace an opponent will have a better kicker and you will lose a small/medium sized pot. Or he could have a good draw and if he plays it aggressively will be able to bluff you off your weak TP. On the other hand when you hit an ace and no one else has one or anything better it's going to be hard to get value. On top of all this you will be out of position postflop which will hurt your ability to get value and allow your opponent to make better decisions. These are known as reverse implied odds situations. I think a normal fold rate from the blinds for a reg is 80+%. This will change slightly depending on who the original raiser is, where they are raising from, what your image is like at that table etc. But generally you should stick to defending a strong range from the blinds.
04-03-2012 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by IvanD
As someone else said see the blind money as dead money, not your money. When you see MP open and two guys call and you're sitting on bb with a hand like A6o or w/e think about whether that hand is going to be profitable if played out calling 1000 times here. Think about the kind of situations you are going to be in. Fairly often, when you hit an ace an opponent will have a better kicker and you will lose a small/medium sized pot. Or he could have a good draw and if he plays it aggressively will be able to bluff you off your weak TP. On the other hand when you hit an ace and no one else has one or anything better it's going to be hard to get value. On top of all this you will be out of position postflop which will hurt your ability to get value and allow your opponent to make better decisions. These are known as reverse implied odds situations. I think a normal fold rate from the blinds for a reg is 80+%. This will change slightly depending on who the original raiser is, where they are raising from, what your image is like at that table etc. But generally you should stick to defending a strong range from the blinds.
Yeah good advice, I see what your saying.
04-03-2012 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by GLifUlose
Anything over -100bb100 in the Bb and -50bb100 sb is okay. If we aim to Breakeven here, win a little utg+mp and play most pots from co/btn and crush from there we can't be making too many mistakes. Position is power
If I'm losing over -100bb/100 in the Bb and -50bb/100 sb how am I aiming to break even, is that not losing a ton of money or am I not getting what you're saying.
04-03-2012 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by spidermail
If I'm losing over -100bb/100 in the Bb and -50bb/100 sb how am I aiming to break even, is that not losing a ton of money or am I not getting what you're saying.
Your not getting what he is saying. Look at the blinds SB+BB as the price of playing all 6 hands at the table not just those 2 hands. Its not your money its the tables money, this is the cost you pay to stay in the game. But look at playing each hand from the SB as its costing IDK.. 3x what you are actually paying cause you are OOP 100% of the time, and the BB as every dollar you put in the pot as 2x the cost.

Everyone well almost Everyone has a losing record in the SB and BB, if you are losing that much though, you are playing WAY to many hands. You need to take a stronger range to the flop as a call, and 3betting relentlessly vs the CO and BTN as bluffs and for value.
04-03-2012 , 09:42 AM
Think about it even if you just fold EVERY hand including AA when you are in the blinds you are only losing 16bb's/100 in the BB and 8bbs/100 in the SB in a 6max game.
04-03-2012 , 10:01 AM
Try using the search feature for questions like these. They have been covered in many previous threads.
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