So villain was 79/50/3.3/ 35 hands. And dbetting 67% and c/r 33% on the flop. He was the type who could call you down light. He was a little bit laggish and sloppy in some spots.

Party Poker No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 25432
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Hero (BTN/SB): $1500.00
BB: $1500.00

Pre Flop: ($45.00) Hero is BTN/SB with K Q
Hero raises to $90, BB calls $60

Flop: ($180.00) T J 2 (2 players)
BB bets $120.00, Hero calls $120

Turn: ($420.00) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $230.00, Hero calls $230

River: ($880.00) K (2 players)
BB bets $300.00, Hero raises to $750, BB calls $450

Raise flop

call river

^^^^THIS^^^^

OK, if I raise flop then he will call w J and probably a T and all the bluffs will fold mostly. Now he was bluffy and somewhat tarded, so his range certainly contains air. I want to make my hand first and raise then, if that makes sense. I am like 52/48 vs J or T here.
If he calls flop raise and the turn is a blank. Lets assume I raised to 360 on the flop and he called. The pot will be 900 and he would have 1050 left.
Do you bet or check if it is checked to you?


EDIT: River I raised because he has a lot of J hands that can give me value(he called light in some spots) and he could get tilted when I raise and he was bluffing or W/e.

raising flop is good because it has a ton of fold equity, and if we get shoved on we have an easy call because our hand plays really well even against most of his shoving range here. this draw is huge, you have 8 outs to the absolute nuts on a rainbow board, plus overs to boot.

as for your comment about making your hand first.. i think if you're going to play the 110s, you can't be afraid to raise (and shove) with draws, because more often than not you're going to miss your draws, so every bit of fold equity helps.

depending on his action, i'll probably shove. we've represented massive strength, and still have a good chance of catching up even if he has us beat already. i find it unlikely that he has a jack in his hand, as most jacks he could be holding (J9+) probably shoves the flop. i honestly can't see him calling a shove on the turn with just a ten. i also think this scenario (him calling our flop raise and the turn bricking) is the least likely, so i wouldnt worry too much about it.

anyway umm, as played, i agree with the first reply, just call and dont raise the river.

Thanks for the interesting reply pejpej. The thing is that I thought his range contains alot of bluffs. I had seen him dbet me like 3 or 4 times before in that match and thought his range is weak. If I raise then I would make most of his range(air) to fold. He was a bit sloppy and overagro. So I think calling down is fine there as well raising the flop. I that hand I decided to play it slow and let him be agro. Can't be result oriented but villain turned up w K6.

This is going to be a problem Heads-up

If you're raising river, raise more.

It's partypoker, so I assume the 110s play like most other sites 22-33s.

If he's that loose and stationy, a raise on the river might be the best play but stacks kind of stuck for a small raise bc his small but stronger part of his range that beats you will shove over sometimes and I don't think you're going to want to raise fold with these stacks here vs such a villain.

i agree

Yeah about the PartyPoker, it's actually stars. My HEM is a bit messed up.. But yeah villain was a donk who could have called it light. Raising ai was prolly better there tho.

semu, what would you have done if the river was a blank like 4d and villain would have bet the same amount or a bit more !!??

I would have folded for sure. Can't get him off a hand because the pot is too big for him to fold now. Also when he checks on the river on a blank, I'm not firing.

raise the flop to commit yourself, river raise is very good, ignore the nits

So you say his range has a lots of bluffs, aginst which you may or may not be ahead. Not to mention, you are arguing that he double barrels a ton. With K high, you want to fold out his bluffs asap, especially if he is going to keep on firing. If you had a set or TJ here, then you can argue calling down.

Why would you want villain to fold his bluff range?

I think its actually played fine...raising flop is of course a good alternative, the only downside is if he actually threebarrels and you dont hit anything you end up losing the hand. But most bluffers give up after 1 or 2 streets so this is a concern but only a minor one and offset by the huge value you gain when you hit one of your 14 improvers.

Partypoker by no means is the fishtank it was in say 2004. I´m not aware of any site where the skill level is hugely different from another one, even not FT that has formed an alliance with cardrunners.

agree with this, but if you are not going to call him down here with K high, if the board bricks off and he 3 barrels then just get it in on flop,

How ofteh is he betting turn after river after donking flop. I mean if hes 3 barreling 100% of his range I dont mind call,call shove every river.

I am talking husngs only and I disagree with you on that.

Partypoker - Used to charge 2x the rake % that most poker sites charge. If they still do, this would mean there would be very little "good regulars" bc it's just not worth it to pay 2x the rake for husngs. This would mean softer competition. Also, the fact that so many of the US husng grinders could not play on that site makes for an overall fishier playerbase.

Other sites like Bodog, Cake, FTP and Stars have differed greatly in terms of skill levels over the last year or two. While FTP and Stars may be becoming indistinguishable I would be willing to bet that the 100 dollar games on Bodog are even softer than on Stars or FTP. They do come with their disadvantages, Bodog has had problems with cashouts, offers a sportsbook that may tempt some grinders and they only allow 3 tables at once, with a max buyin for husngs at 100 dollars.

Throw in no rakeback at Stars (or low rb % if you talk VIP levels pre supernova) compared to relatively high rakeback at some Euro sites, big deposit bonuses and huge differences in the playerbase of the husngs from site to site, and I think you do have major differences and a lot of things to consider when choosing which site you play at and what types of skill levels you can expect at different levels.

Hmmm...FT and Stars should be full of these decent US semi-grinders, but the $100 sng´s I play on FT are pretty soft overall and have gotten softer rather than tougher the last 12 months I´d say.

I don´t think there is a big difference in Idiot Fish to decent players ratio in any group of players, be they American, English or Russian. On further thought I´ll make one exception for that: the French are almost universally super bad, as are Germans playing during hours where there´s a decent likelihood that they are drunk.

Smooth call the whole way. He could easily have trip 2s here. If you raise flop, be prepared to get it all in on flop or turn, because you don't have many other options if he calls or re raises your flop raise.

Smooth calling gives you the most options on both the turn and the river. I don't like your river raise at all. What do you do if he shoves, instafold (or time down, call and pray)?

I like raising raising the river also. If you are not counting your kings as outs then why continue with the hand.